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#1. Re: [E36M3] BEGI M3 Turbo (Was "I thought I'd Pass this on") - from Ron Katona
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:48:12 -0400 From: "Ron Katona" <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BEGI M3 Turbo (Was "I thought I'd Pass this on") Reid Conti wrote: > FWIW, Garett Lim is known as the best for VW/Audi chips. Everyone reveres > him. Private customers can rent him out to create custom chips for a > steep fee, but he's very hard to get ahold of as he's in high > demand. Obviously I can't comment on his BMW experience, but he has a > very good reputation for being thorough and knowledgeable. I don't think > he'd do a half-assed job on any kind of car. I had a Garrett Lim chip in my '97 318ti. Garrett installed the chip himself along with three others on 318ti's back in 1998. At that time he was the only option for OBD-II chips for that car. I never had any trouble reaching Garrett back then... but his business and reputation have grown quite a bit since that time and I haven't tried to reach him lately. In any case, he's a nice guy, very smart (he was finishing medical school at the time) and the chips were great. I never dyno'd my car, but two of the others did and saw gains of about 12 hp at the rear wheels (138 stock at the flywheel, so that's very significant from a chip alone on an OBD-II motor). No check engine lights, excessive knock, blown motors, etc. -- Ron Katona
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#2. Re: Yok Pressures - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 17:06:26 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Yok Pressures on 10/10/01 4:48 PM, Chad Armstrong <caarmstrong@epicor.com> wrote: > Do not let A032R's run about 31#'s hot! Start with them at 25-26 cold and > let them heat up to 29-30hot. I know it sounds funny but anything about 31 > and they are grease! > Chad Armstrong > 99 M3 > 85 911 Race Car Yok's for Practice and Hoosiers for Race. I thought you were nuts until I read your sig (of course that doesn't mean you aren't still nuts!). I'm assuming your 31 psi hot is for the 911, with whatever size you run on it. Trust me, if you try that with the 235/40-17 size on an M3, you'll be running on the sidewalls. Neil 96 M3
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#3. Yok Pressures - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 18:17:58 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Yok Pressures Chad writes > > Do not let A032R's run about 31#'s hot! Start with them at 25-26 cold and > let them heat up to 29-30hot. I know it sounds funny but anything about 31 > and they are grease! I recently was at Mid-Ohio where I had about 36 front and 34 rear. Immediately after the session, they were at 42 front and 40 rear. I have heard this is about the highest you typically want them to get. I had no problems with them getting greasy although ambient temperatures were about 60 degrees and the track remained cool so this may have helped. Rich 95 M3 - stock suspension with A032Rs for the track
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#4. Yoko A032R - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:35:55 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Yoko A032R I'm with Rob Jackowitz and Neil Maller. I look for temps in the tires when they are hot about 5 minutes after coming off the track (takes that long to slowly drive around the paddock to cool brakes and then park). As the day goes on and the day warms up I have to bleed a little more off to keep them where I like them, 38-40. Usually about 1 pound more in front. I'm aiming for 38-40 hot on both front and rear and from that I incidentally find out what cold would be. Of course during the course of the day the cold temps will be ambient temps that begin at 60F and sometimes get up to 90-100F ambient (Valleys of CA..Buttonwillow and Willow Springs). So I sometimes am starting cold around 32-33. Sometimes more. Of course we are all using our own tire pressure gauges and haven't calibrated them to each other. This is what I use on my 95M3LTW with H and R, RD sport sways, KMAC camber plates, Koni single adjustable shocks on Fikse FM5 17x8.5 rims. Regards, Marc 95M3CSL
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: Inability to Dyno E46 M3's - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:50:25 -0700 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Inability to Dyno E46 M3's Have you all seen the latest issue of (I think) Car & Driver? The article talks about how they were unable to dyno an E46 M3 and called Steve Dinan to ask him why. Read the little blurb at the dyno stuff in the article about if premium unleaded gasoline is worth using. I guess they should have called a different tuner! Rob -----Original Message----- From: Josh [mailto:eurosprt@xmission.com] The E46 M3 can be dyno tested, but you must first perform a series of steps to prevent the vehicle from going into a less than stock default rev limit mode. In order to test the car you must first switch the car on and hold down the traction control button for 10 sec. You then start the car and do a dyno run up to the 6500rpm rev limit. You then turn off the car and switch it back on and hold down the traction control button for 10 sec. Without cycling the ignition key you start the car and do your dyno test. As long as you don't turn the car off you can continue to do runs and will only be limited by how much cooling you have at the dyno. BTW The performance of the Motorsport engine in the new M3 is absolutely phenomenal. When you compare it to a US E36 M3 there really isn't a comparison. When I get a chance I will post the dyno comparison of the E36 to E46 M3 to my website. My car ended up putting out an estimated 346hp at the crank. Josh Eurosport (801) 886 2185 www.eurosporthighperformance.com At 02:37 PM 10/2/2001 -0500, you wrote: >-------------------- 10 -------------------- >Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 12:20:38 -0700 >From: Chad Armstrong <caarmstrong@epicor.com> >Subject: Inability to Dyno E46 M3's > >Hey All, > >I have heard a rumor and would like to hear from all of you about it >validity. I have heard that you cannot dyno an E46 M3. Ok, here's what >happens...the car senses that if the back wheels start turning at a much >higher rate than the front wheels at 6500rpm the computer kicks something >like a rev-limiter. So in turn you cannot find out peakHP on a Dyno. So >has anyone actually dynoed an e46 M3 that could either validate or kill this >rumor? > >If it is true then it make me wonder what BMW is trying to hide. Also if >true will the "chip" tuners be able to take out this feature. > >Thanks, >Chad Armstrong >99 M3 Confortied and Eibached. >85 911 Race Car...too much to list ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#6. Re: Sustained high speeds - from Gleb Arshinov
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 16:53:27 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <gleb@barsook.com> Subject: Re: Sustained high speeds >>>>> "Reid" == Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> writes: Reid> I'm thinking I probably wouldn't cruise faster than 120 or Reid> so.. Bring oil. Wouldn't be surprised to see a quart/500miles or worse at sustained 120mph. Gleb
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#7. Throttle Body paradox - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 21:29:00 -0500 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: Throttle Body paradox OK, I have heard people say that a high flow throttle body might get me faster throttle response but not any more hp (even on a '95 that already has the CAIS and HFM and chip mods). This includes Jim C. who I quote below from one of his usenet posts. It's not that I don't believe them, but I would like a plausible explanation. The stock throttle body has a 64mm (2.52") internal diameter versus the high flow Dinan version at 67.3mm (2.65"). While this doesn't seem like much it's more than a 10% increase in area. More importantly, the throttle body at 2.5" is by far (correct me if I'm wrong) the smallest piece in the entire intake path all the way from the filter to the engine and thus by definition the bottle neck. Yet, it's commonly accepted wisdom that replacing the stock 3" HFM w/ a 3.5" version produces significant power gains. Finally, I wonder if the small throttle body is not a problem then why does the euro motor have 6 of them? If anyone could clarify any of these points I would be much obliged as I currently have an opportunity to buy one of these big throttle bodies used at 1/2 price. Thanks, Michael Stembera From: <http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&q=author:lndshrk%40xmission.com+> Jim Conforti ( <mailto:lndshrk%40xmission.com> lndshrk@xmission.com) Subject: Re: Jim Chip vs Dinan chip Newsgroups: <http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&group=alt.autos.bmw> alt.autos.bmw Date: 1998/07/08 .... "Some people RESPECT my attitude.. of course, I've saved a lot of them from buying things that don't work.. like throttle bodies and fuel pressure regulators and a mile long list of crap that a lot of "experts" are trying to sell you.." ....
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Sustained high speeds - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:31:05 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sustained high speeds 135mph can be sustained for at least 45-50 minutes, with no ill effects. This information was supplied to ME by a very reliable source : ) Chris T 97 M3 At 01:58 PM 10/10/01 -0500, Robert S. Hatrak II wrote: >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 11:50:16 -0700 >From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sustained high speeds > >150mph can be sustained for at least 15-20 minutes, with no ill effects. Or >so I *hear* it can be done. : ) > >Rob > >-----Original Message----- >From: Reid Conti [mailto:reid@conti.net] >Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2001 10:59 AM >To: E36M3 >Subject: [E36M3] Sustained high speeds > > >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT) >From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> >Subject: Sustained high speeds > >I plan on taking trip of about 1500 miles in the near future, where I >won't have to worry about my speed too much. So I'm wondering, what >should I hold my speed to? I imagine it would be bad to keep the engine >at, say, 6000rpm for a long time, but what's a safe engine speed here? Is >it really hard on the engine to run at 5000rpm for a long time, versus say >3000rpm? Or should it really not impact engine life if the car's in good >shape? > >I plan to have my fluids changed, newish tires, monitor my tire pressues, >coolant level/temp, oil level, get my water pump swapped for one with a >metal impeller, thermostat changed out.. Anything else I should watch out >for? Or is this just not a good idea in general? I'm thinking I probably >wouldn't cruise faster than 120 or so.. > >thanks for any advice.. this is on a 95 (S50 engine). > >- reid > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* > > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >*************************************************************
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#9. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Factory Alignment Specs - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:39:54 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Factory Alignment Specs At 12:58 PM 10/10/01 -0500, JUSTIN GERRY wrote: >Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 13:49:40 -0400 >From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> >Subject: E36 M3 Factory Alignment Specs > >Subject header asks it all, what are the alignment specs for a '97 M3, >including camber, toe-in etc. > >Many thanks, >Justin Justin, According to the printout from the alignment I did last weekend they are as follows: For a 97 M3 coupe: Front (First number is min and the second number is max stock specifications) Caster 6.13 to 7.13 degrees Camber -1.42 to -0.42 degrees (not adjustable) Toe Left 0.05 to 0.12 degrees Toe Right 0.05 to 0.12 degrees Toe Total 0.09 to 0.25 degrees Rear Camber -2.00 to -1.50 degrees Toe Left 0.21 to 0.29 degrees Toe Right 0.21 to 0.29 degrees Toe Total 0.42 to 0.58 degrees Hope this helps, Chris T. 97 M3
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#10. Re: [E36M3] BEGI M3 Turbo (Was "I thought I'd Pass this on") - from Aleksandr Milewski
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Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 20:34:01 -0700 From: Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewski.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BEGI M3 Turbo (Was "I thought I'd Pass this on") At 2:08 PM -0500 on 10/10/01, Matt Henson commanded the electrons to create a missive titled "Re: [E36M3] BEGI M3 Turbo (Was "I thought I'd Pass this": |So, yea, I guess I could see it |working but I'd seriously doubt that it would get |within 5% of a properly tuned setup. Agreed. For the same boost level I think the margin is more like 10%. And that's consistent with Corky's work on Miatas (with which I'm more familiar). The BEGI kits (which use the rising rate AFPR method) make less power than the FM kits with a custom ECU. -Zandr -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Aleksandr Milewski N6MOD n6mod@milewski.org http://www.milewski.org/