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#1. RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR - from Matt Malfa
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:19:40 -0400
From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com>
Subject: RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR

Hey Steve,

If you notice Chris's very last comment, then you shouldn't be
surprised that he's already here among us ;-)

Chris, let me see if I recall the progression of your car correctly:
Started life as an M3/4 Auto, then you did the 5 speed conversion,
added S/C (Dinan?), then 6 speed upgrade, and a whole bunch of other
mods along the way (LTW CF trim, big brakes, lower gearing, etc.).
Care to give us the greatest hits on the fastest grocery-getter in
Highland Park?

- -Matt
I guess your M5 is nice too, if you like that sort of thing.... <g>

---- Original Message ----
From: SHazard@nhboston.com
To: e36m3@bmw-m.net, 
Subject: RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:58:54 -0500

>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:08:17 -0400
>From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com>
>Subject: WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
>
>This was posted on The Garage board! One hell of a car! THe cost 
>must be
>through the roof :-)
>
>
>
>
>Message: 2
>   Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:02:07 -0500
>   From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <chrisjnk@ix.netcom.com>
>Subject: 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
>
>
>ACS completed the transformation from the S62 V8 to the V12 LMR last
>July.
>
>Here is a summary of the 00 M5 conversion:
>
>The 2000 M5 transformation was a major project at AC Schnitzer with 
>BMW
>AG Motorsport partnering and providing major cooperation. It could 
>not
>have been done with out BMW AG Motorsport's assistance.
>
>The transaction from BMW AG Motorsport to ACS was handled as a
>technology transfer.
>
>Installed was the V12 LMR engine provided by BMW AG. The engine is 
>6.1
>liter's, developing 600 hp and 595 ft. lbs. of torque. Red line is 
>9,500
>rpm. Top speed is programmable, and is set to match up with
>whatever set of speed rated tires I'm running. Currently set at 187 
>mph
>to
>match up with Bridgestone SO-3 PP tires for the street. The V12 LMR
>engine
>is a hand built and blue printed engine. A really neat work of design
>and
>engineering that has proven in its reliability, both on the track 
>and in
>the McLaren F1 GTR and the street edition.
>
>The M5 chassis was strengthened and stiffened. ACS did a complete 
>change
>out of the suspension system, including a redesign of the geometry. 
>The
>braking system utilizes the new Porsche performance braking system at
>all four corners with composite ceramic rotors.
>
>The drive train uses the new and improved SMG II sequential shifter
>(6-speed transmission) with up/down paddles on each side of the 
>steering
>wheel. The shifting was incredibly quick on the track at Hockinheim 
>and
>includes launch control.
>
>A Quaife diff with 75% LSD was specified and installed for quick and
>sure traction in gears 1 through 4.
>
>Custom carbon fiber and Kevlar aerodynamics are used to provide 
>superior
>down force and improved traction and handling in corners and on the
>straights. Under body carbon fiber and Kevlar panels are also used to
>help create a vacuum under the car to assist in holding the car to 
>the
>road at speed. Road hugging is what it feels like. There was a
>considerable amount of time in a wind tunnel perfecting the
>aerodynamics.
>
>Typical Schnitzer black and red suede interior, with new Recaro
>seats being recovered to match. I opted for the BMW red Carbon fiber
>trim that glitters and sparkles when the sun shines on it. Same BMW
>carbon fiber I have in my M3. The BMW paint color is anthracite.
>
>On the front hood, Jenny Holzer contributed and executed in silver, 
>her
>signature artwork and design of "PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT." Jenny
>also signed her design.
>
>The BMW sedan is co branded M5 and ACS V12. USA, Illinois plate is 
>WOW
>WEE.
>
>Bill Auberlin was my instructor at Hockinheim; we had about five 
>hours a
>day on the track for four days. Bill is currently a LMR driver in 
>ALMS
>racing and was an E36 M3 driver with PTG.
>
>The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph 
>and
>8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The 
>timings
>were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle
>driver
>and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport.
>
>Although these are typical US straight line drag times, the handling 
>on
>the track had eye popping exit speeds out of the corners, with well
>balanced and highly predictable handling into the turns and the 
>exits.
>The BMW M5 ACS V12 suspension system set up, established
>It's self with stunning performance and handling in rotating thru the
>corners at speed on the track at Hockinheim.
>
>Hockenheim is not set up for straight-line timings, so we had to
>improvise. A portable electronic system of start/end was initially 
>set
>up, but too many other cars on the track interfered with the trigger
>lights. As we had picked up a caravan of bikes, VW's, MB and Porsches
>and Ferrari's all attempting to run with the M5 sedan.
>
>The timings were then done manually with a stopwatch, not the most
>accurate for the 1/4-mile timings. The shorter 0-60 mph runs were a
>more accurate and consistent as it was more of a controlled event.
>There had been some ongoing, general disagreement among the
>Drivers and engineers regarding the quarter mile timings.
>
>The timings are not presented here as a definitive set of performance
>measurement data for publishing, but rather as a good and acceptable
>measurement of performance for our internal goals and metrics that
>we had established going into the conversion project.
>
>During our early discussions in the spring of 2000, when it was
>mentioned that the base "V12 LMR was 700 hp."  I had requested
>if it was possible for more then 600 hp in the M5 and Herr Dieter 
>Lamb,
>principle
>of ACS, smiles, laughs and tells me "600 hp is plenty fast enough for
>the
>M5 sedan, you will see"
>
>During the four days at Hockinheim, not one other car on the track 
>was
>able to out perform the M5, anywhere on the track. Every time a new 
>and
>fresh car appeared to challenge, we had a scramble as to who would 
>drive
>and take it on to help us gauge and determine our competitive
>performance results and standing.
>
>We have two Performance car dealers in town and I get to see a range 
>of
>Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lotus's. Last fall on the road, I
>did have the opportunity to embarrass several high price performance
>cars and drivers, who had no clue about the set up of the M5 "sedan".
>
>Currently, my clutch is being replaced for the 2nd time at Knauz BMW.
>The SMG 2 Launch control function is awfully had on my clutch. Too 
>many
>fookin demonstrations.
>The US version will not have the launch control function.
>
>The M5 was returned back to the US as a special interest category,
>limited to 1,500 miles annually.
>BMW AG took forever to provide the necessary documentation for 
>Customs
>and EPA for emissions testing, until I hired a Lawyer in Munich to 
>get
>it done. This past September my M5 passed US Emissions testing in
>Illinois. Although I had to down load the appropriate software to 
>get it
>done and then download the performance software after testing.
>
>All said and done I have a special bonding with my 97 M3/4.
>
>
>
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#2. RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 09:32:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR

How do you have a Quaiffe and a LSD at the same time?

Chester

--- Matt Malfa <matt@shortshifter.com> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 12:19:40 -0400
> From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com>
> Subject: RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
> 
> Hey Steve,
> 
> If you notice Chris's very last comment, then you shouldn't be
> surprised that he's already here among us ;-)
> 
> Chris, let me see if I recall the progression of your car correctly:
> Started life as an M3/4 Auto, then you did the 5 speed conversion,
> added S/C (Dinan?), then 6 speed upgrade, and a whole bunch of other
> mods along the way (LTW CF trim, big brakes, lower gearing, etc.).
> Care to give us the greatest hits on the fastest grocery-getter in
> Highland Park?
> 
> - -Matt
> I guess your M5 is nice too, if you like that sort of thing.... <g>
> 
> ---- Original Message ----
> From: SHazard@nhboston.com
> To: e36m3@bmw-m.net, 
> Subject: RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:58:54 -0500
> 
> >Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:08:17 -0400
> >From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com>
> >Subject: WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
> >
> >This was posted on The Garage board! One hell of a car! THe cost 
> >must be
> >through the roof :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Message: 2
> >   Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:02:07 -0500
> >   From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <chrisjnk@ix.netcom.com>
> >Subject: 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
> >
> >
> >ACS completed the transformation from the S62 V8 to the V12 LMR last
> >July.
> >
> >Here is a summary of the 00 M5 conversion:
> >
> >The 2000 M5 transformation was a major project at AC Schnitzer with 
> >BMW
> >AG Motorsport partnering and providing major cooperation. It could 
> >not
> >have been done with out BMW AG Motorsport's assistance.
> >
> >The transaction from BMW AG Motorsport to ACS was handled as a
> >technology transfer.
> >
> >Installed was the V12 LMR engine provided by BMW AG. The engine is 
> >6.1
> >liter's, developing 600 hp and 595 ft. lbs. of torque. Red line is 
> >9,500
> >rpm. Top speed is programmable, and is set to match up with
> >whatever set of speed rated tires I'm running. Currently set at 187 
> >mph
> >to
> >match up with Bridgestone SO-3 PP tires for the street. The V12 LMR
> >engine
> >is a hand built and blue printed engine. A really neat work of design
> >and
> >engineering that has proven in its reliability, both on the track 
> >and in
> >the McLaren F1 GTR and the street edition.
> >
> >The M5 chassis was strengthened and stiffened. ACS did a complete 
> >change
> >out of the suspension system, including a redesign of the geometry. 
> >The
> >braking system utilizes the new Porsche performance braking system at
> >all four corners with composite ceramic rotors.
> >
> >The drive train uses the new and improved SMG II sequential shifter
> >(6-speed transmission) with up/down paddles on each side of the 
> >steering
> >wheel. The shifting was incredibly quick on the track at Hockinheim 
> >and
> >includes launch control.
> >
> >A Quaife diff with 75% LSD was specified and installed for quick and
> >sure traction in gears 1 through 4.
> >
> >Custom carbon fiber and Kevlar aerodynamics are used to provide 
> >superior
> >down force and improved traction and handling in corners and on the
> >straights. Under body carbon fiber and Kevlar panels are also used to
> >help create a vacuum under the car to assist in holding the car to 
> >the
> >road at speed. Road hugging is what it feels like. There was a
> >considerable amount of time in a wind tunnel perfecting the
> >aerodynamics.
> >
> >Typical Schnitzer black and red suede interior, with new Recaro
> >seats being recovered to match. I opted for the BMW red Carbon fiber
> >trim that glitters and sparkles when the sun shines on it. Same BMW
> >carbon fiber I have in my M3. The BMW paint color is anthracite.
> >
> >On the front hood, Jenny Holzer contributed and executed in silver, 
> >her
> >signature artwork and design of "PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT." Jenny
> >also signed her design.
> >
> >The BMW sedan is co branded M5 and ACS V12. USA, Illinois plate is 
> >WOW
> >WEE.
> >
> >Bill Auberlin was my instructor at Hockinheim; we had about five 
> >hours a
> >day on the track for four days. Bill is currently a LMR driver in 
> >ALMS
> >racing and was an E36 M3 driver with PTG.
> >
> >The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph 
> >and
> >8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The 
> >timings
> >were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle
> >driver
> >and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport.
> >
> >Although these are typical US straight line drag times, the handling 
> >on
> >the track had eye popping exit speeds out of the corners, with well
> >balanced and highly predictable handling into the turns and the 
> >exits.
> >The BMW M5 ACS V12 suspension system set up, established
> >It's self with stunning performance and handling in rotating thru the
> >corners at speed on the track at Hockinheim.
> >
> >Hockenheim is not set up for straight-line timings, so we had to
> >improvise. A portable electronic system of start/end was initially 
> >set
> >up, but too many other cars on the track interfered with the trigger
> >lights. As we had picked up a caravan of bikes, VW's, MB and Porsches
> >and Ferrari's all attempting to run with the M5 sedan.
> >
> >The timings were then done manually with a stopwatch, not the most
> >accurate for the 1/4-mile timings. The shorter 0-60 mph runs were a
> >more accurate and consistent as it was more of a controlled event.
> >There had been some ongoing, general disagreement among the
> >Drivers and engineers regarding the quarter mile timings.
> >
> >The timings are not presented here as a definitive set of performance
> >measurement data for publishing, but rather as a good and acceptable
> >measurement of performance for our internal goals and metrics that
> >we had established going into the conversion project.
> >
> >During our early discussions in the spring of 2000, when it was
> >mentioned that the base "V12 LMR was 700 hp."  I had requested
> >if it was possible for more then 600 hp in the M5 and Herr Dieter 
> >Lamb,
> >principle
> >of ACS, smiles, laughs and tells me "600 hp is plenty fast enough for
> >the
> >M5 sedan, you will see"
> >
> >During the four days at Hockinheim, not one other car on the track 
> >was
> >able to out perform the M5, anywhere on the track. Every time a new 
> >and
> >fresh car appeared to challenge, we had a scramble as to who would 
> >drive
> >and take it on to help us gauge and determine our competitive
> >performance results and standing.
> >
> >We have two Performance car dealers in town and I get to see a range 
> >of
> >Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lotus's. Last fall on the road, I
> >did have the opportunity to embarrass several high price performance
> >cars and drivers, who had no clue about the set up of the M5 "sedan".
> >
> >Currently, my clutch is being replaced for the 2nd time at Knauz BMW.
> >The SMG 2 Launch control function is awfully had on my clutch. Too 
> >many
> >fookin demonstrations.
> >The US version will not have the launch control function.
> >
> >The M5 was returned back to the US as a special interest category,
> >limited to 1,500 miles annually.
> >BMW AG took forever to provide the necessary documentation for 
> >Customs
> >and EPA for emissions testing, until I hired a Lawyer in Munich to 
> >get
> >it done. This past September my M5 passed US Emissions testing in
> >Illinois. Although I had to down load the appropriate software to 
> >get it
> >done and then download the performance software after testing.
> >
> >All said and done I have a special bonding with my 97 M3/4.
> >
> >
> >
> >*************************************************************
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> >list.
> >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory.
> >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s).
> >
> >To issue a command/request to the server:
> >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the 
> >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net.
> >*************************************************************
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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#3. sonic spark plugs - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:56:58 -0500
From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com>
Subject: sonic spark plugs



I friend of mine has installed some new spark plugs (not on an E36M3)
called sonic spark that give him a noticable boost in power and a little
better gas mileage.   They use a trumpet like opening in the cathode to
create an ultra-sonic sound that precedes the flames and further
atomizes the gas.  here is info. 

 <http://www.inthefuture.com/spark/> http://www.inthefuture.com/spark/ 

Does this sound like something that could actually work or just another
gimmick to take your money? 

Thanks, 
Mike 

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#4. F/S PTG built E36 M3 Racecar - from Jenine5151@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:07:31 EDT
From: Jenine5151@aol.com
Subject: F/S PTG built E36 M3 Racecar

For Sale:

1995 E36 M3 SCCA T2 or BMW IS racecar.  Built by PTG (Prototype Technology 
Group), only SCCA T2 built by PTG.  1995 M3 special order from BMW, no 
sunroof, no options, lightweight cloth interior.  Sent to PTG after car 
arrived at dealer for conversion to racecar.  

Interior:  6-point custom steel rollcage, Sparco Carbon Fiber DTM seat with 
headrestraint, Momo racewheel.

Suspension:  JRZ single adjustable shocks with SCCA T2 "spec" CSL race 
springs on custom front spring perches (height adjustable).  PTG World 
Challenge aluminum rear shock mounts with monoball, and Group N rear lower 
control arms.  Two sets of Fikse wheels 8x17" with 32mm offset

Drivetrain:  Recently rebuilt top end, balanced and blueprinted to SCCA T2 
specs, Custom engine chip, Group N motor and tranny mounts, PTG/Borla World 
Challenge exhaust system, Group N 75% Limited Slip differential with Alpina 
Diff cover.

Car weights under 3000lbs empty (no driver or fuel) with full interior.  Car 
is licensed and registered and is still street legal, can be driven to the 
grocery store or the track.
Comes with numerous spares including Bilstein Group N Struts/Shocks, spare 
differential, extra suspension parts (control arms and trailing arm), body 
parts etc

Car finished 4th place in 2001 SCCA Runoffs T2 race after being knocked off 
to last place!  Also highest place BMW in T2

1998, 1999, 2000 SCCA Northern Pacific Division Champion

Please contact me directly if interested, serious inquiries only

Alex Long: 206-423-4977 or via email Jenine5151@aol.com

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#5. Re: Dyno # for Euro 3.2L M3? - from Daniel Snyder
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:06:07 -0700
From: "Daniel Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com>
Subject: Re: Dyno # for Euro 3.2L M3?

> From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com>
> Subject: Dyno # for Euro 3.2L M3?
>
>     Does anyone have Dynojet results for a stock or modified Euro spec
3.2L
> E36 M3?. If a stock US M3 puts down ~200rwhp (240 crank) and a modified
one
> with Euro HFM, exhaust, etc puts down ~225rwhp (270crank) then I would
> expect to see ~270rwhp from the Euro motor to live up to the claimed
321hp.
> Can anyone confirm?.
>
> TIA,
> Rob

Here is the result from my own (priorly owned) euro M3 (S50B32).  Intake
stock, custom exhaust (stock euro headers), no cat, custom JC chip (no more
power than PTG, however).

HP: 344 @ 7400 (note the limitation of the headers designed for the 3.0L!)
TQ: 285 @ 5900

The motor, when a S50B30 generated roughly (memory):
HP: 311
TQ: ~250

Dan S.

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#6. RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR - from Bruner, Phil
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 10:20:05 -0700
From: "Bruner, Phil" <bruner@littongcs.com>
Subject: RE: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR

I love to see rich guys spend money of good causes.  Is there a web site
somewhere with pics.  Can't believe there wasn't a magazine article done on
this.
PB

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Hazard [mailto:SHazard@nhboston.com]
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 8:59 AM
To: E36M3
Subject: [E36M3] WOW! 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR


Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:08:17 -0400
From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com>
Subject: WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR

This was posted on The Garage board! One hell of a car! THe cost must be
through the roof :-)




Message: 2
   Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:02:07 -0500
   From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <chrisjnk@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR


ACS completed the transformation from the S62 V8 to the V12 LMR last
July.

Here is a summary of the 00 M5 conversion:

The 2000 M5 transformation was a major project at AC Schnitzer with BMW
AG Motorsport partnering and providing major cooperation. It could not
have been done with out BMW AG Motorsport's assistance.

The transaction from BMW AG Motorsport to ACS was handled as a
technology transfer.

Installed was the V12 LMR engine provided by BMW AG. The engine is 6.1
liter's, developing 600 hp and 595 ft. lbs. of torque. Red line is 9,500
rpm. Top speed is programmable, and is set to match up with
whatever set of speed rated tires I'm running. Currently set at 187 mph
to
match up with Bridgestone SO-3 PP tires for the street. The V12 LMR
engine
is a hand built and blue printed engine. A really neat work of design
and
engineering that has proven in its reliability, both on the track and in
the McLaren F1 GTR and the street edition.

The M5 chassis was strengthened and stiffened. ACS did a complete change
out of the suspension system, including a redesign of the geometry. The
braking system utilizes the new Porsche performance braking system at
all four corners with composite ceramic rotors.

The drive train uses the new and improved SMG II sequential shifter
(6-speed transmission) with up/down paddles on each side of the steering
wheel. The shifting was incredibly quick on the track at Hockinheim and
includes launch control.

A Quaife diff with 75% LSD was specified and installed for quick and
sure traction in gears 1 through 4.

Custom carbon fiber and Kevlar aerodynamics are used to provide superior
down force and improved traction and handling in corners and on the
straights. Under body carbon fiber and Kevlar panels are also used to
help create a vacuum under the car to assist in holding the car to the
road at speed. Road hugging is what it feels like. There was a
considerable amount of time in a wind tunnel perfecting the
aerodynamics.

Typical Schnitzer black and red suede interior, with new Recaro
seats being recovered to match. I opted for the BMW red Carbon fiber
trim that glitters and sparkles when the sun shines on it. Same BMW
carbon fiber I have in my M3. The BMW paint color is anthracite.

On the front hood, Jenny Holzer contributed and executed in silver, her
signature artwork and design of "PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT." Jenny
also signed her design.

The BMW sedan is co branded M5 and ACS V12. USA, Illinois plate is WOW
WEE.

Bill Auberlin was my instructor at Hockinheim; we had about five hours a
day on the track for four days. Bill is currently a LMR driver in ALMS
racing and was an E36 M3 driver with PTG.

The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph and
8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The timings
were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle
driver
and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport.

Although these are typical US straight line drag times, the handling on
the track had eye popping exit speeds out of the corners, with well
balanced and highly predictable handling into the turns and the exits.
The BMW M5 ACS V12 suspension system set up, established
It's self with stunning performance and handling in rotating thru the
corners at speed on the track at Hockinheim.

Hockenheim is not set up for straight-line timings, so we had to
improvise. A portable electronic system of start/end was initially set
up, but too many other cars on the track interfered with the trigger
lights. As we had picked up a caravan of bikes, VW's, MB and Porsches
and Ferrari's all attempting to run with the M5 sedan.

The timings were then done manually with a stopwatch, not the most
accurate for the 1/4-mile timings. The shorter 0-60 mph runs were a
more accurate and consistent as it was more of a controlled event.
There had been some ongoing, general disagreement among the
Drivers and engineers regarding the quarter mile timings.

The timings are not presented here as a definitive set of performance
measurement data for publishing, but rather as a good and acceptable
measurement of performance for our internal goals and metrics that
we had established going into the conversion project.

During our early discussions in the spring of 2000, when it was
mentioned that the base "V12 LMR was 700 hp."  I had requested
if it was possible for more then 600 hp in the M5 and Herr Dieter Lamb,
principle
of ACS, smiles, laughs and tells me "600 hp is plenty fast enough for
the
M5 sedan, you will see"

During the four days at Hockinheim, not one other car on the track was
able to out perform the M5, anywhere on the track. Every time a new and
fresh car appeared to challenge, we had a scramble as to who would drive
and take it on to help us gauge and determine our competitive
performance results and standing.

We have two Performance car dealers in town and I get to see a range of
Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lotus's. Last fall on the road, I
did have the opportunity to embarrass several high price performance
cars and drivers, who had no clue about the set up of the M5 "sedan".

Currently, my clutch is being replaced for the 2nd time at Knauz BMW.
The SMG 2 Launch control function is awfully had on my clutch. Too many
fookin demonstrations.
The US version will not have the launch control function.

The M5 was returned back to the US as a special interest category,
limited to 1,500 miles annually.
BMW AG took forever to provide the necessary documentation for Customs
and EPA for emissions testing, until I hired a Lawyer in Munich to get
it done. This past September my M5 passed US Emissions testing in
Illinois. Although I had to down load the appropriate software to get it
done and then download the performance software after testing.

All said and done I have a special bonding with my 97 M3/4.



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#7. pleasant experience today at Russel BMW, Balto, MD - from Kevin M. Gregg
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 13:57:36 -0400
From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com>
Subject: pleasant experience today at Russel BMW, Balto, MD

Hi-

Please allow me to share a pleasant dealer
experience I had today.

I was on the last turn of my drive home from
work yesterday when I heard a distinct "pop"
from under the hood.  The power steering got
very "noisy" and the steering wheel became
a bit harder to turn.  I get the car (97 M3 coupe)
into the garage, turn it off and look under it.  Red
fluid is dripping onto the floor.  Something
broke somewhere in the power steering system,
I'm guessing.  It's now 5 pm, too late to get
the car serviced today.

At 7 Fri morning, I head to Russel BMW in Balto,
MD.... about 15 minutes away.  The car is driveable,
but makes a lot of racket.  I hope that I'm not
doing more damage to the steering system.  I don't
have an appointment... it takes about a week to
get one with them.  This is only my second
visit to this dealer. I had an Inspection I
done there about a month ago.  I did not buy
the car from them.

I was preparing myself to spend many hours at the
dealer today.

I'm first in line as they open the doors at 7:30.
I spend the next hour or so in the customer
lounge.  I then hear my name called and talk to
the Service Manager (Tom).  "The power steering
hose running from the reservoir to the rack &
pinion has broken.  We don't have the part here
but could get one by 11. The car will be ready
by 1 or so this afternoon.  Oh, and by the way,
a loaner car is available today.  Someone did
not need it at the last minute.  Would you like
to take it for the day?"

Rather than cool my heels in the customer lounge
for a few hours (or longer!), I take the car and
head to work.  I'm a happy camper.  At this point,
I almost don't care how much the repair bill will
be.

I'm VERY satisfied with Russel BMW.  I'll be back.

Cheers,

Kevin Gregg
kevingregg@home.com
1997 BMW M3 Estoril Blue coupe
http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/
BMW CCA member
Columbia, MD, USA

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#8. Re: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR

Hmmm....someone's lying...

http://javascript.internet.com/calculators/horsepower.html

Chester

> The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph and
> 8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The timings
> were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle
> driver
> and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport.


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#9. Re: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:33:01 -0400
From: nabli@attglobal.net
Subject: Re: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR


Guys, 

Let's be serious here a second. 


If we assumed that the car weighs a VERY optimistic 3750 (and I
personally don't see how an M5 with a driver could weigh that little)
which does the 1/4 mile in 8.7s @ 157.9 MPH is just insulting. 


You would need a car with 1100 (yes I typed in FOUR digits!) HP!!! 


You can go to these sites:
http://www.google.com/search?q=quarter+mile+calculator
<http://www.google.com/search?q=quarter+mile+calculator>  and do the
calculations yourself. 


It goes along the same line as saying:  "My opinion is that I really
don't think that the sway bar tabs tearing has 
anything to do with high G cornering." 


And then :"To sum it up:  Tabs breaking are not caused by high G
cornering."  (i.e., opinion to fact) 


Some responses just aren't worth responding too. 


Yes I admit it, I used to drag race - A LOT!  :-) 


CHeers, 
Jim E. 


Steve Hazard wrote: 


Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:08:17 -0400 
From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com> 
Subject: WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR 

This was posted on The Garage board! One hell of a car! THe cost must be

through the roof :-) 


Message: 2 
   Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:02:07 -0500 
   From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <chrisjnk@ix.netcom.com> 
Subject: 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR 


ACS completed the transformation from the S62 V8 to the V12 LMR last 
July. 


Here is a summary of the 00 M5 conversion: 


The 2000 M5 transformation was a major project at AC Schnitzer with BMW 
AG Motorsport partnering and providing major cooperation. It could not 
have been done with out BMW AG Motorsport's assistance. 


The transaction from BMW AG Motorsport to ACS was handled as a 
technology transfer. 


Installed was the V12 LMR engine provided by BMW AG. The engine is 6.1 
liter's, developing 600 hp and 595 ft. lbs. of torque. Red line is 9,500

rpm. Top speed is programmable, and is set to match up with 
whatever set of speed rated tires I'm running. Currently set at 187 mph 
to 
match up with Bridgestone SO-3 PP tires for the street. The V12 LMR 
engine 
is a hand built and blue printed engine. A really neat work of design 
and 
engineering that has proven in its reliability, both on the track and in

the McLaren F1 GTR and the street edition. 


The M5 chassis was strengthened and stiffened. ACS did a complete change

out of the suspension system, including a redesign of the geometry. The 
braking system utilizes the new Porsche performance braking system at 
all four corners with composite ceramic rotors. 


The drive train uses the new and improved SMG II sequential shifter 
(6-speed transmission) with up/down paddles on each side of the steering

wheel. The shifting was incredibly quick on the track at Hockinheim and 
includes launch control. 


A Quaife diff with 75% LSD was specified and installed for quick and 
sure traction in gears 1 through 4. 


Custom carbon fiber and Kevlar aerodynamics are used to provide superior

down force and improved traction and handling in corners and on the 
straights. Under body carbon fiber and Kevlar panels are also used to 
help create a vacuum under the car to assist in holding the car to the 
road at speed. Road hugging is what it feels like. There was a 
considerable amount of time in a wind tunnel perfecting the 
aerodynamics. 


Typical Schnitzer black and red suede interior, with new Recaro 
seats being recovered to match. I opted for the BMW red Carbon fiber 
trim that glitters and sparkles when the sun shines on it. Same BMW 
carbon fiber I have in my M3. The BMW paint color is anthracite. 


On the front hood, Jenny Holzer contributed and executed in silver, her 
signature artwork and design of "PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT." Jenny 
also signed her design. 


The BMW sedan is co branded M5 and ACS V12. USA, Illinois plate is WOW 
WEE. 


Bill Auberlin was my instructor at Hockinheim; we had about five hours a

day on the track for four days. Bill is currently a LMR driver in ALMS 
racing and was an E36 M3 driver with PTG. 


The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph and 
8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The timings 
were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle 
driver 
and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport. 


Although these are typical US straight line drag times, the handling on 
the track had eye popping exit speeds out of the corners, with well 
balanced and highly predictable handling into the turns and the exits. 
The BMW M5 ACS V12 suspension system set up, established 
It's self with stunning performance and handling in rotating thru the 
corners at speed on the track at Hockinheim. 


Hockenheim is not set up for straight-line timings, so we had to 
improvise. A portable electronic system of start/end was initially set 
up, but too many other cars on the track interfered with the trigger 
lights. As we had picked up a caravan of bikes, VW's, MB and Porsches 
and Ferrari's all attempting to run with the M5 sedan. 


The timings were then done manually with a stopwatch, not the most 
accurate for the 1/4-mile timings. The shorter 0-60 mph runs were a 
more accurate and consistent as it was more of a controlled event. 
There had been some ongoing, general disagreement among the 
Drivers and engineers regarding the quarter mile timings. 


The timings are not presented here as a definitive set of performance 
measurement data for publishing, but rather as a good and acceptable 
measurement of performance for our internal goals and metrics that 
we had established going into the conversion project. 


During our early discussions in the spring of 2000, when it was 
mentioned that the base "V12 LMR was 700 hp."  I had requested 
if it was possible for more then 600 hp in the M5 and Herr Dieter Lamb, 
principle 
of ACS, smiles, laughs and tells me "600 hp is plenty fast enough for 
the 
M5 sedan, you will see" 


During the four days at Hockinheim, not one other car on the track was 
able to out perform the M5, anywhere on the track. Every time a new and 
fresh car appeared to challenge, we had a scramble as to who would drive

and take it on to help us gauge and determine our competitive 
performance results and standing. 


We have two Performance car dealers in town and I get to see a range of 
Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lotus's. Last fall on the road, I 
did have the opportunity to embarrass several high price performance 
cars and drivers, who had no clue about the set up of the M5 "sedan". 


Currently, my clutch is being replaced for the 2nd time at Knauz BMW. 
The SMG 2 Launch control function is awfully had on my clutch. Too many 
fookin demonstrations. 
The US version will not have the launch control function. 


The M5 was returned back to the US as a special interest category, 
limited to 1,500 miles annually. 
BMW AG took forever to provide the necessary documentation for Customs 
and EPA for emissions testing, until I hired a Lawyer in Munich to get 
it done. This past September my M5 passed US Emissions testing in 
Illinois. Although I had to down load the appropriate software to get it

done and then download the performance software after testing. 


All said and done I have a special bonding with my 97 M3/4. 


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#10. Re: [E36M3] WOW! 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 14:55:51 -0400
From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [E36M3] WOW! 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR

I don't think the HP calculator is very accurate. Put in the spec's for an 
M3...I used a weight of 3,350 and 3,400 and a time of 14.0 sec.
It gave me HP of over 300 at the flywheel.


>
>Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 11:16:07 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com>
>Subject: Re: [E36M3] WOW!  00 M5 ACS V12 LMR
>
>Hmmm....someone's lying...
>
>http://javascript.internet.com/calculators/horsepower.html
>
>Chester
>
> > The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph and
> > 8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The timings
> > were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle
> > driver
> > and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport.
>


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