E36M3 #1697

Tuesday, October 16, 2001 12:19:10

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. RE: Kumho Victoracers - to shave or not to shave? - from Michael Stembera
#2. ramblings... - from Scott King
#3. Bimmerworld - from DiVincenti, A.J.
#4. The EPA Strikes Back, No New Hope - from Mel Silva
#5. To M or not to M with your TF - from The Buch
#6. Chris' WOW! 00 M5 ACS now with V12 with new "LIE" - from nabli@attglobal.net
#7. '95 M3 FS Price Lowered! - from Dorffer, Rich
#8. Re: Air Compressor - from Neil Maller
#9. ASCectomy - from Robert Exconde
#10. Re: [E36M3] ASCectomy - from Chester Wong

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#1. RE: Kumho Victoracers - to shave or not to shave? - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 00:37:57 -0500 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Kumho Victoracers - to shave or not to shave? Would it make sense to heat cycle street tires like the Michelin Pilot Sports? Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------- Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 19:59:19 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Kumho Victoracers - to shave or not to shave? Tread squirm heats up the tire more, which can increase wear. In a worst case scenerio, it can cause chunking, where pieces of rubber start falling off in chunks. This usually happpens with a full tread street tire that gets abused at an autocross. I have seen a Mustang GT chew up a new set of street tires in a single day of practice at a school. Course he was heavily plowing the front end... but all the tread squirm just chunked up the tire into little bits. For Autocross on the E36 M3, I have not found much of a difference in wear shaved/vs unshaved, but I do heat cycle them before I use them. On the other hand, the shaved start out quicker, and last about as long, so that's not a bad deal. Chris 97 M3/4

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#2. ramblings... - from Scott King
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 07:25:14 -0400 From: "Scott King" <vw8vgti@hotmail.com> Subject: ramblings... <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>A couple of things...</P> <P>My AIM name is vw8vgti83...is anyone keeping a list to cross reference with folks real world identities?</P> <P>and what the heck happened to all the sticker discussion?  Did we all lose interest?</P> <P>Scott K.</P></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_itl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></html>

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#3. Bimmerworld - from DiVincenti, A.J.
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:08:20 -0500 From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> Subject: Bimmerworld I don't mind saying this in a public forum. I have done business with Bimmerworld and my experience has been positive. James is a good guy and has given me help both before and after a sale. AJ DiVincenti Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 17:00:21 -0700 From: "Lee Conte" <leeconte@home.com> Subject: anyone know Bimmerworld? If any of you have bought from bimmerworld before, could you please send me private email, letting me know what you think of them? I am thinking of doing business with them and would really appreciate hearing about positive or negative experiences. Please send responses privately. Thanks! ------------------------------ Lee Conte San Diego, California

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#4. The EPA Strikes Back, No New Hope - from Mel Silva
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 09:23:31 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: The EPA Strikes Back, No New Hope Excuse the slight OT rambling here, but I'm am just fuming over the new plan put into effect in Houston for EPA Compliance and reduced airborne pollutants. The plan includes several things that make sense including a stricter tailpipe "sniffer" test and reduced emissions by corporations, but again as with CA, the corporations can buy "smog credits" to reduce their liability for output violations. The thing that has me absolutely steamed is the reduction of speed limits to 55 MPH next May. What are they thinking, can anyone explain this to me? In the '70s this was a viable solution given the current fuel efficiency and drag coefficients that '70s and '60s era cars were capable of. However, cars from the '90s and up are A) more fuel efficient, B) have computer controlled "closed loop" emissions controls, and C) have lower drag coefficients. Maybe this is aimed at the high population of SUV's? I'm wondering why the state government doesn't enforce more strict standards for the large number of diesel trucks we have here. Why don't they keep the damn trucks out of the left lanes on the highway? I remember painfully the 55 MPH era in California and the block parties we had when the limit was returned to 65 in most areas. This is just making me ill to think about it. Thanks for letting me vent. Mel '97 M3, stuck in 3rd gear on the highway as of next May (wipes tear)

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#5. To M or not to M with your TF - from The Buch
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 08:12:59 -0700 From: The Buch <the_buch@telus.net> Subject: To M or not to M with your TF Hoping to compare the viscosity profiles of Redline D4 ATF with the stuff in my '99 M3, I contacted the local BMW dealer. Apparently they don't know who the manufacturer of their TF is, but stated that it was definitely a manual transmission product from '98 onward (code MTF-LT1). Of course, they also state that this is a lifetime fluid, and that they would not be able to 'cover' for damages caused by any alternatives. Anyone have some extra wisdom to add to this. I want to make sure that the fluid friction in the tranny optimizes shifting smoothness with no compromise on syncro life. Thanks, DB

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#6. Chris' WOW! 00 M5 ACS now with V12 with new "LIE" - from nabli@attglobal.net
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:17:07 -0400 From: nabli@attglobal.net Subject: Chris' WOW! 00 M5 ACS now with V12 with new "LIE" Dear list members: For all you folks that were taken in by Christopher J. N. Kolaitis' "M5" here's a bit of news for you. Not only was the performance data too "raw" but you might also want to consider the identity of the Bill Auberlin raw data as well. Chris' "stories are pasted below for your viewing please. When I originally saw the 1/4 raw data figures i was in disbelief - though some of you still thought those "raw" numbers where possible. UNBELIEVABLE! I was also amazed that Bill Auberlen would actually take time out of his racing schedule to train Chris at Hockenheim in addition to the fact that "the timings were then done manually with a stopwatch." Apparently Schnitzer tuning is really really over-rated. :-) Anyway to make a long story short I emailed PTG and asked them to forward my message to Bill Auberlen: I said: (Note: Chris' whole email was attached of course) If you would be so kind and forward this message to Bill Auberlin for his response I would greatly appreciate it. I wanted to know if Bill ever heard of Mr. Christopher J. N. Kolaitis and whether or not he was his instructor at Hockinheim as indicated in the quoted message. Best regards and keep up the great racing! Cheers, Jim El Nabli THIS IS BILL AUBERLEN'S RESPONSE: Dear Jim: That is a very interesting story I just wish I had actually taken part in it. To answer your question I have never heard of this guy, or have never heard of a car like the one in his story. I just wonder how he got a hold of the very secret lmr engine, which by the way is not the same as the Mclaren engine. Good luck in finding the real story and let me know what he says. Best Regards, Bill Auberlen PS Did you know I also flew to the moon in 1991. Just kidding. I did not want to publicly post Bill Auberlen's email so I forwarded it to 6 list members. I just don't see the need to post lies! Cheers, Jim E. Message: 2 Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2001 05:02:07 -0500 From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <chrisjnk@ix.netcom.com> Subject: 00 M5 ACS V12 LMR ACS completed the transformation from the S62 V8 to the V12 LMR last July. Here is a summary of the 00 M5 conversion: The 2000 M5 transformation was a major project at AC Schnitzer with BMW AG Motorsport partnering and providing major cooperation. It could not have been done with out BMW AG Motorsport's assistance. The transaction from BMW AG Motorsport to ACS was handled as a technology transfer. Installed was the V12 LMR engine provided by BMW AG. The engine is 6.1 liter's, developing 600 hp and 595 ft. lbs. of torque. Red line is 9,500 rpm. Top speed is programmable, and is set to match up with whatever set of speed rated tires I'm running. Currently set at 187 mph to match up with Bridgestone SO-3 PP tires for the street. The V12 LMR engine is a hand built and blue printed engine. A really neat work of design and engineering that has proven in its reliability, both on the track and in the McLaren F1 GTR and the street edition. The M5 chassis was strengthened and stiffened. ACS did a complete change out of the suspension system, including a redesign of the geometry. The braking system utilizes the new Porsche performance braking system at all four corners with composite ceramic rotors. The drive train uses the new and improved SMG II sequential shifter (6-speed transmission) with up/down paddles on each side of the steering wheel. The shifting was incredibly quick on the track at Hockinheim and includes launch control. A Quaife diff with 75% LSD was specified and installed for quick and sure traction in gears 1 through 4. Custom carbon fiber and Kevlar aerodynamics are used to provide superior down force and improved traction and handling in corners and on the straights. Under body carbon fiber and Kevlar panels are also used to help create a vacuum under the car to assist in holding the car to the road at speed. Road hugging is what it feels like. There was a considerable amount of time in a wind tunnel perfecting the aerodynamics. Typical Schnitzer black and red suede interior, with new Recaro seats being recovered to match. I opted for the BMW red Carbon fiber trim that glitters and sparkles when the sun shines on it. Same BMW carbon fiber I have in my M3. The BMW paint color is anthracite. On the front hood, Jenny Holzer contributed and executed in silver, her signature artwork and design of "PROTECT ME FROM WHAT I WANT." Jenny also signed her design. The BMW sedan is co branded M5 and ACS V12. USA, Illinois plate is WOW WEE. Bill Auberlin was my instructor at Hockinheim; we had about five hours a day on the track for four days. Bill is currently a LMR driver in ALMS racing and was an E36 M3 driver with PTG. The straight-line timings at Hockinheim were: 3.1 seconds to 60 mph and 8.7 seconds at the quarter mile with a speed of 157.9 mph. The timings were consistent and repeatable with Bill Auberlin as the principle driver and drivers from both ACS and BMW AG Motorsport. Although these are typical US straight line drag times, the handling on the track had eye popping exit speeds out of the corners, with well balanced and highly predictable handling into the turns and the exits. The BMW M5 ACS V12 suspension system set up, established It's self with stunning performance and handling in rotating thru the corners at speed on the track at Hockinheim. Hockenheim is not set up for straight-line timings, so we had to improvise. A portable electronic system of start/end was initially set up, but too many other cars on the track interfered with the trigger lights. As we had picked up a caravan of bikes, VW's, MB and Porsches and Ferrari's all attempting to run with the M5 sedan. The timings were then done manually with a stopwatch, not the most accurate for the 1/4-mile timings. The shorter 0-60 mph runs were a more accurate and consistent as it was more of a controlled event. There had been some ongoing, general disagreement among the Drivers and engineers regarding the quarter mile timings. The timings are not presented here as a definitive set of performance measurement data for publishing, but rather as a good and acceptable measurement of performance for our internal goals and metrics that we had established going into the conversion project. During our early discussions in the spring of 2000, when it was mentioned that the base "V12 LMR was 700 hp." I had requested if it was possible for more then 600 hp in the M5 and Herr Dieter Lamb, principle of ACS, smiles, laughs and tells me "600 hp is plenty fast enough for the M5 sedan, you will see" During the four days at Hockinheim, not one other car on the track was able to out perform the M5, anywhere on the track. Every time a new and fresh car appeared to challenge, we had a scramble as to who would drive and take it on to help us gauge and determine our competitive performance results and standing. We have two Performance car dealers in town and I get to see a range of Porsche's, Ferrari's and Lotus's. Last fall on the road, I did have the opportunity to embarrass several high price performance cars and drivers, who had no clue about the set up of the M5 "sedan". Currently, my clutch is being replaced for the 2nd time at Knauz BMW. The SMG 2 Launch control function is awfully had on my clutch. Too many fookin demonstrations. The US version will not have the launch control function. The M5 was returned back to the US as a special interest category, limited to 1,500 miles annually. BMW AG took forever to provide the necessary documentation for Customs and EPA for emissions testing, until I hired a Lawyer in Munich to get it done. This past September my M5 passed US Emissions testing in Illinois. Although I had to down load the appropriate software to get it done and then download the performance software after testing. All said and done I have a special bonding with my 97 M3/4. "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" wrote: Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2001 07:16:25 -0500 From: "Christopher J. N. Kolaitis" <chrisjnk@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Performance disclaimer was previously published! We all had agreed that the data was too raw and inconsistent for accurate metric use or publication, you might also want to consider it as raw data as well. "There had been some ongoing, general disagreement among the drivers and engineers regarding the quarter mile timings. The timings are not presented here as a definitive set of performance measurement data for publishing, but rather as a good and acceptable measurement of performance for our internal goals and metrics that we had established going into the conversion project." The above quotes are repeated for your recall and review. Chris, Windy City Chapter aka BAADDOG 97 M3/4 Dinan daily driver & grocery getter I can go out, get a loaf of bread and return home faster then anyone in Highland Park, IL ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). 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#7. '95 M3 FS Price Lowered! - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 11:18:35 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: '95 M3 FS Price Lowered! Dam, everyone beat me to the punch. I needed a parts car at that price. Rich 95 M3

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#8. Re: Air Compressor - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:56:56 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Air Compressor on 10/16/01 12:08 AM, "Prakash Maggan" <pmaggan@yahoo.com> wrote: > I am considering purchasing an Air Compressor and came across the Campbell > Hausfeld web site. They are selling a Factory Serviced 6.5hp 60 gallon Twin > cylinder cast iron oil lubricated for $339 + $47 shipping. This seems like > a great price. Any opinions on Cambell Hausfeld? Thanks. C-H is one of, maybe the, largest compressor makers. This sounds like a heck of a deal. You'll need to anchor it, either into the floor or maybe to a wooden skid. Also at 6.5 HP it's probably 240V, so you'll need that available. The nice thing about the oil lubed compressors is that they're quiet. "Bruner, Phil" <bruner@littongcs.com> adds: > Oh one more thing; these mfgs have kind of a flaky (in my opinion) way of > specifying HP. To an EE, 1 HP=746 Watts. Yeah, it's a cheat. NEMA (National Electrical Manufacturers Association) rates small single phase motors based on breakdown (max) torque, not continuous output. Furthermore a motor can only run near the breakdown torque point for an extremely short period of time without overheating, so this is just a measure of the motor's ability to handle a momentary overload. Then to make matters worse, NEMA has a special HP rating system just for air compressor motors. It takes into account the very high starting torque requirements of this application. My 5 HP compressor, which in engineering terms ought to draw over 32 amps at 115V, is somehow OK for a 15 amp circuit! So its true continuous output is less than 50% of the NEMA rated HP. Neil - Sears 5 HP (or is it 2.5 HP?) compressor 96 M3

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#9. ASCectomy - from Robert Exconde
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 18:00:58 +0100 From: "Robert Exconde" <99e36M3@exconde.com> Subject: ASCectomy After discovering the annoyance of ASC. I'm wondering down the road of a more permanent fix. The way I see it, I have two options: 1. Remove and replace the ASC Throttle Body 2. Install a kill switch After Effects: 1. Allow the Motorsports Brace to be installed 2. Deactivate ASC 3. Light up the ASC on Dash(OBC?) Has anyone with a 96+ M3 done this? Leaving the actuator connected will retain the ABS. I turn the ASC off everytime I drive and find it is just a hassle to me. But then again liability concerns come up: If in a major accident, I suppose the insurance would not cover me. It would probably be the same case as if the ASC was turned off and during 'discovery' this was found out. Robert 99/M3

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#10. Re: [E36M3] ASCectomy - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 10:16:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ASCectomy Hunter Johnson wired up his car to always turn off the ASC upon initial startup. You could then actively turn it on if you so desired. Chester --- Robert Exconde <99e36M3@exconde.com> wrote: > After discovering the annoyance of ASC. I'm wondering down the road of a more > permanent fix. > > The way I see it, I have two options: > 1. Remove and replace the ASC Throttle Body > 2. Install a kill switch > > After Effects: > 1. Allow the Motorsports Brace to be installed > 2. Deactivate ASC > 3. Light up the ASC on Dash(OBC?) > > Has anyone with a 96+ M3 done this? Leaving the actuator connected will > retain the ABS. > I turn the ASC off everytime I drive and find it is just a hassle to me. > > But then again liability concerns come up: If in a major accident, I suppose > the insurance would not cover me. It would probably be the same case as if > the ASC was turned off and during 'discovery' this was found out. > > Robert > 99/M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com

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