E36M3 #1752

Tuesday, November 06, 2001 10:42:25

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. - from Michael Lawrence
#2. thermostat - from John Pease
#3. RE: [E36M3] busted thermostat? - from Justin P.
#4. Re: Busted thermostat? - from Neil Maller
#5. Re: Insurance, etc. - from Neil Maller
#6. Re: [E36M3] Handbrake Warning Light - from Rob Jackowitz
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. - from twisty M3
#8. introduction - from Zack Steinkamp
#9. 1996 BMW M3 FOR SALE!!!!!! - from DINAN1@aol.com
#10. 1996 BMW M3 FOR SALE!!!!!! - from DINAN1@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:09:35 -0800 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. I have never heard of anyone being denied coverage for a drivers school event except for the 1 I list below.. If they had, it would spread like wild fire thru the chapter people since it would be opening the book on the end of drivers schools. I know several people on this list have written off M3s, myself included, and insurance took care of it. My situation was as painless as possible. Gave the location of the car, what happened, had a check for retail value 9 days after the event. No questions were asked and seemingly no concerns about it being totalled on a race track. A good friend had severe but not totalling damage done to his car and he had to fax just about all paperwork involved from the club, Chief steward from the school also had to send in paper work that is was not a race etc to get them to cover his damage. I think USAA or somebody like that does have writing in their policys that deny coverage of any accident on a non public road or specifically a race track. I know of atleast one person personally that was sent a policy midyear that stated such coverage would not cover anything at a school on a track. He had to drop them and go to somebody else. So do read your policy, but dont go running to the company asking. Unless it states something specific, you are covered. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 5:51 PM Subject: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. > From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> > On a serious note, I would be interested in hearing from anyone who's filed > an insurance claim after having dented their car at a driver's school > event. What did you insurance adjuster tell you? Were you covered or not?

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#2. thermostat - from John Pease
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 20:22:14 -0800 (PST) From: John Pease <john_pease123@yahoo.com> Subject: thermostat Jason wrote: > They want 40 something and take it home to find >out that it is marked 92 degrees. my broken one is >marked 88degrees. >Thats nearly a 10degree fahrenheit difference. >Called them back and he >said that the 92 supercedes the 88 The 92 C thermostat replaces the 88 C unit. I find the E36 M3 engine difficult to bleed after messing around with the cooling system. I drill one two 1/8 inch holes on the thermostat body and orient the thermostat so that the holes are on top. These holes are large enough to let trapped air pass, but small enough not to alter thermostat operation. John Pease __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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#3. RE: [E36M3] busted thermostat? - from Justin P.
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Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 22:11:20 -0800 From: "Justin P." <jpaek421@home.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] busted thermostat? What are the consequences of temporarily running your car with a wide-open thermostat? -----Original Message----- From: LoweSeaton@aol.com [mailto:LoweSeaton@aol.com] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 12:02 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] busted thermostat? Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 02:54:20 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] busted thermostat? Jason, Oh yeah! Wide open thermostat will definitely cause your engine to run cold. I completely remove the thermostat from my Chevy beater car here in Dallas during the summer. [It is a 2 minute job to remove/replace it.] With about 50 days over 100 each summer, the last thing I worry about is my car running too cold in stop-and-go rush hour traffic. However, I forgot to put it back in prior to a trip home for Christmas to my family in Iowa one year. [Note: M3 with Pilot SX MXX3 tires is undriveable in snow. ;-) ] The temperature was below zero most of the way through Kansas and Iowa. I almost froze to death since my heater wouldn't put out any warm air at legal speed limits. I did discover that if I drove 75+ mph, the engine warmed up enough to at least prevent frost bite. Guess how fast I drove? I'm just glad I didn't have to explain to the highway patrol why I was driving 15 mph over the speed limit. LOL I would start with replacing the thermostat on your M3. Eliminate that variable. At least it is better to be stuck open rather than stuck closed. Replacing the thermostat is not that difficult. More than 2 minutes but less than 1 hour labor. Getting the fan off will be the most difficult. You need a 32 mm wrench. There is a special tool to hold the fan from turning while your loosen the nut but I've managed without this tool. Put your wrench on the nut and then give the wrench a "whack" with a rubber mallet. There should be enough inertia and resistance from the fan clutch to let you break the nut loose. But remember the nut is REVERSE threaded. Turn it CLOCKWISE to loosen. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#4. Re: Busted thermostat? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 07:40:10 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Busted thermostat? on 11/5/01 9:01 PM, Jason Bishop <jason@secondhat.com> wrote: > thanks everybody for the info on replacing thermostat. I got stuck taking > the fan off for a few minutes. Who on earth sells 32mm wrenches? Bicycle stores. > next I unscrewed the plastic thermostat housing and found something > decidedly wrong looking. the shaft that the t'stat slides on was bent to > one side because the point where its holder attaches to the t'stat body > just broke off. Pulled the thing out and found that it would no longer > move. I was just permanently open slightly. So it runs too cold in cold > weather and too hot in hot weather. Common failure mode. > it is marked 92 degrees. my broken one is marked 88degrees. > Thats nearly a 10degree fahrenheit difference. Called them back and he > said that the 92 supercedes the 88. I'm a bit surprised. Does that sound > right? Yes. Neil 96 M3

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#5. Re: Insurance, etc. - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 07:41:32 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Insurance, etc. on 11/5/01 4:46 PM, "Carl Harris Sewell" <jzy308@adelphia.net> wrote: > Under the Liability and Physical Damages Coverages, we have added an > exclusion that applies to the ownership, maintenance or use of a vehicle > while it is inside a racing facility, for the purposes of competing in or > practicing for, a prearranged racing or speed contest. This possibility of > loss is not appropriate for coverage under a personal auto policy. > > Thank goodness the Nürburgring is a public road! I wonder how this would > apply to drivers’ schools. Any comments BMW CCA Driver Schools are not "racing or speed contests." We are careful to document - and we mean it - that our schools are not timed or competitive events, and that anything even resembling racing will result in expulsion from the school. We have designated passing zones and driver school passing rules. This is also the reason we don't normally allow the use of timing devices such as a Hot Lap during the school. However there has been at least one court case (in Mass. IIRC - I have the docs somewhere) where a Porsche driver's insurance claim was disallowed, more or less on the basis that the kind of driving he was doing on track in a school didn't constitute the normal use of the car that the insurance company thought they were signing up for. This was complicated by the fact that it was his second similar claim, and that the owner actively concealed in both cases that the incidents occurred on track. His new claim was disallowed, and the first claim was reversed retroactively. While this decision may have been intended to punish the driver's conduct, it also could set a precedent. (I'm going from memory here, this summary may be approximate.) on 11/5/01 7:51 PM, "Pat Donahue" aka "The Geeze" <Pat@patdonahue.com> added: > I always drove my street car like I expected to pay for any repairs myself > and of course my race car I _was_ expected to pay for any repairs myself. > That's probably why I never had any damage to my street car and very little > to my race car. Nicely said. Neil 96 M3

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Handbrake Warning Light - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 10:37:00 -0500 From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Handbrake Warning Light You just need to tighten the cable from inside the car. Remove the parking brake boot (pull forward from the rear). See 2 cables each with two nuts on them. Tighten those suckers up a few turns and you should be fine. >Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2001 17:11:46 -0600 >From: "Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR" <Christopher.Darling@scott.af.mil> >Subject: Handbrake Warning Light > >Here's a problem I don't remember ever seeing on this or any other list. >I have a problem with my handbrake lever, specifically the light >circuit. The microswitch somewhere under the lever isn't adjusted >properly, and whenever the car hits a bump and jostles the interior, the >handbrake light will flicker on. Incredibly annoying. It's getting to >where I almost have to push down on the handbrake lever full time to >prevent the light from coming on. Any advice? Is this easy to adjust? _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 07:57:14 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Insurance, etc. No personaly experience, but I have a friend who totalled his '97 at the track. Insurance covered it and he now has a "new" '95 with many mods. Jonathan L. >From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> > >On a serious note, I would be interested in hearing from anyone who's filed >an insurance claim after having dented their car at a driver's school >event. What did you insurance adjuster tell you? Were you covered or not? > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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#8. introduction - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2001 08:22:18 -0800 (PST) From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: introduction greetings listmembers... five days ago i was the lucky purchaser of a beautiful titanium silver '98 M3 sedan with 28K miles on it. i think the owner was a member of this list... some photos of the car: http://nobot.2y.net/m3/ every day as i drive it, i gain more appreciation and respect for the car. as many others have said, this car is as close to the ideal compromise between driving performance and utility. it's really amazing! i'm looking forward to getting to know you all... i've had lots of good experiences on other internet lists. one question: is there a FAQ somewhere? i found a couple of scattered, fragmented FAQs on some bmw-m sites, but nothing that looked like a good comprehensive one built from questions asked on lists like this. thanks zs __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Find a job, post your resume. http://careers.yahoo.com

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#9. 1996 BMW M3 FOR SALE!!!!!! - from DINAN1@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:23:57 EST From: DINAN1@aol.com Subject: 1996 BMW M3 FOR SALE!!!!!!

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#10. 1996 BMW M3 FOR SALE!!!!!! - from DINAN1@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 11:41:14 EST From: DINAN1@aol.com Subject: 1996 BMW M3 FOR SALE!!!!!! Hello,well looks like i am going to part with my baby, I am selling my 1996 supercharged bmw m3. this car is extremely clean, it has 65k on the clock, and still goes like the wind. The interior is black, and it is a perfect 10. The exterior is also black, Cosmos Black, and it is a 9 out of 10, it has some small rock chips and a few imperfections, but i have had this car since new, so to me i can see everything, i am a perfectionist when it comes to my automobiles, and this car is extremely clean.... you will NOT find a 96 this clean. The car has a dinan supercharger on it, the head unit is a powerdyne, other than that the engine is completely stock, and has never been into. as for the rest of the car, it has h&r springs, 18" BBS RK2 wheels , bruellin exhaust, and clear markers. all the stock parts are included, stock markers, stock exhaust, and stock intake parts. Again, this car is EXTREMELY CLEAN, and i need to sell it. Price is negotiable, and i am available any time, if you will be flying out I need 24 hou rs notice to make arrangements. If you would like you can phone me @ 219-670-0086 Cell 219-696-4088 Home 219-397-7108, Work. or you may e mail me @ Dinan1@aol.com. Thanks for looking and hope to hear from you. Jeff Bianchi

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