E36M3 #1796

Tuesday, November 20, 2001 16:49:57

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#1. NASCAR - from Dorffer, Rich
#2. Clutch Engagement Problem - from Paul Elliott
#3. Gas leak fix in E36M3; VPC off topic observation - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Engagement Problem - from milvid
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Speaking of SMGII and Launch Control - from Heckendorf, David
#6. Re: gas leak - from Sean Silva
#7. Deteriorating Fuel System Hoses - from Ron Buchalski
#8. RE: [E36M3] Gas leak fix in E36M3: Thanks! - from Juan Rico
#9. Intake Air Temperature Sensor (IAT) - from Paul Elliott
#10. Autopower Bars - from Mark Radelow

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#1. NASCAR - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:19:31 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: NASCAR I could hardly believe this exists. Seems pretty redundant to me. http://catalog.dummies.com/product.asp?isbn=0764552198 or http://images.amazon.com/images/P/0764552198.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg Chapter 1 - Turning left Chapter 2 - Driving counter clock wise Chapter 3 - Minimizing your drawl when talking with the media Chapter 4 - Mechanics of counter clock wise and left hand turns Chapter 5 - The Mullet Hair Cut Chapter 6 - ... .... .... This appears to be a link for the actual chapters: http://www.topfive.com/arcs/t5092601.shtml Sorry if I offended anyone but I found this humorous. Just kidding about the chapters but the book does exist. Then again, I spent my one hour of free time last night watching a replay of the SCCA Formula Atlantic National Championship at Mid-Ohio (interesting ending by the way if you have not seen it) before going back to working on my car. I am just trying to get in as much real racing before Speedvision becomes Neckcarvision. Regards, Rich

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#2. Clutch Engagement Problem - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:30:36 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Clutch Engagement Problem >>In April I installed a UUC Big Boy Clutch Stop in my stock 95. I have all the slop adjusted out and it engages almost immediately<< If I'm reading your post correctly, it sounds like the reason you are having trouble getting it into gear is that youre clutch stop is set too high...Screw it back in a few turns, and you should be ok....Dont forget, the exact point at which you feel engagment with the peddle will vary a fraction from day to day...If you have set it too 'fine', then there will be times when you need to back it off....Just try this, and I'm sure you will have solved your problem. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 35K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#3. Gas leak fix in E36M3; VPC off topic observation - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:29:55 -0800 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Gas leak fix in E36M3; VPC off topic observation Michael Lawrence and Juan Rico have experiences with this. So do I. Took LTW out for a weekend drive but consumed fuel way too fast. Parked car in upward sloping driveway, front up rear down. Came back out 5 minutes later and found fuel running behind the car that had come off the top of the fuel tank. In my case: Take off rear seat cushion. 2 oval covers. Took off passenger side oval cover and hose is loose on plastic nipple. Clamp loose and useless. Is a one time, non "screw and groove" clamp. Replaced with a good screw and groove clamp and no problems since. I think the same type of clamp is used under the drivers side oval cover. Easy to take off so just take it off and check. Replace all those clamps with good ones and that should do. It did for me. I think sometime in 95 the fuel line and fuel sensor configuration in the rear changed because Bentleys seems to have 2 different configurations. I have not seen the differences personally and I don't know if this affects the fuel hose and clamp problem but is something for thought. Bob Stommel helped me with mine (hi Bob! Thanks!) when it occurred. This is a quick cheap fix. Just do it in a well ventilated area away from open flame or heat sources and watch the sparks. It amazes me how many people I have seen fill up their cars while smoking cigarettes or cigars. The subtle forces of Darwin at work. Unfortunately others are usually at the gas stations as well. Don't these people understand that it is the fumes that explode??? Liquid gas burns, fumes explode! Sorry for the rant. Regards, Marc 95M3CSL Side note re M cars and VPC The M cars that come direct off the boat from Germany to the BMW VPC (vehicle preparation center) have "break in oil" in them for the trip and for the various short starts and drives around the VPC. Near the end of the process at the VPC the break in oil is sucked out of the car and for cars with M3 engines (M3, Mcoupe, Mroadster) they put in Castrol full synthetic 10W60 oil. For M5 engine cars (M5, Z8) they put in BMW branded oil 10W30 I believe. I have no idea if they did any of this with the E36M3 cars. The guy was actually taking the cap off of the quart bottles of oil to put in the cars by hand.

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Engagement Problem - from milvid
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:35:35 -0600 From: "milvid" <milvid@n1.nalo.nola.navy.mil> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Engagement Problem I have the clutch stop extended to the point that when the clutch pedal is depressed to the stop it has just disengaged. There might be a centimeter of play when the clutch is totally disengaged. 95% of the time it works flawlessly but the times I have problems it just shows up stays like that for a few hours to a day and then goes away. There is no gradual change. Ken P.S. The weather has been excellent and looks to continue through the Thanksgiving holiday. -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:40:32 -0800 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Engagement Problem Ok, when you say you have all the slop adjusted out. What exactly do you mean, is that meaning the clutch stop is fully extend so the pedal stops before it gets sloppy? What it sounds like to me, is that you have the stop too far out and the clutch is not engaging completely. I would screw it all the way in or take it out completely to test the car, if it stops slipping, that is your problem. Hopefully not the clutch. Hows the weather in the Big Easy? hope to be there friday Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "milvid" <milvid@n1.nalo.nola.navy.mil> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 10:29 AM Subject: [E36M3] Clutch Engagement Problem > Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 12:25:19 -0600 > From: "milvid" <milvid@n1.nalo.nola.navy.mil> > Subject: Clutch Engagement Problem > > > In April I installed a UUC Big Boy Clutch Stop in my stock 95. I have > all the slop adjusted out and it engages almost immediately. Most of > the time it works fine but three times I have had trouble engaging > first, and second and third to a lesser extent. If I am stopped on a > level grade and put the stick up into the first gear detent the car will > actually move forward slightly and then I have to force it in. The car > has only been a daily driver since installation and I can't find any > physical difference in the clutch pedal when this happens. Any thoughts > would be appreciated. > > Ken Milvid > '95 Cosmos > > LT Ken Milvid > Plans and Training > Navy Air Logistics Office > 4400 Dauphine St. > New Orleans, LA 70146 > Comm. (504)678-6502 DSN 678-6502 mailto:milvid@n1.nalo.nola.navy.mil > <mailto:milvid@n1.nalo.nola.navy.mil>

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Speaking of SMGII and Launch Control - from Heckendorf, David
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:47:27 -0700 From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Speaking of SMGII and Launch Control Rumors being what they are, here's other information: According to the BMW USA website (which of course is always subject to change) they say: Two shift modes: Sequential and Automated In both Sequential and Automated modes, the driver has a choice of five DRIVELOGIC programs, ranging from comfort to sporty http://build.bmwusa.com/yourbmw/detail/mseries/0793.htm The following is the BMW AG details on the SMG, check the links at the bottom left for Sequential and Automated modes. http://www.bmw.com/bmwe/special/smg/main.html Dave -----Original Message----- Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:41:22 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Speaking of SMGII and Launch Control Most of the rumors (unfortunately, that's all any of these statements can be until the SMG actually arrives here) I've read have stated that BMW will have S6 available in the US, but with no launch control. Hesitant Member of The Rumor Mill, Jonathan L. >From: "Heckendorf, David" <DHeckendorf@broadband.att.com> > >The only problem BMW NA has is that they are advertising .080 second shifts >as being possible with the SMG II; but, according to the BMW AG website, >shifts that fast are only available in S6 (along with Launch Control >starts). Sounds like false advertising unless they've made S5 in the US >(S6 >supposedly isn't even a option, even w/o Launch Control) have the .080 >second shifting properties of S6 in Europe.

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#6. Re: gas leak - from Sean Silva
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 15:55 -0500 From: "Sean Silva" <sean.silva@crbard.com> Subject: Re: gas leak Juan, I recently suffered a similar problem where my M (70k miles) dumped about 7 gallons of gas in 1.5 miles. Also, it only leaked when running. The problem was that the "feed" hose attached to the top of the fuel pump (under the rear passenger-side seat) h ad backed off substantially and the fuel pump was shooting fuel around the bottom of my car. Strange thing was that the top of the fuel pump cover was dry and dirty (ie the excessive amounts of fuel being sprayed in the area hadn't cleaned it which mad e me think that this wasn't where the leak was). The fix was to pull the hose completely off the fuel pump, pull of the old hose clamp, put on a new hose clamp, press the hose as far on as it seems willing to go, and tighten up the new hose clamp well. Not a bit of trouble since. Hope this helps you. Sean Silva

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#7. Deteriorating Fuel System Hoses - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 21:50:52 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Deteriorating Fuel System Hoses I was reading about fuels, additives, etc., on the ChevronTexaco website: http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/ (Excellent information about a variety of topics) and ran across this Q&A: http://www.chevron.com/prodserv/fuels/bulletin/motorgas/questions.shtml Specifically, the question and answer: Q: Why did Chevron put a warning label on its dispensers when it introduced RFG in California? A: The label warned the owners of older or high-mileage vehicles that testing indicated that California RFG may cause some fuel system parts, particularly those older or worn fuel system parts in a very small percentage of older or high-mileage vehicles, to fail. The parts of concern were parts containing elastomers — synthetic rubber- like materials — like 'O'-rings, hoses, valves and diaphragms. Chevron did not expect RFG to "attack" or otherwise damage the parts. Our concern arose because the properties of RFG differ somewhat from those of conventional gasoline and as some older elastomers tried to adjust to the property change, leaks or other failures might occur. When RFG reached the market place, we learned that the concern was not justified. There is no credible evidence that fuel system leaks or vehicle fires increased after RFG was introduced. After reading the recent list postings about fuel lines deteriorating and spilling fuel onto the top of the tank, I'm wondering if this is credible evidence that RFG caused the problem. -rb _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Gas leak fix in E36M3: Thanks! - from Juan Rico
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 14:16:46 -0800 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Gas leak fix in E36M3: Thanks! Michael, Marc, Sean and all who responded, Thanks so much for the info. You guys nailed it. The hose had become loose. Apparently it had been leaking slightly for over a week before it decided to finally let loose yesterday. I recently changed to 100 octane unleaded gas, and I was worried that this might have been the culprit since, as the urban legend goes, this type of gas chews up rubber hoses, or so they say. Time to put some serious thought into this, though. Everybody else, if you start smelling gas, LOOK UNDER THE REAR PASSENGER SEAT! And the car is ready... ;) Juan. (95///M Ready for another 140K trouble-free miles...) ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#9. Intake Air Temperature Sensor (IAT) - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 17:39:59 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Intake Air Temperature Sensor (IAT) Does anybody know, in OBDII M3s, or OBDII cars in general, does the signal that the IAT sensor supplies to the DME result in a retardation of the timing, if the reading is relatively high? In other words, we all know that if high ambient temps, fuel conditions, and other factors cause a slight amount of detonation, the knock sensor will retard timing. In this scenario, its the detonation that is the trigger for the timing retard...What about the readings provided by the IAT sensor? Dont those also result in a timing retard under certain conditions? --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 35K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#10. Autopower Bars - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 22:40:36 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Autopower Bars Anyone have an opinion (or have) their racerollbar for our car. Just wanted to get an opinion on it. I am thinking about picking up a bolt in with the removable crossbrace and harness bar. Just for the occasional times I do time trials (don't feel safe tracking the car without a bar whatsoever). On a sidenote anyone have a used one for sale in SOCAL? Mark 95 ///M3 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp

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