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#1. Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 00:13:14 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. From my understanding the Schrick cams touch the lift very little. They are more aggressive on the duration side of things. I talked to several guys who all recommend not to go with TI anything. Just run the factory stuff. You might want to consider replacing the retainers with the 96+ retainers which have better hardening. Mark From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Reply-To: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:39:19 -0600 Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. Wow! You notice any loss of power/driveability? Need a new chip? Are Ti valve springs recommended for the kit? Just a Q.. is the euro HFM useful w/out intake, or no? I kind of want to retain the stock airbox for the stealth sound, but wouldn't mind bigger injectors/chip/hfm/cams.. - reid > So the saying goes, and so most of us on this list feel. Having owned my > '95 M3 for a little over a year, I got used to the power from the > intake/HFM/chip, and wanted more. After careful consideration, I opted for > the Eurosport cam/injectors/chip combo. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 18:49:42 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. I would like to know the answer to this too. Especially, regarding power/torque in the low RMP range. The typical behavior for cams w/ more lift and duration is that you loose torque at the low end. How is your idle? BTW, what month was your '95 made? I wonder if my cams are timed incorrectly as well. Thanks, Mike -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:35:18 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. Wow! You notice any loss of power/driveability? Need a new chip? Are Ti valve springs recommended for the kit? Just a Q.. is the euro HFM useful w/out intake, or no? I kind of want to retain the stock airbox for the stealth sound, but wouldn't mind bigger injectors/chip/hfm/cams.. - reid > So the saying goes, and so most of us on this list feel. Having owned > my '95 M3 for a little over a year, I got used to the power from the > intake/HFM/chip, and wanted more. After careful consideration, I > opted for the Eurosport cam/injectors/chip combo. _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:08:31 -0800 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. on 11/21/01 3:39 PM, Reid Conti at reid@conti.net wrote: > Wow! You notice any loss of power/driveability? Need a new chip? Are Ti > valve springs recommended for the kit? Because of how horribly out of alignment my cams were, installing the new cams actually smoothed out my idle. Because these cams are pretty mild, there is no loss in driveability. Yes you need a new chip, but the kit includes it. I did not change the retainers or anything else while I was in there. The only thing that was changed were the cams > Just a Q.. is the euro HFM useful w/out intake, or no? I kind of want to > retain the stock airbox for the stealth sound, but wouldn't mind bigger > injectors/chip/hfm/cams.. This car had the Dinan Euro Airbox when I bought it, but I swapped it for a cone-style intake. There wasn't a huge difference. One thing to note -- the cams raised the volume on the car considerably. I can't explain why this would be, but my ears don't lie. I thought it was an exhaust issue, so I changed to a quieter exhaust, but I have since learned that it's intake growl. The only real fix for this is to go to an airbox (which I don't plan). -peterg
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:09:56 -0800 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. on 11/21/01 4:59 PM, Michael Stembera at m_stembera@yahoo.com wrote: > low RMP range. The typical behavior for cams w/ more lift and duration > is that you > loose torque at the low end. How is your idle? No noticeable loss in torque. I think this is offset by the larger injectors, which help add power throughout the band. > BTW, what month was your '95 made? I wonder if my cams are timed > incorrectly as well. My car is a 7/94 production date. -p
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#5. Re: Cam alignment TSB - from Chip Mitchell
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Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 21:30:08 -0500 From: "Chip Mitchell" <chipm@arches.uga.edu> Subject: Re: Cam alignment TSB Wow, thats scary. I have a pretty early car (4/94) and I don't have any paperwork indicating that the cams have ever been looked at. Does anyone have a copy of this TSB or have any idea what production dates it applies to? ChipM >-------------------- 8 -------------------- >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 15:17:26 -0800 >From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> >Subject: Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. > >Seems that the cams, which were supposed to be set at the factory at TDC, >were both _way_ off. Like -10° and -15° respectively off. "Did the car >stumble off idle?", he asked. "Yep." "Did it run out of breath at about 6k?" >"Yep." That was why. Bill realigned the cams and took them off, droppign the >new ones in. > >Seems that there was a TSB released early on that said some of the early >E36M3's left the factory improperly aligned, putting them down on power. No >one told me or the previous owner this of course, so it sat as-is. >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 07:43:23 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - Post-Install Notes. Larger injectors should not benefit low end torque in any way. The larger injector isn't a "performance" item so much as a necessity dictated by other pieces of the system. If you increase the peak fuel requirement (by changing the A/F ratio and/or the peak air flow) beyond the limits of the injectors then you need bigger ones. The injectors are only maxed out at higher RPMs when you hit the torque peak. I think that the cam's negative impact on low end torque is mitigated by the Vanos variable valve timing and Jim's diligent coding. -Matt --- Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 17:09:56 -0800 > From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Conforti Cams for the '95 M3 - > Post-Install Notes. > > on 11/21/01 4:59 PM, Michael Stembera at > m_stembera@yahoo.com wrote: > > > low RMP range. The typical behavior for cams w/ > more lift and duration > > is that you > > loose torque at the low end. How is your idle? > > No noticeable loss in torque. I think this is > offset by the larger > injectors, which help add power throughout the band. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
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#7. More on VANOS Noise - from Roy Kao
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 17:53:54 -0500 From: "Roy Kao" <bimmerphile@hotmail.com> Subject: More on VANOS Noise Well, I brought the car to the dealer today and they took it in right away, so I can't complain about their service. Here's what's happened so far: they have ruled out the VANOS as the cause and they've changed the water pump, a tensioner (not sure which one but I assume the lower pulley tensioner), and a few belts. The noise persists, though it's now better. They've spent a good seven hours on it so far and are keeping the car overnight, not a good sign. I'm afraid to see the labor bill now, since it's about 500 miles (800 kms) past the warranty limit; I really hope they won't ding me for the whole darned thing!! I will keep the digest abreast of developments. In the meantime, they've provide me with a demo Z3 3.0. Nice little car, good decent power compared to the 3.2 in the M3, but the cowl shake and the wind noise is unbearable. The drive-by-wire throttle takes a bit to get used to, there's the slightest of lag between depressing the pedal and response from the engine. I guess no electronics can match the intimacy and response of a good mechanical design. Roy '99 M3/2...sick and in the shop for the night _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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#8. Re: [E36M3] VANOS Noise?? - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:32:48 -0500 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispitude@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] VANOS Noise?? At 05:29 PM 11/21/2001 -0600, Roy Kao wrote: >I began noticing a noise coming from the engine just behind the radiator >today. It sounds like a box of bolts being rattled around and quite >frankly, makes the car sound like a diesel. Is this a noise from the >VANOS mechanism? I am bringing the car to the dealer for them to take a >quick listen but any input on the topic would be greatly >appreciated. BTW, the car just breached that magic 50,000 miles (80,000 >kms) mark. Roy, I have this same noise. Hopefully in the next week or two, my 95 M3 with 112k miles will have the VANOS unit replaced, as well as a timing chain tensioner or two. That should cure the noise. With the mileage and the fact that the tensioners tend to be a weak spot, I don't mind doing both items for reliability's sake. - Chris
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#9. F6 again - arghh! - from tristar500@mac.com
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Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2001 20:44:39 -0600 From: tristar500@mac.com Subject: F6 again - arghh! My check engine light has returned and Peake reader says: F6 Secondary Air System Flow Too Low, Cyl #4-6 I thought I had it taken care of by cutting off the hard end of the vacum line that goes into the check valve. Does anyone have any more info on how the secondary air system is supposed to work? For example, when and why does the air pump come on? The info in the Bentley book is very poor re: secondary air. thanks! Dave '96 M3 '84 Reynard SF http://homepage.mac.com/reynardthefox
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#10. Tire Advice - from Robert Exconde
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Date: Fri, 23 Nov 2001 06:46:25 +0000 From: "Robert Exconde" <99e36M3@exconde.com> Subject: Tire Advice As a new owner of an M3, I have never really gone tire shopping... Is the winter the best time to buy tires? Ed suggested S02/S03s but at the time they were $250. Now they are 186/188, respectively. Are the prices the cheapest now? When do the prices go back up. As it stands now, if I order now its a savings of over $70/wheel. What is the latest that I should wait? R