E36M3 #1830

Wednesday, December 05, 2001 19:49:27

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Corner Balancing/Coil Over Post Install - from Ron Katona
#2. changing RSMs with shock - from j.demartino@us.qiagen.com
#3. Re: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock - from Brian Terril
#4. Re: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock - from Chester Wong
#5. RE: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from andy radin
#6. Re: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from NickG
#7. Boost increase - from Paul Elliott
#8. FS: 1999 SCed M3 - from Krit Poonsirivong
#9. Re: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from Andy Radin
#10. ] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from Paul Elliott

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: Corner Balancing/Coil Over Post Install - from Ron Katona
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:30:41 -0500 From: "Ron Katona" <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Corner Balancing/Coil Over Post Install Brian Terril wrote: > The rear weel arch is slung lower than the front wheel arch. You'd get some > pretty serious front rake if you did this, and your weight would go too far > to the front. No, you don't make that measurement equal; you use it as a baseline. Most stock M3s are 14" from wheel arch to wheel center up front and 13" in the rear. If you want to lower the car 1", then you go to 13" and 12". Of course, you have to baseline your particular car first. This measurement is easier for most people than getting under the car to a fixed suspension point on the chassis and actually measuring ride height to the ground. It's also not effected by changing wheel/tire sizes or tire pressure meaning it's the most stable measurement of ride height available. The big thing that will effect it is if the ground isn't level. You cannot alter the front/rear and left/right weight distribution with ride height adjustments (within realistic adjustments of the typical coil-over). You can only adjust cross weight with the spring perches. To alter F/R or L/R distribution means physically moving (or removing) weight around the car. -- Ron Katona

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#2. changing RSMs with shock - from j.demartino@us.qiagen.com
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:35:27 +0100 From: j.demartino@us.qiagen.com Subject: changing RSMs with shock If I am having a rear shock replaced, is there any additional labor involved to change the rear shock mount? I ask this because I am having a rear shock replaced by the dealer under warranty. I asked for them to replace the RSM while they were at it. I want to have the appropriate information in case they they charge me with additional labor when I pick it up. Thanks, John John DeMartino QIAGEN Inc. Product Manager Large Scale Plasmid/UP100/Cloning Phone: 800-426-8157, ext. 23507 Fax: 661-702-3652 j.demartino@us.qiagen.com www.qiagen.com QIAGEN. Dedicated to Your Success.

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#3. Re: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock - from Brian Terril
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:03:48 -0800 From: "Brian Terril" <bterril@twistedparity.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock The RSM should take them MAYBE 2 minutes more than replacing just the shock, but I'd be surprised if they tried replacing the shock without taking the RSM out, not that it can't be done. It shouldn't cost you any extra in labor. BDT ----- Original Message ----- From: <j.demartino@us.qiagen.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock > Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:35:27 +0100 > From: j.demartino@us.qiagen.com > Subject: changing RSMs with shock > > > If I am having a rear shock replaced, is there any additional labor > involved to change the rear shock mount? I ask this because I am having > a rear shock replaced by the dealer under warranty. I asked for them to > replace the RSM while they were at it. I want to have the appropriate > information in case they they charge me with additional labor when I > pick it up. > > Thanks, > > John > > John DeMartino > QIAGEN Inc. > Product Manager > Large Scale Plasmid/UP100/Cloning > Phone: 800-426-8157, ext. 23507 > Fax: 661-702-3652 > j.demartino@us.qiagen.com > > www.qiagen.com > QIAGEN. Dedicated to Your Success. > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:09:35 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] changing RSMs with shock Well, it depends on how the dealer tech removes the rear shocks. The stupid way would be to remove the shock screw while leaving the rear shock mount in place. The easier way of doing things is to unbolt the rear shock mount with the rear shocks still in place. Then you can remove the shock and replace. Using this procedure, replacing the RSM is a no brainer. HTH, Chester --- j.demartino@us.qiagen.com wrote: > If I am having a rear shock replaced, is there any additional labor > involved to change the rear shock mount? I ask this because I am having > a rear shock replaced by the dealer under warranty. I asked for them to > replace the RSM while they were at it. I want to have the appropriate > information in case they they charge me with additional labor when I > pick it up. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from andy radin
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:26:39 -0800 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? >> One thing that's annoying is, the trip computer doesn't work >> anymore after >> installing the higher-rate injectors. It thinks I'm getting >> 30+mpg. :-( >You can fix this. > >Go to: >http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/obc.html > >and change the "Correction Factor" in the Hidden Codes. the correction factor doesn't have enough range to account for different injectors. it's a 4 digit number, but you can't actually set it anywhere between 0001 and 9999. I think it won't accept less than 800 or more than 1200. double check me on that though. the answer is probably a fixed op-amp circuit on the line from the ECU to the OBC, to increase the voltage by the same ratio as the injectors flow capacity. I'm guessing this is what Dinan packages and sells for $400 to fix this problem. andy r. 98 m3/2

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from NickG
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Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:56:53 -0500 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? The signal that goes from the DME to the OBC (and IC) for fuel consumption is not a simple voltage function. It is a varying pulsewidth signal. It represents the injector on-time, thus, behaves accordingly. The pulse becomes wider as more fuel is sprayed. (It may also vary with RPM, I don't remember.) Nick '95 M3 turbo > the answer is probably a fixed op-amp circuit on the line from the ECU to > the OBC, to increase the voltage by the same ratio as the injectors flow > capacity. I'm guessing this is what Dinan packages and sells for $400 to > fix this problem. > > andy r. > 98 m3/2

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#7. Boost increase - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:42:02 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Boost increase I know there must be other non intercooled SC M3 owners out there who have wondered what happens if you want more boost....Dinan tells 'Dont Do It'! But can you? I think, with certain precautions, you definitely can...My precaution was installing an Aquamist water/alcohol injection system, courtesy of AA. Today, we added a VDO boost gauge, and, an inch larger crank drive pulley, courtesy of RMS. No software changes. Results: I know most Dinan kits are making 6 psi at redline...for some reason, mine was reading 7.5-8 psi at redline...What with the inch larger drive pulley? It now registers 11 psi at redline. It was over 70 degrees today, and the engine was HOT....And, strong pulls to redline produced zero detonation. No CE lights....It felt as solid and bulletproof as it did before, only its making 3 more psi...I'm estimating about 400 crank HP. As we know, but seems more emphasized with this new boost, SCs do all their business up high...It continually floors me that at 3500 psi, youre making only about 2.25 psi....When you double the rpms, you triple the boost, so that at 7K near redline, its producing 11 psi...But in order to register it, you need to do a strong pull, and not let up til 7K...that's when the needle hits 11 psi briefly...Actually, although I didnt hit rev limiter and shut down at 7K instead of 7.2K, it probably would have hit 12 at rev limiter. Needless to say, I was pleased that there was no ill effects of the extra boost...I believe the Dinan software is programmed very rich at hi load, in an effort to cool the engine to avoid knock...With the extra boost, what was rich is probably now not. But, with the winjection, it isnt required, and more power is the result....Timing feels right too...I'm very pleased with the result. So if anyone's interested, I believe a bit of extra boost IS possible on these systems, but take some precautions first... --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#8. FS: 1999 SCed M3 - from Krit Poonsirivong
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:39:55 -0800 (PST) From: Krit Poonsirivong <m3bimmer@yahoo.com> Subject: FS: 1999 SCed M3 Hi, Please visit this link for more information: http://www.geocities.com/m3bimmer/M3_sale.html and email me if you are interested. Thanks, Krit __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from Andy Radin
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Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:44:11 -0800 From: Andy Radin <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? ah, crap. there are lots of PWM chips out there - there might be one that would multiply a pulse interval by a fixed amount. still might only take $10 in parts. any EEs here want to suggest some chips for me to prototype with? andy r. > The signal that goes from the DME to the OBC (and IC) for fuel consumption > is not a simple voltage function. It is a varying pulsewidth signal. It > represents the injector on-time, thus, behaves accordingly. The pulse > becomes wider as more fuel is sprayed. (It may also vary with RPM, I don't > remember.) > > Nick > '95 M3 turbo > > > the answer is probably a fixed op-amp circuit on the line from the ECU to > > the OBC, to increase the voltage by the same ratio as the injectors flow > > capacity. I'm guessing this is what Dinan packages and sells for $400 to > > fix this problem.

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#10. ] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:51:28 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: ] Eurosport OBDII Cam Kit gas mileage?? >>One thing that's annoying is, the trip computer doesn't work anymore after installing the higher-rate injectors. It thinks I'm getting 30+mpg. :-(<< So THAT'S what's going on! I noticed that after they installed my Dinan SC kit, the immediate mode mpg was way off....Way over reporting mileage...I thought it was a vacuum issue or something...Of course, its reading the injectors...And when we go to 24lb injectors, this is what happens...can you imagine what it would read if we went to 30 lb injectors? We'd see 50 mpg while standing still!! :--) Trust me, you'll get used to not using that silly thing anyway....They should have put an oil temp or exhaust gas temp gage in their instead anyhow. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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