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#1. Re: [E36M3] cold start squeak - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:13:02 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] cold start squeak Time to change the belts. My dealer insisted that the belts were fine. Of course, by the time I got the car to the dealer (50 miles), the belts were hot...lol. After watching the cam removal and installation and having to remove the VANOS to do so, I now know why my belts were squeaking after I had my VANOS serviced. They need to disconnect the banjo bolt of the pressure line to the VANOS. When they do that, there's a great chance that the oil drips a bit...all over the crank pulley. Guess what you get when that happens? Trust me, replace the belts and all will be fine. Chester > as the weather has been getting colder here, i've noticed a little > squeak when starting my 98 sedan. > > i could try to describe it, but there's no substitute for hearing it: > > http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/edsarkiss/lst?.dir=/m3 > > click on "m3_squeak" to hear the sound. > > i mounted two mics (stereo) under the car, on either side of the motor. > what you hear in the right speaker would be emanating from the > driver's side of the car. > > the sound only lasts for a couple of seconds, and only when i blip the > throttle. in this case, i started the car, did several blips up to > 2000 RPM until the sound disappeared, at which point i shut the motor > off. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#2. RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question - from Juan Rico
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:17:56 -0800 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question Does anybody have the part# handy for this? I'm going by the dealership today and might pick these up... Juan. -----Original Message----- From: Bob Lenarcik [mailto:lenarcik@pacbell.net] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 10:59 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2001 22:51:10 -0800 From: Bob Lenarcik <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: Front strut bearing question Ron, Crap. I was afraid of that - and I just got everything ready to bolt into the car. The original struts were pretty shot (79k miles) and after looking at the bearings, I was hoping that I can get some more miles from them. I figured I would eventually end up with fully adjustable KMACs or the TMS Camber plates - for the price difference over stock replacements, I might as well do it now. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:03 PM To: lenarcik@pacbell.net Cc: e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: Front strut bearing question Bob, It's advisable to replace the upper strut bearings when replacing struts, especially if the original equipment struts have lots of miles on them. Since you need to disassemble the strut to replace the damper, it's the best time to replace the bearing. Think of the extra work (or $$ for labor) to go in just to replace the bearings in a year or so? Especially if you're putting Bilsteins in your car, since they tend to last nearly forever! ....snip... -rb ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#3. RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:24:02 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question For '95M3s: 31 33 2 228 345 (you need 2) 31 31 2 489 795 (these are the reinforcement plates that came with the 3.2s) For 3.2L M3s: 31 33 2 227 897 (need 1) 31 33 2 227 898 (need 1) I also hear that if you want a little extra negative camber, that the 3.2s can use the '95 ones. So, they are normally offset outwards. Swapping from left ro right would cause a drastic change, but using the non-offset ones would yield a less drastic change. Chester --- Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> wrote: > Does anybody have the part# handy for this? > I'm going by the dealership today and might pick these up... ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:30:39 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question Bob Lenarcik <lenarcik@pacbell.net> wrote: > > Ron, > > Crap. I was afraid of that - and I just got everything ready to bolt > into the car. The original struts were pretty shot (79k miles) and after > looking at the bearings, I was hoping that I can get some more miles > from them. I figured I would eventually end up with fully adjustable > KMACs or the TMS Camber plates - for the price difference over stock > replacements, I might as well do it now. Bob, I bet your uppers strut bearings are fine. I'm yet to hear of any stock E30/E36 upper strut bearings going bad on our cars. Even on high milage cars. I left mine in place when I was messing with my E30 ages ago. 200+K miles later (100K of them with Bilstein's) they are still solid. However, the outside edges of my E36 M3 plates were somewhat bent when I replaced them with KMACs at 50K miles. It was not effecting the alignment or the handling of the car, but I was still glad to get rid of them. But if yours look OK there is probably no reason to spend money on replacements. If you do decide to replace them, do consider getting adjustable aftermarket camber plates. Urethane enclosed KMACs work and last well on the street but only offer up to -3 degrees of camber for the track. Depending on who you listen to, the race plates with spherical bearings will either last forever or at most 10K pothole infested street miles. KMACs (as well as other adjustable plates?) and the '96+ strut tower reinforcement sleeves are mutually exclusive. If you decide to stick with original plates consider adding the sleeves (~$20 from the dealer) to prevent any damage to the front strut tower. YMMV, alex f -----Original Message----- From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 10, 2001 7:03 PM To: lenarcik@pacbell.net Cc: e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: Front strut bearing question Bob, It's advisable to replace the upper strut bearings when replacing struts, especially if the original equipment struts have lots of miles on them. Since you need to disassemble the strut to replace the damper, it's the best time to replace the bearing. Think of the extra work (or $$ for labor) to go in just to replace the bearings in a year or so? Especially if you're putting Bilsteins in your car, since they tend to last nearly forever! ....snip... -rb
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#5. RE: Front strut bearing question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:47:26 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Front strut bearing question I have a set of the reinforcement plates if anyone is interested. Brand new, never mounted. Chester > reinforcement sleeves are mutually exclusive. If you decide to stick with > original plates consider adding the sleeves (~$20 from the dealer) to > prevent any damage to the front strut tower. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#6. RE: Front strut bearing question - from Berney, Butch
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:50:11 -0800 From: "Berney, Butch" <butch.berney@lamrc.com> Subject: RE: Front strut bearing question Bob, Just make sure you get the right M3 strut bearing. The 96 - on M3 bearing is 1/4" taller, and adds a slight amount of positive camber compared to the 95 M3 bearing. The 96 struts compensate for this, but if you put 96 bearings on 95 struts, your alignment guy will need some spacers between the strut and the steering arm to get the camber right, not to mention that you will be 1/4" taller in the front. (ask me how I know...) Not an insurmountable detail, but if I were to do it again, I would have insisted that my parts supplier take back the 96 bearing and send the 95 that I asked for. He probably would have if I had insisted, but this was info that I did not know at the time. Live and learn :-) Good luck, Butch 94 325is with M suspension (mostly)...coming soon, new steering rack and powerflex trailing arm bushings
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 12:15:58 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question "Berney, Butch" <butch.berney@lamrc.com> wrote: > > Bob, > > Just make sure you get the right M3 strut bearing. The 96 - on M3 bearing is > 1/4" taller, and adds a slight amount of positive camber compared to the 95 > M3 bearing. The 96 struts compensate for this, but if you put 96 bearings on > 95 struts, your alignment guy will need some spacers between the strut and > the steering arm to get the camber right, not to mention that you will be > 1/4" taller in the front. (ask me how I know...) Butch, Alternatively, you could have swapped 96 strut bearings from side to side and gained -0.5 degree of negative camber (instead of getting +0.5 degrees with properly installed 96 strut bearings on a 95 car). alex f
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#8.E36 ITS Race Car - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 14:22:20 -0500 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: <WTB> E36 ITS Race Car OK gang, I have the tow vehicle... I have the trailer....(looking at one that I have a deposit on this weekend)... I have the garage to store and work on it... So, now I am looking for a well maintained E36 ITS race car (with spare parts if available) for sale... But any car will be considered... Willing to travel anywhere for the right car and price. Thanks for any leads or information, Chris T. PS. I check the usual Turner Motorsport, The Racer's Network, the back of the Roundel, the back of the SCCA mag ads
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#9. RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question - from Berney, Butch
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:42:41 -0800 From: "Berney, Butch" <butch.berney@lamrc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question Good point Alex. I thought about doing that before, but I thought the number was more like 2 degrees than 0.5 degrees. If it really is that small, then swapping sides is the way to go. When I change back to the M3 Bilsteins (H&R Cup kit is installed now) I will do that, and take out the spacers. Thanks for the info :-) Butch -----Original Message----- From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com [mailto:alex.fadeev@verizon.com] Butch, Alternatively, you could have swapped 96 strut bearings from side to side and gained -0.5 degree of negative camber (instead of getting +0.5 degrees with properly installed 96 strut bearings on a 95 car). alex f
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#10. RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 11:52:34 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Front strut bearing question I seem to recall that swapping from left to right is a drastic change as well. Chester --- "Berney, Butch" <butch.berney@lamrc.com> wrote: > Good point Alex. I thought about doing that before, but I thought the number > was more like 2 degrees than 0.5 degrees. If it really is that small, then > swapping sides is the way to go. When I change back to the M3 Bilsteins (H&R > Cup kit is installed now) I will do that, and take out the spacers. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com