E36M3 #1845

Wednesday, December 12, 2001 20:09:31

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#1. Anybody out there - from Jay
#2. [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#3. Re: where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential - from Peter Fanning
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question - from Bob Lenarcik
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question - from Chester Wong
#6. FS: Rear Wing w/LED Brake Light - from Chris Brown
#7. where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential - from Dorffer, Rich
#8. '95 M3 FS $19995 - from eevans@planetc.com
#9. Chip, Intake, or Both? - from Ken Dobyns
#10. where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential - from Paul Elliott

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#1. Anybody out there - from Jay
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:21:27 -0800 From: jay@pactitle.com (Jay) Subject: Anybody out there Just wondered if the sight was down. Have not got a post in days. Jay Johnson 95M3/sharked&intaked

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#2. [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:40:16 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> writes: > The additional caster of the 96+ M3 comes from the control arms, which pull > the strut about 10 mm forward at the bottom. > > There's lots of opportunity to mix, match - and screw up! - the 95 and 96+ > parts. I see! I didn't think the strut hats had anything to do with changing the caster on '96+ M3's. Has anybody tried putting the '96+ control arms on a '95 M3? Neil - It sounds like you might have had some unwitting experience with changing the control arms. ;-) I have to admit my '95 M3 is a chore to drive on the highway. I've got the equivalent of 245 R-compound tires on 8.5" rims on the front. It has HEAVY steering feel. My M3 follows every little dip and valley in the road. I have to constantly steer it back to straight ahead. I wonder if adding a little more caster might give my M3 a more self-centering steering? Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas

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#3. Re: where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential - from Peter Fanning
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:54:12 -0800 From: Peter Fanning <p.fanning@verizon.net> Subject: Re: where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential The only place I could find one was Snap-On or Ultimate Garage. I bought mine form Ultimate Garage, easy choice. No local outfits had one. Peter Fanning '98 M3/4 At 04:28 PM 12/12/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 16:01:27 EST >From: Mdriver13@aol.com >Subject: where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential > > >Group, > >Where is the best place to get a 14mm half inch socket for the >differential fill/drain plugs? I currently use a 14mm allen wrench, but >would like to torque the drain plug for security. > >TIA, > >Bob Gill >97 ///M3 coupe >Philly Region SCCA >AS Champion 1997 & 2000 >BSP Champion 2001

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:58:00 -0800 From: "Bob Lenarcik" <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question However, I learned something about the differences between the 95 and 96+ with respect to control arms when I was ordering new bushings: the control arm in the 96+ has the ball joint offset 10mm to the rear relative to the 95 control arm. The 95 uses an offset control arm bushing while the 96+ uses a concentric bushing which puts the position of the strut bottom about the same for both cars. I also learned that the aluminum e30 M3 lower control arm dimensions are the same as the 95 M3 control arms (both also use an offset bushing). If one wanted to use the lighter arm in a 96+ M3, you will need to replace the stock bushings with offset bushings to retain stock caster. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 2:19 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:10:58 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Front strut bearing question on 12/12/01 2:18 PM, LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: <snipped much good info> > What about caster? Ahh. Caster is identical or at least so close > between the '95 and '96+ strut bearings that it is meaningless. > Changing the caster a fraction of a degree is not going to be > noticeable. The additional caster of the 96+ M3 comes from the control arms, which pull the strut about 10 mm forward at the bottom. There's lots of opportunity to mix, match - and screw up! - the 95 and 96+ parts. Neil 96 M3

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 14:58:20 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Front strut bearing question Matt Malfa stated before (http://www.bmw-m.net/digest/archive%5F2001%5F11%20digest%201742%2D1818/digest1755.htm#5) that the '95M3 control arm ball joints were 10mm further back. If you wish to use '95M3 control arms on a '96+ car (e.g. aluminum control arms from the E30), you'll have to use an eccentric bushing. At least that's my understanding of how everything works. I'll know more when I work on some front suspension this weekend and see how everything relates to each other. Still, the main point of using the '95 strut bearings on a '96+ car to add a little more negative camber seems sound, no? You're moving the top of the strut inwards, not forwards nor backwards. Chester > I see! I didn't think the strut hats had anything to do with changing the > caster on '96+ M3's. > > Has anybody tried putting the '96+ control arms on a '95 M3? Neil - It > sounds like you might have had some unwitting experience with changing the > control arms. ;-) > > I have to admit my '95 M3 is a chore to drive on the highway. I've got the > equivalent of 245 R-compound tires on 8.5" rims on the front. It has HEAVY > steering feel. My M3 follows every little dip and valley in the road. I > have to constantly steer it back to straight ahead. I wonder if adding a > little more caster might give my M3 a more self-centering steering? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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#6. FS: Rear Wing w/LED Brake Light - from Chris Brown
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:13:40 -0500 From: "Chris Brown" <ChrisB@Drextec.com> Subject: FS: Rear Wing w/LED Brake Light I just dredged this up in the garage, make a nice x-mas present! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=599152216 <http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=599152216> Cheers – Chris

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#7. where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 18:27:03 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential Try Steve D. at the Ultimategarage.com (Facom D107-14 for 14mm and D107-17 for 17mm) or Snap-On (CPT110A for 17mm, can't seem to find the 14mm so I am not sure they have it or not). Last time I was at Sears, they no longer had the socket in their line-up (even via special order) but YMMV. You can fabricate your own but I found the cost of the socket and a 14mm Allen to be as much as buying the proper socket from Steve D. Also, clearance could be an issue as well with a fabricated socket. Best regards, Rich

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#8. '95 M3 FS $19995 - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 19:06:20 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: '95 M3 FS $19995 Red/Black 5 speed Sunroof 76K 6 Disc Changer Rear spoiler Southern car Immaculate Flawless paint Garaged N/S $19995.00 Call 865-694-3088 Knoxville, TN 37919 Maintained by East TN BMW CCA President Evan

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#9. Chip, Intake, or Both? - from Ken Dobyns
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 17:40:10 -0800 From: Ken Dobyns <ken_d@mac.com> Subject: Chip, Intake, or Both? Hi all, I'm considering Sharkin' my '98. I wonder what the consensus of the group is as to the best choice between the traditional software update and Jim's intake system, assuming I had to pick one. Also, is the combination of the two really worth doing, compared to only the favorite piece? Thanks in advance, Ken Dobyns Portland, OR

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#10. where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2001 21:04:17 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: where to buy...14mm hex bit for differential What size is the Transmission drain plug, also a Hex bolt, I believe. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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