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#1. HID - from RacerxJLing@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:52:02 EST From: RacerxJLing@aol.com Subject: HID The advantage of the 6000k kit is that it is definitely BLUER than the 4300k...so it looks more "HID" as in the S2000/Lexus/BMW. However, these cars get this bluish effect from the stage 1 kits AND the optics of the lens housing. Stage II----> Looks more HID than stage 1 from an oncoming cars perspective Stage I-----> Looks more HID than stage II from a driver's perspective Good luck. Jeff Then what are the advantages of the 6000K conversion kit? If there is less light on the road, is it a whiter light, vs more yellow with the 4300K? Sue Kit Wetzler wrote: > Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 00:26:45 -0800 > From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> > Subject: hid > > > Anyone have a recommendation as to where I can find the best price on an > > HID conversion kit? I am interested in the 6000K version > > II.....cheapest I found so far was $540 including shipping. Thanks! > > Eww... :) The 6000K bulbs reduce the lumens that the HID kits put out by > around 25%. Yes, that's right... 1/4 less light on the road. while they > still outshine halogens, I don't think that the cool purple color would be > worth it for me. :( > > If anyone isn't persuaded by the above and upgraded and wants to sell their > old 4300K HID kit with 9006 bulbs, let me know. :) > > -kit
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#2. Re: [E36M3] speeding tickets - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:59:58 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speeding tickets I'll try to make this my last post on the topic.. > Russell, This string is starting to piss me off. It was I that said the > above and I feel the same way about radar traps... they catch the > retards going 30 over in their uncontrollable SUVs and all the other > comparatively uncontrollable cars as well as the hipo car owners that > think they have the right to speed just because their cars are fast. I > have news, it doesn't matter how quick your car is, you are subject to > the same traffic laws as everyone else is and you knew it before you > plopped down 50 large on your BMW. Or they could realize that some vehicles handle better at higher speeds than others, and ticket someone driving 80 in a Suburban before they ticket someone driving 80 in a Ferrari. This is not saying if you have a fast car you should be able to drive any speed, and it's in recognition of the fact that 120mph in a ferrari is less safe than 100mph in the same car, due to increased braking distances and closing speeds and such. But yes, we knew it before we bought our cars. > The sooner you resign yourself to accepting that the limits need to be > appropriate for the full range of drivers we share the road with... with > regard to level of car control and car performance, the sooner you will > understand why the limits are where they are. My German friends laugh at > the fact that Americans buy 400 hp cars to drive on roads with speed > limits. They say if they lived in the US they would buy the slowest most > efficient diesel pig they could find because "what's the point". This > comes from our CEO who owns a 7 series AMG and "drives 150 mph to work > every day". If you want to feel like you are going fast then either take > your car to the track or buy a '78 Mini Cooper... 60 feels like 120! I > can see their point but those of us who are track junkies have another > way of looking at things! Because they speed in Germany on roads that have speed limits, too. They don't buy fast cars because they have autobahns, they buy fast cars for the same reason everyone else does -- they're more fun and you can get away with speeding. > Speeding is not a right for you or anyone else, so don't do it and if > you get caught, pay the fine. You know the rules, you spend probably 90% > of your time on the road breaking them, you rarely get caught, but when > you do, please don't cry about it after the fact. I for one do not feel > sorry for anyone who does. People can whine about whatever they want. You want to know why this thread hasn't been met with a bunch of people saying "you sped, now pay the fine and shut up?" Because everyone here seems to be OK with speeding. And you know what? I think we have a right to whine about whatever we want. Speeding tickets for any reason, especially revenue generation, insurance premium increases, etc. When I get my ticket, I'm not going to pay up, I'm going to do everything I legally can to get out of it. Because I don't support this system, and it seems few people here do. Nobody's asking for your sympathy. Maybe I'd be more willing to pay the traffic tax if it meant my insurance went up by $10 a year like yours does, instead of the hundreds that mine does, just because of my age. Life is unfair, but people can still complain, it's just a matter of whether anyone is willing to listen :) Also, it's a matter of whether or not it's tolerated in the forum (it seems to be so far here because most of us seem to agree on the issue, but I get the feeling this thread will have to stop soon). > You will have have no problem with speed traps if you weren't speeding. Wrong, and this is the single biggest thing the police get wrong. Cops setup speed traps where it is MOST safe to speed (increase their odds of finding someone to ticket/warn -- why setup a speed trap where nobody's speeding?). They also setup their speed traps in such a way that they will catch people who are on the lookout for police. So they hide in areas that are safest to speed. In other words, the element of surprise. And surprise is what you get when you're doing 60 in a 60 across a perfectly flat, wide, dark stretch of road.. and everyone hits their brakes when they see the cop about 100 feet ahead, hiding in the darkness. Sorry, but even though everyone was doing within 5mph of the limit, nobody is going to check their speedo to make sure they're really doing the limit, and then try to remember the last speed limit sign.. the first reaction is to slow down, JUST IN CASE. That's human nature. And it pisses me off that the police try to justify parking on the shoulder in darkness to try to catch speeders where there are none and it's safe to do so anyway. And it pisses me off that we have to spend all of our time on the lookout for cops when driving 10 over, rather than devoting full attention to the road. Yes, I realize that these are choices, but they shouldn't be choices we have to make. Opinions are just that. - reid
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#3. Re: [E36M3] speeding tickets - from Jay G
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 08:56:33 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speeding tickets hey gruppe...i wanst gonna chime in to this thread, but i just have to say that speeding tickets are hard to avoid with BMWs...they feel so stable and secure, that the only indicator of speed is the speedometer...not like my former CJ-7 that would flex the hard top, and start to shake and shimmy once you hit 65 :) ...a friend with a late model honda civic cant believe that i go 115mph on the track, because she states her car "feels like it'll fall apart at 80"...and once, i had to tell my GF to slow it down a little, because she was going 85-90...she couldnt believe that she was going that fast... j.demartino@us.qiagen.com wrote: > You will have have no problem with speed traps if you weren't speeding.
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#4. RE: [E36M3] speeding tickets - from Lee Conte
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:18:00 -0800 From: "Lee Conte" <leeconte@home.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] speeding tickets Gee uh, shouldn't the law punish unsafe drivers rather than drivers moving at some arbitrary rate of speed? Oh yea I forgot, that would require effort, intelligence, wisdom, and honesty. OOPS! ------------------------------ Lee Conte San Diego, California
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#5. Re: [E36M3] speeding tickets - from Rob Jackowitz
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:19:34 -0500 From: "Rob Jackowitz" <rjme@msn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speeding tickets I think you guys are all missing the point. It's the lack of consistency. We should be able to agree on the following: 1) that exceeding speed limits is a violation of traffic laws and that there are consequences to being caught speeding. 2) that on MANY highways/rural roads MANY drivers exceed the posted speed limit, therefore, those drivers don't expect to get ticketed because everyone elso is doing it too. (While true, it's still a violation of the law) 3) speed limits are kept artificially low on MANY roads because, lets face it, MOST people can't drive for shit due to the fact that driver training is non-existant in the US. The combination of the above creates a window of opportunity for law enforcement. This being a capitalist society allows government/law enforcement to reap financial rewards. What pisses MANY of us off is the fact that there is no consistency...from state to state...or officer to officer...as to what's acceptable and what's not. 30 over...clearly not acceptable...but 10 or 15 over and you're in a gray area depending on who, when and where. If the gov't was truly interested in safety (as opposed to revenues), they would install highway speed cameras, create "reasonable limits" that were tailored to each roadway, and have 100% enforcement. How many of us would actually exceed a 75mph speed limit if the fine was $100 for every mph over and there was a "zero tolerance" system in place. Rob _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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#6. Re: speeding - from Jay Miller
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:20:03 -0800 From: "Jay Miller" <jjmiller6@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: speeding <html><div style='background-color:'><P>After growing up in Europe and being able to drive 100+ with others doing the same I've come to a number of conclusions... 1. Cars suck here. Even a '90 fiat uno can handle speed better than any Grand Marquis. 2. The roads suck here. 3. The drivers for the most part suck here. One is the slow lane, one's the crusing lane. So when a big piece of Dakar paint in the fast lane is getting larger and larger in your rear view mirror with a left blinker on MOVE. In Italy, on the autostrada, if you drive an M car, the road clears like your Moses. 4. Speed kills here.</P> <P>Jay</P> <P>'95 M3 Dakar</P></div><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag_etl_EN.asp'>http://explorer.msn.com</a>.<br></html>
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Shop rates on cams - from The Abels
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:41:40 -0600 From: "The Abels" <aAbel@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shop rates on cams I've priced out labor for a cam swap, since it's in my future. A shop local to me has a tech that can do cams in his sleep (talented and experienced). I got a 3 hour quote. That's $216. In talking with = Josh at Eurosport, the book rate is more like 7 hours, however. =20 Jeff=20 97 M3/4, in dire need of cams I was getting quotes for a cam swap on a 94 325, and the labor quotes ranged from $250 to $1500, with most around $750. It pays to shop around. =20 =20 Mike =20 =20
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#8. [E36M3] speeding tickets - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 14:46:32 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: [E36M3] speeding tickets peterg says "Make people work harder for the privilege of driving an automobile/motorcycle/4-ton behemoth SUV." I personally feel the motorcycle testing requirements (speaking in Ohio anyway) are more difficult than automobile tests. I barely know anyone that did not pass their auto test (even the foreign exchange student from Germany that my parents hosted that went through a red light during her test and the instructor still passed her...but just barely she said) but saw lots of people fail the motorcycle test when I took mine. I even saw a guy on a cruiser lay it down in the braking test. Taking the motorcycle test on a sport bike is even more difficult (the course benefits light, low geared quick steering bikes like my 74 Honda 350XL) and I was lucky to pass when I took it on my GSXR 750. Hell, I had to choose to completely throw away one turn in order to set myself up for the slalom because it wasn't even possible to do the combination with my sport bike. To prove this further, most Harley riders take the test on little 200 lb. 125 enduros since they would never pass the test on their +850 lb. cruisers with their steering radiuses. How funny to see them in their full gear riding this little bike and then hope on their Hog as they leave while their buddy tows home the little bike which is only used when one of them needs to pass the test. Granted, just because you can pass the motorcycle test does not mean you have common sense. I hate seeing erratic, high speed riders blatantly abusing high performance bikes on the street. Otherwise, I agree with your comments and generally feel that automobile driver testing should be more difficult. Best regards, Rich - rider and driver 96 GSXR 750 95 M3 89 325is 74 350XL
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#9. FS: Track Wheels/Tires - from Robert Liu
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 11:59:07 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Liu <bob_a_liu@yahoo.com> Subject: FS: Track Wheels/Tires For sale: A set of four (4) BMW double 10 spoke 17x7.5 wheels w/ a set of BFG R1As mounted. wheels are straight and in good condition (2) of the tires are brand new, 0 miles (2) of the tires are about 50% worn $1100 + shipping (from zip code 28277) Bob ===== ------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Liu bob_a_liu@yahoo.com ICQ# 22765210 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Check out Yahoo! Shopping and Yahoo! Auctions for all of your unique holiday gifts! Buy at http://shopping.yahoo.com or bid at http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#10. RE: Speeding tickets - from Davis, Jake A
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Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 13:57:42 -0600 From: "Davis, Jake A" <Jake.Davis@SW.Boeing.com> Subject: RE: Speeding tickets John said: <<Just like most any Mustang GT with the solid rear axle, 220 hpV8, but now we can mix a 17 year old with his baseball cap on backwards into the equation... Now put either one of these cars in the hands of anyone going 30 over, putting on lipstick (or err umm, black stripes under their eyes to absorb glare for the rugby match ;p), and smoking a cigarette while on a cell phone... I don't want these people going these kinds of speeds on the same road I am on so I do consider this protection.>> John, Unwittingly you hit on the real point. It's not the 75 mph!! it's the putting on lipstick/eyeblack, smoking a cigarette, talking on the cell phone, changing the radio station, changing lanes without using mirrors or signals...all at 40mph.....paying attention to everything but actually operating the automobile...the speed didn't cause the accident, the inattention did. Unfortunately I have to admit, those of us who take pride in driving precisely are the vast, vast minority. And the automakers are even in on it...next 'feature': email/web surfing while 'driving'. I use the term drive precisely because driving precisely is what we're really talking about. Precision is a combination of speed relative to conditions, ability to react instead of freeze up, and a little thing called situational awareness (the ability to look beyond the rear bumper of the car in front of you). OK, talk about breaking rules..there are many laws against distracted driving, laws against changing lanes without signalling, laws that require driving in the right lanes unless passsing...laws that are actually directly related to primary accident cause factors. Do you follow all of these all the time???? Better question, how many people are 'caught' breaking them??? How many Left Lane Bandits get ticketed?? That's where many of us are really coming from, if the idea is safety improvements, why not concentrate on the behaivors that are blatantly unsafe, instead of a convenient, easy to administer, revenue generator??? If I'm running 85 mph in the middle of heavy traffic that's predominantly at 60 mph, I'll suck it up if I get a ticket...I was doing something stupid. It's the 85 mph ticket while driving in a straight line on a rural interstate that makes no sense. Did the law dropping the speed limit from 65 mph to 55 mph on semi-suburban interstates and expressways around the Dallas Ft Worth metroplex make that 17 year old backward baseball cap wearing Mustang driver any safer??? Again, if the legislative powers that be were really concerned about increasing highway safety, we'd shoot for a higher level of driver. Ask your German friend what one has to do to obtain a driver's license in Germany? Dang it, there I went off on another rant...in a minute I'll be on the Geico rant... Jake