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#1. Re: [E36M3] Various spring threads - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 12:36:46 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Various spring threads Also, be aware that the part numbers provided for the euro springs are the wrong part numbers. =) Chester --- VT <fstbmwm3@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) > From: VT <fstbmwm3@yahoo.com> > Subject: Various spring threads > > After trying the Lightweight M3, H&R sport and now the > H&R race springs I would like to add my 2 euro cent > (the eurodollar is here folks !) > > When shopping for springs all that matters is a) > stiffness in lbs per inch b) progressive vs linear > design c) height changes. > > If you dont have an opinion on all three issues, dont > bother with the R&R. It costs and you must also get an > alignment. > > Practically all springs that are below 300lbs/inch and > are progressive are for Driving Miss Daizy. > > If you want to upgrade check the stiffness rating of > your OEM springs and upgrade to a significantly > stiffer spring. I am not talking 800lbs or 1200lbs > springs;350-400lbs linear front are OK for > street/track and if you have CD changer skipping > problems go with 400 progressive springs. > > Personally I was warned the the H&R race springs was > too stiff and had to buy 2 $ets of springs before > deciding for myself. > > If the vendor doesnt have stiffness in lbs for front > and rear, dont buy the springs until they provide > specs. Otherwise you are getting almost the same > springs and wasting good money that could be spend on > Driving schools (improving the nut behind the wheel) > > Regards, > Vlasis > E36 M3 mutant from Hell > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
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#2. 6x9 bracket for 4-door - from Dahlstrand, Kurt
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 15:49:04 -0500 From: "Dahlstrand, Kurt" <kdahlstrand@empirix.com> Subject: 6x9 bracket for 4-door I have heard that a bracket exists for the rear deck (4-Door) to allow for a 6x9 speaker installation. Just wondering if anyone has seen or used these and where they got them. Kurt
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#3. FS: Schroth Rallye 4 Harnesses - from j.demartino@us.qiagen.com
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:01:24 +0100 From: j.demartino@us.qiagen.com Subject: FS: Schroth Rallye 4 Harnesses For an E36 M3, black, very good condition. Used for drivers schools only (10 or so schools). John
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#4. FS: Rallye 4 Harnesses (more info) - from j.demartino@us.qiagen.com
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 22:20:15 +0100 From: j.demartino@us.qiagen.com Subject: FS: Rallye 4 Harnesses (more info) Sorry, forgot some info in the previous post... For an E36 M3, black, very good condition. Used for drivers schools only (10 or so schools). Both drivers and passengers side. $125 includes shipping. John
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#5. RE: Various spring threads - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Various spring threads w/ all this spring talk I have a couple of questions: 1) What are the specs given by BMW for the OEM springs both front and back? I mean a) length b) lbs/inch c) progressive or not? Feel free to point me to the right place. 2) Do springs wear out over time? If so, what is the rule of thumb for when to replace them? I am about to get new shocks and am wondering if I should replace the springs as well while I'm at it. (I'm not looking to go lower or stiffer since I only drive on bumpy public roads so I would(should?) probably just get a new set of OEM's) Thanks in advance! Mike '95 M3 2D Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) From: VT <fstbmwm3@yahoo.com> Subject: Various spring threads After trying the Lightweight M3, H&R sport and now the H&R race springs I would like to add my 2 euro cent (the eurodollar is here folks !) When shopping for springs all that matters is a) stiffness in lbs per inch b) progressive vs linear design c) height changes. If you dont have an opinion on all three issues, dont bother with the R&R. It costs and you must also get an alignment. Practically all springs that are below 300lbs/inch and are progressive are for Driving Miss Daizy. If you want to upgrade check the stiffness rating of your OEM springs and upgrade to a significantly stiffer spring. I am not talking 800lbs or 1200lbs springs;350-400lbs linear front are OK for street/track and if you have CD changer skipping problems go with 400 progressive springs. Personally I was warned the the H&R race springs was too stiff and had to buy 2 $ets of springs before deciding for myself. If the vendor doesnt have stiffness in lbs for front and rear, dont buy the springs until they provide specs. Otherwise you are getting almost the same springs and wasting good money that could be spend on Driving schools (improving the nut behind the wheel) Regards, Vlasis E36 M3 mutant from Hell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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#6. High Mileage - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:14:36 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: High Mileage I'm about to hit 100K on my '95 and was wondering if there were any E36M3's out there w/ seriously high mileages. Just sort of wondering how many more miles I can expect out of my ride. So who on this list has the bragging rights to the highest mileage? Mike '95 w/ ~100K & sailing smooth _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:18:47 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads Here you go... http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/e36_m3_spring.htm Mark R. 95 ///M3 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Reply-To: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:05:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Various spring threads w/ all this spring talk I have a couple of questions: 1) What are the specs given by BMW for the OEM springs both front and back? I mean a) length b) lbs/inch c) progressive or not? Feel free to point me to the right place. 2) Do springs wear out over time? If so, what is the rule of thumb for when to replace them? I am about to get new shocks and am wondering if I should replace the springs as well while I'm at it. (I'm not looking to go lower or stiffer since I only drive on bumpy public roads so I would(should?) probably just get a new set of OEM's) Thanks in advance! Mike '95 M3 2D Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) From: VT <fstbmwm3@yahoo.com> Subject: Various spring threads After trying the Lightweight M3, H&R sport and now the H&R race springs I would like to add my 2 euro cent (the eurodollar is here folks !) When shopping for springs all that matters is a) stiffness in lbs per inch b) progressive vs linear design c) height changes. If you dont have an opinion on all three issues, dont bother with the R&R. It costs and you must also get an alignment. Practically all springs that are below 300lbs/inch and are progressive are for Driving Miss Daizy. If you want to upgrade check the stiffness rating of your OEM springs and upgrade to a significantly stiffer spring. I am not talking 800lbs or 1200lbs springs;350-400lbs linear front are OK for street/track and if you have CD changer skipping problems go with 400 progressive springs. Personally I was warned the the H&R race springs was too stiff and had to buy 2 $ets of springs before deciding for myself. If the vendor doesnt have stiffness in lbs for front and rear, dont buy the springs until they provide specs. Otherwise you are getting almost the same springs and wasting good money that could be spend on Driving schools (improving the nut behind the wheel) Regards, Vlasis E36 M3 mutant from Hell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* Mark Radelow 95 ///M3 91 GTi 16v 88 Chevy Fullsize _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 22:19:27 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads BTW you should never have to replace the springs...They should last well over 100,000 miles before any notion of replacement. Mark From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Reply-To: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:05:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Various spring threads w/ all this spring talk I have a couple of questions: 1) What are the specs given by BMW for the OEM springs both front and back? I mean a) length b) lbs/inch c) progressive or not? Feel free to point me to the right place. 2) Do springs wear out over time? If so, what is the rule of thumb for when to replace them? I am about to get new shocks and am wondering if I should replace the springs as well while I'm at it. (I'm not looking to go lower or stiffer since I only drive on bumpy public roads so I would(should?) probably just get a new set of OEM's) Thanks in advance! Mike '95 M3 2D Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 09:47:48 -0800 (PST) From: VT <fstbmwm3@yahoo.com> Subject: Various spring threads After trying the Lightweight M3, H&R sport and now the H&R race springs I would like to add my 2 euro cent (the eurodollar is here folks !) When shopping for springs all that matters is a) stiffness in lbs per inch b) progressive vs linear design c) height changes. If you dont have an opinion on all three issues, dont bother with the R&R. It costs and you must also get an alignment. Practically all springs that are below 300lbs/inch and are progressive are for Driving Miss Daizy. If you want to upgrade check the stiffness rating of your OEM springs and upgrade to a significantly stiffer spring. I am not talking 800lbs or 1200lbs springs;350-400lbs linear front are OK for street/track and if you have CD changer skipping problems go with 400 progressive springs. Personally I was warned the the H&R race springs was too stiff and had to buy 2 $ets of springs before deciding for myself. If the vendor doesnt have stiffness in lbs for front and rear, dont buy the springs until they provide specs. Otherwise you are getting almost the same springs and wasting good money that could be spend on Driving schools (improving the nut behind the wheel) Regards, Vlasis E36 M3 mutant from Hell _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* Mark Radelow 95 ///M3 91 GTi 16v 88 Chevy Fullsize _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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#9. RE: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:33:52 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads thanks. I think I saw this or a similar page before but it says that the numbers are not specified by the manufacturer but measured instead. I was actually curious how well these numbers correlate w/ those given by BMW. Also, since the lbs/inch don't vary from 1" to 2" to 3" very much, I assume the springs are NOT progressive? BTW, what metric is normally used to specify how progressive a spring is? Thanks, Mike -----Original Message----- From: Mark Radelow [mailto:radelow@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:19 PM To: m_stembera@yahoo.com; e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads Here you go... http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/e36_m3_spring.htm Mark R. 95 ///M3 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Reply-To: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: [E36M3] RE: Various spring threads Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:05:27 -0600 Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2002 16:04:33 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: Various spring threads w/ all this spring talk I have a couple of questions: 1) What are the specs given by BMW for the OEM springs both front and back? I mean a) length b) lbs/inch c) progressive or not? Feel free to point me to the right place. 2) Do springs wear out over time? If so, what is the rule of thumb for when to replace them? I am about to get new shocks and am wondering if I should replace the springs as well while I'm at it. (I'm not looking to go lower or stiffer since I only drive on bumpy public roads so I would(should?) probably just get a new set of OEM's) Thanks in advance! Mike '95 M3 2D _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
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#10. Re: [E36M3] High Mileage - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2002 14:36:18 -0800 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] High Mileage on 1/3/02 2:15 PM, Michael Stembera at m_stembera@yahoo.com wrote: > I'm about to hit 100K on my '95 and was wondering if there were any > E36M3's out there w/ seriously high mileages. Just sort of wondering > how many more miles I can expect out of my ride. So who on this list > has the bragging rights to the highest mileage? I know of a couple of people with Club Racers pushing around 175k miles. My 7/94-build '95 has 115k miles at present, and drives like it's new. Take care of your car and it will last forever. -peterg (sold my '84 528e w/240k miles, and it was still running strong!)