E36M3 #1894

Friday, January 04, 2002 15:36:31

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak - from Margaret Cheng
#2. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from Chester Wong
#3. Re: [E36M3] Battery - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from peter@guagenti.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] Suspension Installation - from Robert Chay
#7. re: Power Steering Leak - from andy radin
#8. Re: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak - from Robert Chay
#9. RE: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from Seth Thomas
#10. Re: Battery Source - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
#11. Re: Have you seen this yet? - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
#12. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#13. RE: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak - from Margaret Cheng
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Date: 04 Jan 2002 12:36:30 -0800 From: Margaret Cheng <Margaret.Cheng@kp.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak Hello. My post from a few months ago... Also, if you drive your car hard, the power steering fluid may boil and vent through the pin hole in the reservoir cap, leaving a residue of P/S fluid, which may appear as a slow leak. Hopefully, this is your problem, since all you have to do is to watch your fluid levels to make sure that they don't drop further than the "equilibrium state" Margaret Date: 08 Nov 2001 19:40:53 -0800 From: Margaret Cheng <Margaret.Cheng@kp.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Steering Rack Replacement Yes, it's true. I have had the unfortunate luck of having to call for a (long) tow twice in the past 3 1/2 months because of the failure of the power steering return hose (looks like a metal trombone attached via a crimp connection to the rubber hose going up to the P/S reservoir). Both times, the failure occurred at the rubber/metal hose junction, once after the part was one day old, and second time after < 2000 miles of service. Extremely frustrating, to say the least. Theories which exist: 1) Engine mounts allowing too much motion, causing tension, resulting in the rubber part pulling out of the metal fitting. (Dealer says mine are fine) 2) Too much back pressure caused by the restrictor in the rubber hose, located at the spring clamp in the middle of the rubber hose. Advised to remove restrictor, and use screw type hose clamp to attach hose to metal part. (why me and no one else?--I don't drive harder than everyone else...) 3) Bad luck--two defective parts in a row. (Dealer says this!?!) 4) Too much tension on the rubber hose because the P/S reservoir wasn't fully seated in its position. Currently, #4 is my theory, only because I noticed this after I got the car back from the dealer who just replaced the defective hose a week ago. I noticed there was no slack in the rubber hose whatsoever, and as I was looking at the reservoir from the top, the fastener was loose. This allowed me to rotate the reservoir slightly, and then I noticed that it wasn't fully seated. I pushed the reservoir down, and then noticed immediate slack in the hose, enough for it to be wiggled back and forth slightly. This amount of wiggle isn't huge, but at least it now matches the other car on the garage (it's nice to have a comparison model...). Unfortunately, I didn't notice if this was the position of the reservoir before the repair. I will say that I am now going to bring one of those hoses as a spare! Margaret 97 M3/4, thinking about borrowing Donna's rig to cart all my spare parts! jimbassett@home.com on 11/06/2001 08:56:00 PM To: e36m3@bmw-m.net@Internet cc: (bcc: Margaret Cheng/CA/KAIPERM) Subject: Re: [E36M3] Steering Rack Replacement Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 20:45:11 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Steering Rack Replacement ....Also, the hoses that are part rubber & part metal tubing will start to leak ....at the metal fitting, and when they let go, they WILL leave you stranded. ....Just ask Margaret (or me :-)). Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 Christopher.Darling@scott.af.mil on 01/04/2002 12:10:00 PM To: e36m3@bmw-m.net@Internet cc: (bcc: Margaret Cheng/CA/KAIPERM) Subject: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:00:17 -0600 From: "Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR" <Christopher.Darling@scott.af.mil> Subject: Power Steering Leak My 1995 M3 (92K miles) has a very slow leak of power steering fluid (red-colored) coming from "somewhere" beneath what I think is the reservoir. Can't tell if it is the unit itself or just a hose fitting or what. Does the group have any general comments about this--implications, common failure modes, etc? DIY-fixable? Thanks, Cod Major Chris Darling HQ AMC/CEXR DSN 779-0698, Comm (618) 229-0698

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? --- peter@guagenti.com wrote: > A couple of observations: > > - I didn't realize they were so small. I kind of figured they were the size > of > a Diablo, not so compact. > > - The guy is running what appear to be Michelin Pilots. Sheesh, I would have > > to run R-compounds on that thing on the street, on general principle that the Drool. My observations: - It needs new wheels ;) - It really needs a wing ;) LOL! Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Battery - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 14:49:45 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Battery From: "Richard Sperry" <richardsperry@home.com> wrote: > > Ahmad, you own an ///M3.... A new battery designed for your car is > available at the dealer.. about $100 with CCA discount. My original battery > lasted 5 years.... Why bother searching for something that "might fit", > "should work", "need to modify....." Rich, I'll give you three reasons: 1. OEM battery in my wife's car lasted exactly 2 years and 2 months. 2. BMW/Douglas batteries are covered only for 2 months (mine was not covered) vs. 5+ years of either fixed or pro-rated coverage from aftermarket suppliers 3. BMW/Douglas batteries are subject to dealer gauging with my local DFW dealer initial asking price of $225 The above three reasons lead me to spend $125 on an Optima http://www.1st-optima-batteries.com/ battery instead. YYMV, alex f

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from peter@guagenti.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:01:25 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? > Drool. My observations: There's a puddle forming. > - It needs new wheels ;) I agree. Those wheels look cheap. Needs a set of forged wheels. But who the hell makes wheels for McLarens? > - It really needs a wing ;) Oh, Chester. Are you sure you're not a rice-boy at heart. We can get you a samurai body kit for your M. ;-) If McLaren says it'll safely do 240mph without significant lift, I'll trust 'em. Why add drag? Might add .1 of a second to my 0-100mph time. -peterg (really wishing the whole dotcom thing didn't fizzle so quickly) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. http://www.hispeed.com

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:17:02 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? This must be one of Ralph Lauren's cars! They ARE small and very low (saw, heard and crawled all over one at PTG's factory tour). The central sitting position is fantastic. The build and interior/exterior finish is second to none. It IS a common misconception that McLaren F1 is a race-bred car. It is not! By Gordon Murray's own admission he set out to build an ultimate road car with all the compromises that entails. It was never designed to race, but managed to do so remarkably well until Porches built its own all out GT1 car. BTW, the titanium exhaust alone on that car is worth $120K. Anyone wants to bet that some geniuses are not marketing "performance" aftermarket exhausts for that baby? alex f |---------+---------------------------> | | peter@guagenti.c| | | om | | | | | | 01/04/02 02:45 | | | PM | | | Please respond | | | to peter | | | | |---------+---------------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> | | cc: | | Subject: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? | >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:40:25 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: Have you seen this yet? Turner Motorsport posted pics of a very nice customer car... a McLaren F1: http://www.turnermotorsport.com/pages/mclaren.htm Amazing! A couple of observations: - I didn't realize they were so small. I kind of figured they were the size of a Diablo, not so compact. - The guy is running what appear to be Michelin Pilots. Sheesh, I would have to run R-compounds on that thing on the street, on general principle that the thing is truly race-bred. -peterg

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Suspension Installation - from Robert Chay
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:21:10 -0500 From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension Installation Chester - but weren't the stars aligned just right? ;) -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 12:16:11 -0800 (PST) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension Installation > > If you have a hobby shop with lifts, etc...I'm assuming air tools as well, you > should be golden. Just take your time. I've done 3 suspension installs since > last August or so. It just flies by nowadays. > > Chester

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#7. re: Power Steering Leak - from andy radin
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:20:36 -0800 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: re: Power Steering Leak "My 1995 M3 (92K miles) has a very slow leak of power steering fluid (red-colored) coming from "somewhere" beneath what I think is the reservoir. Can't tell if it is the unit itself or just a hose fitting or what. Does the group have any general comments about this--implications, common failure modes, etc? DIY-fixable?" the crimp clamps on the power steering hoses suck and are prone to leakage. Wherever you see one of those crappy crimp clamps, you'll need to replace it sooner or later. There are two hoses that tend to leak (both did on mine), but unfortunately one end of each is permanently mounted to a length of hard line, so you have to replace the hard lines too. One is the long trombone-looking piece (fluid cooler) that bolts to the steering rack, and it kind of expensive. Some $80-90 total at discount. Definitely DIY fixable, maybe 1.5 beers. andy r. 98 m3/2

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak - from Robert Chay
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:25:46 -0500 From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Power Steering Leak Replace the hoses and clamps under the reservoir. If you just replace one or the other, it will leak again. I had this done at the dealer b/c of time restraints but it's a DIY'er if you're pretty handy with tools. Remember to get some fluid before you start. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- > > My 1995 M3 (92K miles) has a very slow leak of power steering fluid > (red-colored) coming from "somewhere" beneath what I think is the > reservoir. Can't tell if it is the unit itself or just a hose fitting > or what. Does the group have any general comments about > this--implications, common failure modes, etc? DIY-fixable? Thanks, > > Cod > Major Chris Darling > HQ AMC/CEXR > DSN 779-0698, Comm (618) 229-0698 >

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:30:08 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? I think the wheels on the McLaren are Magnesium wheels but don't quote me on it. Another thing that is off topic on this one but it does have to do with magnesium wheels. Ferrari used Mg wheels on the 550 Maranello (might have others but this is the only one I know of). And the mounting holes or the area around them was made with some other metal to keep the Mg from reacting with the hub. Anyway the other metal they uses is being wallowed out by the pressure and they have a recall on these wheels. Just a little bit of trivia for you motorheads out there. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com > -----Original Message----- > From: peter@guagenti.com [mailto:peter@guagenti.com] > Sent: Friday, January 04, 2002 4:15 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? > > > Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:01:25 US/Pacific > From: peter@guagenti.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? > > > Drool. My observations: > > There's a puddle forming. > > > - It needs new wheels ;) > > I agree. Those wheels look cheap. Needs a set of forged wheels. > But who the > hell makes wheels for McLarens? > > > - It really needs a wing ;) > > Oh, Chester. Are you sure you're not a rice-boy at heart. We can > get you a > samurai body kit for your M. ;-) > > If McLaren says it'll safely do 240mph without significant lift, I'll > trust 'em. Why add drag? Might add .1 of a second to my 0-100mph time. > > -peterg > (really wishing the whole dotcom > thing didn't fizzle so > quickly) > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------- > This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. > http://www.hispeed.com > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#10. Re:  Battery Source - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:24:42 -0500 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Re: Battery Source Something else to consider: My mechanic (a local, independent, BMW-only shop) always has the correct Interstate battery in stock since his customers are coming in all the time with dead batteries. If you have a local mechanic it is likely that he does the same. I never worry about finding a battery when the one in the M3 dies because I know exactly where to find one ahead of time. Shane Kleinpeter This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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#11. Re: Have you seen this yet? - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 16:29:27 -0500 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Re: Have you seen this yet? Peter writes about the Turner McLaren Customer car: >A couple of observations: >- I didn't realize they were so small. I kind of figured they were the size of >a Diablo, not so compact. I thought the same thing when I saw it at NHIS during Oktoberfest. It really is a small car, and not quite as good looking in road trim as in race trim IMHO. >- The guy is running what appear to be Michelin Pilots. Sheesh, I would have >to run R-compounds on that thing on the street, on general principle that the >thing is truly race-bred. He (or whoever was driving it) was moving quite nicely out on the track on those street tires. Shane Kleinpeter This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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#12. Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 15:29:19 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? peter@guagenti.com wrote: > > > - It needs new wheels ;) > > I agree. Those wheels look cheap. Needs a set of forged wheels. But who the > hell makes wheels for McLarens? IIRC those are magnesium (super strong and super light) wheels. > > - It really needs a wing ;) > > Oh, Chester. Are you sure you're not a rice-boy at heart. We can get you a > samurai body kit for your M. ;-) > > If McLaren says it'll safely do 240mph without significant lift, I'll > trust 'em. Why add drag? Might add .1 of a second to my 0-100mph time. It's got a wing! It pops-up under breaking to add downforce to the rear wheels. Like Peter said, who needs extra drag when the body is one giant wing ;-) alex f > (really wishing the whole dotcom > thing didn't fizzle so quickly) That would not have helped (much). The production ended in '98 with only 100 total cars produced, with only 64 of those sold in the 'F1' road going form: http://www.mclarencars.com/content/sections/mainfr/sales.htm It might worth mentioning that some dot.com retard flipped his McLarenF1 in CA the other year... *sigh*

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#13. RE: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Fri, 4 Jan 2002 13:30:22 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Have you seen this yet? > > - It really needs a wing ;) > > Oh, Chester. Are you sure you're not a rice-boy at heart. We > can get you a > samurai body kit for your M. ;-) > > If McLaren says it'll safely do 240mph without significant lift, I'll > trust 'em. Why add drag? Might add .1 of a second to my > 0-100mph time. Actually, it does have a "wing", but it's deployed to help under braking, not for high speeds: http://www.fortunecity.com/silverstone/lancia/58/classic/mclaren.htm "As designer Gordon Murray was famous of innovative ideas ( his inventions during his Formula One years including Tyrrell 6 wheeler and Brabham ground effect fan car ), F1 received several first-ever inventions : Central driver seat with 2 passenger seats on either side behind the driver : this has so many advantages. Not only enables as much as 3 passengers sit comfortably, it enables the driver sit forward without obstructed by the wheels thus increase visibility a lot. Besides, it provides perfect balance when the driver is driving alone. Ground effect with fans assisted : Murray introduced his brilliant invention into the road car, which help eliminating lift without increasing drag, unlike spoiler. Aero brake-assistance : A small rear spoiler will pop up to shift the center of gravity back to rear during braking, thus increasing the effectiveness of braking. The overall aerodynamic coefficient drag is 0.32, as remarkable as 959 and Diablo. " Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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