E36M3 #1937

Friday, January 18, 2002 21:58:38

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: bad 1st gear shifting and synchros - from Michael Kelley
#2. Re: FS 1996 Individual M3/4 EVO - from Michael Kelley
#3. Piston Slap - It's not! It's timing chain and maybe VANOS. - from McCarthy, Brian
#4. [E36M3] Knock Sensor Fault Code, fixed? - from RogRacer@aol.com
#5. [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold - from Colin_S_Whelan@rrfc.raytheon.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] 1997 M3 Sedan for sale - from Bob Larson
#7. Re: [E36M3] 1997 M3 Sedan for sale - from Bob Larson
#8. Re: [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold - from James Mckenna
#9. BMW PARTS CD - from James Mckenna
#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Adjustable rear control arms - from Michael

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#1. Re: bad 1st gear shifting and synchros - from Michael Kelley
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:44:00 -0800 From: "Michael Kelley" <mkelley@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: bad 1st gear shifting and synchros on> Fri, 18 Jan 2002 06:41:57 -0800 (PST) Vlasis fstbmwm3@yahoo.com wrote: > I hope I am wrong but it could be the 1st gear syncro. > These are easier worn out than gearbox gears, but I > dont know if the are replaceable or you have to buy a > complete gearbox $$$. > Worn out syncros occur after but misshifts with lots > of grinding. Maybe true for some but in my car the magnet in the tranny drain plug showed absolutely no capture on any of the three successive fluid drains. Additionally, the ATF removed during each drain was filtered through cheese cloth looking for any non-ferrous content, with no results, nada, nothing, and the fluid was always clear with no unusual odor (as if ATF smells usual). Mike 98M3C

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#2. Re: FS 1996 Individual M3/4 EVO - from Michael Kelley
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:14:18 -0800 From: "Michael Kelley" <mkelley@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: FS 1996 Individual M3/4 EVO In the FWIW category:, for your viewing pleasure (I have absolutely no personal or private interest in this whatsoever, just thought you would like to look :-) 1996 BMW Individual M3 EVO 4 Door LOW MILES!!!! And for a price!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=600684503& r=0&t=0 There's also a link to a nice video of the car, with sound, near the bottom of the page. Mike 98M3C

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#3. Piston Slap - It's not!  It's timing chain and maybe VANOS. - from McCarthy, Brian
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:12:48 -0800 From: "McCarthy, Brian" <Brian.McCarthy@intermec.com> Subject: Piston Slap - It's not! It's timing chain and maybe VANOS. All, I'd like to wrap up the thread. I started with my suspicion of piston slap (the diesel engine sound when the engine was cold). The BMW dealer diagnosed a chain tensioner & VANOS problem, and suggested I get the work done now. Phone estimate was $900. I turned again to the digest, and about the diagnosis. I got some great advice! (thanks Chester Wong, Mark Radelow, Reid Conti, Brian Terril, Michael Wylie, James Mckenna, NickG, Tom Eby , Neil Maller, Kit Wetzler) I talked with the dealer's mechanic who diagnosed my car. We went outside, started the car and listened. With him away from the service advisor, we could speak frankly about the extent of the problem, and the urgency or the repairs. So instead of "you should have this work done right away" (service advisor), the mechanic said "if the noise bothers you could have the work done". And "since you're going to change the water pump yourself, you oughta change the chain tensioner, because they do fail" The mechanic definitely agreed with several of you to do the chain first. And he agreed with digester Brian Terril that the VANOS should be fine at 27K miles. Moral: talk to the mechanic, use the digest, and evaluate what the service advisor says with the understanding their job is to sell Service work. I plan on changing the tensioner. And water pump, thermostat & housing, and radiator. I'm looking forward to it. I've spent countless hours working on my '76 2002. It's simple, almost crude in comparison to an M3. Maybe the real moral is "when you've been wrenchin g your own 2002 for twenty years, I have a lot to learn about dealerships and M3 service" Later, and thanks again! Brian McCarthy Brian.McCarthy@intermec.com

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#4. [E36M3] Knock Sensor Fault Code, fixed? - from RogRacer@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:47:41 EST From: RogRacer@aol.com Subject: [E36M3] Knock Sensor Fault Code, fixed? As soon as I post this, I know Mr. Murphy is going to pay me a visit and prove me wrong. But, for those experiencing intermittent Knock Sensor fault codes, you may want to try cleaning the DME contacts and connector with electrical contact cleaner. I was getting intermittent CE "blinks" from KS faults a few times a week. Mainly from Knock Sensor 2, but eventually KS #1 threw a fault also. Noticing that they share a common ground with the DME, and figuring the failure of two knock sensors is unlikely, I decided to try cleaning the DME contacts. I believe the Knock sensors are just piezoelectric accelerometers which have very low-levels of output and could be very sensitive to connector corrosion and cleanliness. Also, the DME just has nickel-plated connectors, so they could develop issues over time (gold-plated would be better, of course). Anyway, I cleaned the connectors and have been fault-free for about two months now. So, if you are experiencing this problem, you may want to give it a try... Roger RogRacer@aol.com '95 M3...I just KNOW I'll see a KS code now the next time I drive.....

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#5. [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold - from Colin_S_Whelan@rrfc.raytheon.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:53:29 -0500 From: Colin_S_Whelan@rrfc.raytheon.com Subject: [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold I was wondering if anyone has experienced a repeated hesitation/surging (chugging) at ~ 2000-2500 rpm under small throttle openings, only when the car is cold. It doesn't really seem to occur at other rpms and clears up when the car is warm. The car had new plugs and fuel filter this summer. Thanks, Colin '98 M3/2 (JC Software, Intake....) 39K

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#6. Re: [E36M3] 1997 M3 Sedan for sale - from Bob Larson
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:08:24 -0800 From: Bob Larson <asp9111@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 1997 M3 Sedan for sale I'm turning in my M3 sedan on a lease this month. At about 26,200 residual, I decided not to buy it. It's got 69000 mi, Auto... I'm keeping my '97 5-speed . Obviously it could be for sale soon from a dealer here in Oregon or who knows... Bob Larson

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#7. Re: [E36M3] 1997 M3 Sedan for sale - from Bob Larson
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 18:08:45 -0800 From: Bob Larson <asp9111@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 1997 M3 Sedan for sale I'm turning in my M3 sedan on a lease this month. At about $26,200 residual, I decided not to buy it. It's got 69000 mi, Auto... I'm keeping my '97 5-speed . Obviously it could be for sale soon from a dealer here in Oregon or who knows... Bob Larson

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold - from James Mckenna
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 21:32:35 -0500 From: "James Mckenna" <shutupkid@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold same problem... what thehell is causing it!!... the guys at dtmpower think its the flex disk, mine looks fine on my 95 m3 so i dont know... ----- Original Message ----- From: <Colin_S_Whelan@rrfc.raytheon.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 7:57 PM Subject: [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 19:53:29 -0500 > From: Colin_S_Whelan@rrfc.raytheon.com > Subject: [E36M3] Chugging at 2000rpm when cold > > > I was wondering if anyone has experienced a repeated hesitation/surging > (chugging) at ~ 2000-2500 rpm under small throttle openings, only when the > car is cold. It doesn't really seem to occur at other rpms and clears up > when the car is warm. > > The car had new plugs and fuel filter this summer. > > Thanks, > Colin > '98 M3/2 (JC Software, Intake....) 39K > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#9. BMW PARTS CD - from James Mckenna
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 21:38:25 -0500 From: "James Mckenna" <shutupkid@home.com> Subject: BMW PARTS CD where can i get the software that bmw parts depot uses? i could really use a copy, anybody willing to copy it?

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Adjustable rear control arms - from Michael
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Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 22:50:48 -0800 From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Adjustable rear control arms Has anyone actually seen the Kmac rear caster, camber set up or is it a typo on their page? The parts they show WILL NOT work on a E-36 Ground Control sells a very nice aluminum lower camber arm for E-36s, threaded tube etc to replace the 'salad tongs' that are so easily bent. Another very easy mod to do, is just to weld some 1/8" plating to the top and bottom of the stock pieces. This was done on most E-36s when they were first raced back in 94-95 etc. For the poster that could not get even rear camber, something is bent and bent badly. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Fanning" <p.fanning@verizon.net> > Kmac makes an adjustable rear caster, camber > setup. http://www.racetep.com/kmac.html I think this would be better than > race application parts on a street driven car. >

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