E36M3 #1946

Tuesday, January 22, 2002 19:37:58

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Front Lower Control Arm Bearings - from Mount, Mike
#2. RE: 328is M3 - from David
#3. Re: Rear bushings - from Neil Maller
#4. Re: Spacers for trailing arm bushings - GC spacers - from Alan Taur
#5. ASC - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
#6. RE: [E36M3] Front Lower Control Arm Bearings - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
#7. Dealer work before warranty expires? - from Allen Reyes
#8. RE: ABS system on 95 M3s - from Michael Stembera
#9. Re: my e36, world's worst rally car - from david tow
#10. Alignment required? - from Paul Elliott
#11. ASC Button - from Paul Elliott

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#1. Front Lower Control Arm Bearings - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 10:55:09 -0800 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: Front Lower Control Arm Bearings Hey all, it seems that my M3 is having difficulty getting the GC Control Arm Bearings installed correctly. Anyone have a satisfying experience with a shop here in the Golden State? Hopefully in the middle of the state or thereabouts? How about somewhere between Santa Rosa and Orange County? Thx, Mike

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#2. RE: 328is M3 - from David
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 13:06:09 -0600 From: David <tristar500@mac.com> Subject: RE: 328is M3 Someone here in my part of the world owns a yellow Civic Del Sol with a MB star and SLK320 text on the back. Honda badge on the front though. What is the motivation? Dave > RE: 328is M3 > > If only I carried a camera around in my car! About two months ago I had seen > a neon endowed honda civic with an M3 badge on the back. I really was > curious as to why he would stick that on there...

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#3. Re: Rear bushings - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:06:48 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Rear bushings on 1/22/02 1:47 PM, Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> wrote: > I've seen the GC Trailing arm reinforcements and I think the powerflex > bushings are better. Apples and oranges. They don't fit in the same place or do the same thing. Neil - "My shoes are better than your hair." 96 M3

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#4. Re: Spacers for trailing arm bushings - GC spacers - from Alan Taur
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:24:17 -0800 From: "Alan Taur" <alantaur@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Spacers for trailing arm bushings - GC spacers I've been running the GC spacers with stock bushings for about 5 months now, and I'm happy as can be. Rear end is well controlled, much better than stock. Best part is that the ride of the car is stock. I had polyurethane bushings in my car for about 6 months prior to replacing them with the OEM bushings. They were blue colored, I'm not quite sure who the manufacturer was as a local shop put them in for me (which is the last time I'll ever ask anyone to replace to a suspension part for me). The ride was noticeably harsher and noisier with the poly bushings. The damn things also squeaked and groaned, especially when cold. Only through liberal and repeated helpings of Wurth HHS2000 was the racket kept under control. The car handled well, though, with no twitchiness in the rear. But the last straw came when one of the poly bushings popped out of the metal sleeve while I was driving down the road. Not cool! The car almost immediately started pulling to one side. I actually thought my tire had blown out. Anyways, the bushings came out. I promptly drop kicked them into the next zip code. In go the stock units, and couple weeks later go the the GC spacers. -Alan, in a state of bliss with the rear suspension. For now... _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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#5. ASC - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 14:33:31 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: ASC > the system should I want to. This also works in the revers manner with the > ASC STAYING on. Does anyone know what purpose this serves? Hm, that's interesting. So, I've removed my ASC throttle body. The light is permanently on. I'm curious, though... sometimes, when I romp on the gas in first or second, the car doesn't accelerate like I'd expect. I'm trying to track this down to a supercharger belt slipping or something like that. However, I am under the impression that the ASC can also retard the timing and cut fuel, too, correct? Does anyone know how the ASC works from a very fundamental level? If it detects that the ASC throttle body is not there, what does it do? Does it completely shut off the system, as if you'd pressed the button? or does it show the light because it detects a fault, but leaves the timing/fuel cut possibilities there? Thanks guys. -kit 97 m3 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Front Lower Control Arm Bearings - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:35:04 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front Lower Control Arm Bearings > Hey all, it seems that my M3 is having difficulty getting the GC > Control Arm Bearings installed correctly. Anyone have a satisfying > experience with a shop here in the Golden State? Hopefully > in the middle of > the state or thereabouts? How about somewhere between Santa > Rosa and Orange > County? That's a mighty big swath of real estate :-) Either Conversion Techniques in Oakland or Bill Arnold in San Rafeal (as if these weren't the obvious answers from me :-)). Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP

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#7. Dealer work before warranty expires? - from Allen Reyes
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 19:59:40 +0000 From: "Allen Reyes" <allenrey14@hotmail.com> Subject: Dealer work before warranty expires? I'm wondering what work should be done before I hit the 50k mark. I already have an appointment this Wednesday to get the exhaust hangers replaced but I want to make sure there's no surprises after my warranty runs out. So far, I've had the crankshaft position sensor recall and fuel sender update. Anything else I'm not aware of? Allen 98 M3/2 _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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#8. RE: ABS system on 95 M3s - from Michael Stembera
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 18:57:21 -0600 From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: ABS system on 95 M3s My ABS pump (PN is 34.51.2.227.216) on my '95 went bad and I need to replace it. From reading the two posts below, I wonder if I would be better off getting the '96+ ABS pump. Would it work and would I then get the 4 channel operation? Thanks, Mike -------------------------------------------- #2. ABS system on 95 M3s - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.comTopDate: Fri, 9 Nov 2001 11:38:01 -0800 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: ABS system on 95 M3s The ABS system on 95 M3s is a 4 detector (one at each wheel), 3 channel activated system. The rear brakes are on a common line. Each of the fronts are on their own line. This means that if the system detects lock-up on one of the rear wheels it will cut back on brake pressure until that single wheel begins to rotate again. Obviously this cuts down on the brake pressure being applied to the opposite non-locked rear wheel as well. Hence your braking efficiency might be slightly less. However, since the majority of your braking is done on the front wheels the rear brake might only be seen under severe duty or extreme circumstances with a significant difference between left and right traction (one wheel in sand or snow, the other on asphalt perhaps?) The 1996+ M3s have ABS that is 4 channel sensor, 4 channel brake line actuation and so can vary the brake pressure independently on each wheel for presumably better braking under extreme conditions or significant differences between left and right traction surfaces to the rear wheel. I personally don't see much of a problem with moderately different wear amounts on rear or front. It becomes a problem if it is extreme leading to different traction from side to side, or, if it is extreme you will be asking the LSD (limited slip differential) to be doing more work than it usually does. I have heard that if you are using a limited use spare on a LSD axle then you shouldn't use it for a significant amount of time because the LSD (and its oil) may significantly heat up potentially causing damage. I don't know if this is true or not. But it does make sense. And, in cars with traction control systems or systems that detect a "differential" rotation between all 4 corners a significant difference in wear of the tires may show up as activation of the traction control system or dynamic stability system, or in the new E46M3, telling you that one tire is low on air (the system works on the basis that a tire that is low on air will have a smaller effective diameter and hence showing up as a different rotational speed than the pumped up tires). Regards, Marc 95M3CSL (no traction control, no DSC, no flats either.....just bald tires happily worn evenly!). ----------------------------------------------------- #8. Re: ABS system on 95 M3s - from Ron KatonaTopDate: Sun, 11 Nov 2001 07:50:11 -0500 From: "Ron Katona" <rkatona@bellatlantic.net> Subject: Re: ABS system on 95 M3s .... It's true that there is a full 4-channel system on the 96+ and it's true that it *could* pulse the rears independently in ABS operation just as it does in ASC+T operation. However, I've been told by reliable sources that both rear channels are still pulsed in unison during rear ABS operation. If you check the TIS, you'll see the two rear channels being tied together in all the schematics for both '95 and '96+ cars. Probably have to find someone from Bosch to actually verify, but I could see not wanting to rewrite the entire ABS algorithm and rather just splitting the single 3rd channel (rear) signal to both rear valves on the '96+ cars. -- Ron Katona _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

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#9. Re: my e36, world's worst rally car - from david tow
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 16:52:26 -0800 From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: my e36, world's worst rally car Hey, Jesse, No sweat! You definitely can afford this. I could not even afford a bike when I was your age. --------------------------------- Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2002 10:35:11 -0700 From: Jesse Caldwell <Jesse.Caldwell@Colorado.EDU> Subject: my e36, world's worst rally car i am a complete frigging idiot, and my car paid for it. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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#10. Alignment required? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:34:48 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Alignment required? My '99 is in the dealer getting an INspection II, and, at the same = time, a new Dinan Suspension (Koni shocks/strut inserts, and springs). I was so close to the 36K mile maintenance warranty, they agreed to give me a credit toward the purchase of the suspension, so it kind of made up my mind for me.=20 =20 Anyway, I dont believe that they will perform a reallignment as part of the installation..I dont know for sure, and theyre closed now so I cant ask, but I'm guessing that they wont do it unless I make an issue out = of it.. =20 Which surprises me...First, do you think its absolutely required with this upgrade? What surprised me is that they warranty this installation, and clearly if there are allignment issues, I'll be back, and theyll have to take care of it. Also, as you can see by the deal theyre offereing me, ie, paying for what probably amounts to a $700 Inspection II when technically, they really dont have to, they are interested very much in CSI. =20 So, my guess is if they dont do it, they dont believe it is necessary...Either they can button things up exactly the way it was before in terms of alignment, or, the springs dont lower it appreciably so as to change the angles significantly.. =20 I really dont know, and Im just using some kind of logic here. Hell...Youd think that for 7.5 hrs labor charge, they'd do whatever is needed....For that charge, they ought to make and serve me dinner too. But it doesnt mean theyre going to! =20 --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#11. ASC Button - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 20:39:19 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: ASC Button Hi Chester, =20 >>It snowed 'round here on Saturday and I took advantage of the opportunity and took my car out to a big open area and spent a half an hour practicing car control. << =20 Yea, quite a snowstorm! These days, 3 inches constitutes a snowstorm = in these parts, right?! Anyway, I never ceased to be amazed at how good our cars, when equipped with 4 snows, really is on ice and snow...I tried comparing the exact same maneuver with and without using the ASC, and the ASC is clearly an AS (Ass Saver) in the extreme. =20 =20 --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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