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#1. RE: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:00:47 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... Can you two take it to private email? Sheesh indeed :-) (And you were complaining about *my* post.) Jim Bassett > -----Original Message----- > From: donna seeley [mailto:dlseeley@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:18 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... > > > Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:11:00 -0800 > From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... > > LOL! And unlike crack, the first taste isn't even free! > > Donna > > On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 08:57 AM, Wen Liew wrote: > > >> From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> > >> Original pads & rotors?? > >> Oh, Wen, honey, come with me to a track - you're missing > half the fun > >> of > >> that car! <G> > >> > >> Donna, always willing to drag folks down the slippery slope > > > > Hey Donna, > > > > I've heard about your reputation from this list. Too many > have taken > > the first bite of the forbidden fruit and are now your umbrella > > holders ;) You know what they say..once down the slippery > slope, you > > can't get back up!!!! > > > > Wen > > 96 M3 - now with a windy commute to work ;) > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the > mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] How Noisy are Koni SAs? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:15:35 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How Noisy are Koni SAs? Hmm...I have two rubber pads...one on the top and one on the bottom. Chester --- Michael Schaublin <mike_schaublin@hotmail.com> wrote: <HR> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 13:38:55 -0500 From: "Michael Schaublin" <mike_schaublin@hotmail.com> Subject: How Noisy are Koni SAs? <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV> <P>Just finished the install of a Koni TrackLine and am experience a lot of noise from the rears. It is a loud moaning type sound on medium size dips. It appears to be coming mostly from the driver's side, but I can't tell for sure. As far as noise coming in from the trunk, I have reinstalled the speakers but don't have the trunk lining in place, although this is loud enough I don't think the trunk liner will cover it up. The shocks are set 1 full turn from full soft. One other (possibly) relevant detail - when I pulled the OE springs out, there was no rubber disk between the spring and the body, so I did not put one in with the new springs. The new springs seem to have a flatter "seat" giving more contact area between spring and body, which may be causing the noise. Any thoughts? <BR><BR></P></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag1_etl_EN.asp'>Click Here</a><br></html> ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Brake Rotor Choice - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:18:15 -0800 From: "Bob Lenarcik" <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Rotor Choice I have to second Chester's opinion. I treat front rotors as consumables and the $45 Brembos look and function exactly like the OEM ATE disks that come with the car. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:57 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Rotor Choice <snip> To answer your question, go with the el cheapo $45 brembo rotors. FWIW, Chester
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... - from donna seeley
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:15:43 -0800 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... So Mr. Grouchy isn't going to the track this weekend? (Note to newbies: withdrawal is an ugly thing - you have to get regular fixes) Donna On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 11:00 AM, jim.bassett@alloptic.com wrote: > Can you two take it to private email? Sheesh indeed :-) > > (And you were complaining about *my* post.) > > Jim Bassett > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: donna seeley [mailto:dlseeley@earthlink.net] >> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 9:18 AM >> To: E36M3 >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... >> >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 09:11:00 -0800 >> From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> >> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... >> >> LOL! And unlike crack, the first taste isn't even free! >> >> Donna >> >> On Friday, January 25, 2002, at 08:57 AM, Wen Liew wrote: >> >>>> From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> >>>> Original pads & rotors?? >>>> Oh, Wen, honey, come with me to a track - you're missing >> half the fun >>>> of >>>> that car! <G> >>>> >>>> Donna, always willing to drag folks down the slippery slope >>> >>> Hey Donna, >>> >>> I've heard about your reputation from this list. Too many >> have taken >>> the first bite of the forbidden fruit and are now your umbrella >>> holders ;) You know what they say..once down the slippery >> slope, you >>> can't get back up!!!! >>> >>> Wen >>> 96 M3 - now with a windy commute to work ;) >>> >>> >>> _________________________________________________________________ >>> Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at >>> http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. >>> >> >> >> ************************************************************* >> List Commands >> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the >> mailing list. >> DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >> GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). >> >> To issue a command/request to the server: >> Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >> subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >> ************************************************************* >> >> >
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Sheesh... - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:18:40 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Sheesh... > OK guy and gals...you are all starting to scare me a > little...OK a lot... > > I am going to pick up my new to me 1992 325ITS car next weekend.... > > and I am way past the start of the slippery slope... Hi Chris, Sounds a lot like what I've done. Is the car already prepped & ready to race? If it is, this is the smart way to go IMO. I spent the better part of a year prepping an E30 M3 that I co-drove, and watched (and occasionally "supervised" :-)) Donna prep her car, and buying one already prepped I fell will limit the "money pit" aspect. There's an awful lot of time & expense taking a street car and turning it into a decent track/race car. given the condition of the 325is I bought, I spent a minimal amount of time & money getting it ready: - Race seat & harness - About a day and a half to re-install the cage & seat - JimC intake (already had chip) Since I've had it, and not counting the overrev :-), I've added a LS diff and changed the front brake pads. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP
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#6. PSS9 - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:24:09 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: PSS9 > Does anyone know of a good reason not to buy a Bilstein PSS9 coilover > suspension system for a 1995 M3? DON'T! :) yes, there are two really good reasons. I almost bought them for my M3. First of all, they come with 325i/328i style sway bar links, (in other words, none, because the other 3 series mount to the control arm) which means you have to get mounts welded up to the Bilstein shock bodies. Second, they have terrible tire clearance, and you have to run spacers even with stock wheels. Get the H&R coilovers. Non adjustable, but muuuuuuch better. I love mine, even after a year and a half... -kit 97 m3, supercharged, H&R'd, with sway bars sitting in the garage -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:24:12 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... > So Mr. Grouchy isn't going to the track this weekend? > > (Note to newbies: withdrawal is an ugly thing - you have to > get regular > fixes) Oh, then you'll be a REAL joy come the Sears Point race <g>. Grouchy? Nah. With the references to "crack", "taste", and "forbidden fruit", I was having to avert my eyes. And I'm at work. (FYI, I'll be at Sears *next* weekend, and THill the following Sat. :-P~) Jim ....Ok, make a teeny bit grouchy at not being able to make the LV race :-)
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... - from Scott Chan
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:24:25 -0800 From: Scott Chan <scottch@juniper.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Sheesh... Realistically, a dedicated track car can save time. The track car can spend a week in the shop waiting for a brake job at the your and the shop's convenience. If it was a daily driver, you would have to squeeze it in between commutes, and that's tough. --Scott Jeff Stowe wondered, "Actually, the thing that amazes me about racers is not the cash being spent, its the time. Where do you get the time to do all the stuff that's needed to keep your car together and track ready."
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#9. Re: [E36M3] electric & viscous fans - part 2 - from andy radin
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:27:54 -0800 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] electric & viscous fans - part 2 >> is ALWAYS TURNING. The fact that it is ALWAYS >> TURNING with some drag means that it eats HP. >DEAD WRONG. >Viscous clutch only locks up when the engine is hot (same as the electrical >fan running when the temp sensor detects high temps). with our recent with 33 degree F mornings, you'd expect the fan clutch at cold start to be fully disengaged and spin freely, right? It isn't. I can stop it at idle with some effort, but multiply that effort times 7000 rpm... Maybe this is better with a brand new clutch.
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#10. RE: [E36M3] re: Track Costs (was: Sheesh) - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 11:31:42 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] re: Track Costs (was: Sheesh) > Please stop this thread! Nah, it's too much fun watching OTHER people twitch for a change <bfg>. > Actually, the thing that amazes me about racers is not the > cash being spent, > its the time. Where do you get the time to do all the stuff > that's needed > to keep your car together and track ready. I am amazed. So was I once I stopped having to do it. Not having to swap pads & rotors, install or load track tires, etc. really saves time. Basically load up the track gear, get gas for the car & coffee for the driver (yes, there's a cupholder in the race car; shut up Donna :-)), and go. Oh, wait, that's probably not making you fell better. Sorry <g>. > I > am just trying > to get ready for an HPDE at Sears next week Which group are you signed up for? I'll be in Group 4. > Oh well, it looks > like it will be > a weekend of 2:00am driveway work. Driveway?!? At least come over & use my garage. And perhaps you've heard, I'm a very skilled supervisor :-) Good luck with the prep work and see you next weekend, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP
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#11. electric fan? - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2002 14:36:42 -0500 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: electric fan? > DEAD WRONG. > Viscous clutch only locks up when the engine is hot (same as the electrical > fan running when the temp sensor detects high temps). Other times in free > wheels or runs at various degrees of lock up (another reason viscous clutch > is better than on-off electrical fan). The fan clutch on my car has never freewheeled, even the brand new replacement (and the one that came in the dinan kit). Even in the winter at idle, the engine is spinning the fan. Think about it... 1/4 hp through the alternator for an electric fan, vs. spinning a mechanical fan at 7000rpm? You are making the assumption that the mechanical fan freewheels, and the fact of the matter is, it does not. Even when the car is cold, stick a rolled up newpaper into the fan blades... you get confetti. Try to spin the fan when the engine is off... doesn't turn freely, does it? If the viscous clutch really worked, yah, it'd be a great design, but the fact of the matter is, it doesn't. 10 amp motor at 14.4 volts means that you're pulling 144 watts from the alternator... Horsepower = Watts x 0.00134 so, your 144 watts x 0.00134 divided by 60% alternator efficiency is 0.32 horsepower. In other words, its the difference between having your HK stereo on or off. :) -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .