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#1. Re: [E36M3] Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. - from Matt Henson
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:05:12 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. I'm not sure how scientific this is but, FWIW, I use Mobil 1 and I also don't have the rattle. My car has about 72K on it. It would be interesting to hear from someone else who has a the VANOS noise and has switched.. -Matt --- "DiVincenti, A.J." <ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu> wrote: > Here is the kicker - the VANOS rattle is > gone! I can't believe > it myself. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#2. Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 14:12:10 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more on 1/28/02 10:27 AM, it was written: > In one of the tests, I ran the car back-to-back with and without the viscous > fan (along with the other modifications that Josh recommended and were pointed > out before). The results show a gain in peak HP of just under 4HP and a > maximum gain of over 7HP at around 6,500 RPM. The maximum torque gain is about > 6 ft-lbs. also around 6,500 RPM. After the test, I have not put the fan back > on the car and have had no troubles at all with the car running hot. This was > about 2 months ago and granted, I have not autocrossed or tracked the car and > it hasn't been too hot in the NYC area but I have been stuck in heavy traffic > without any problems. OK, real data! > In other news, will someone please come out with a Rootes-type > supercharger for the M3? I went for a ride in a 2001 ZO6 Corvette > yesterday that had some minor work done to it and the owner estimates > 415HP. When he accelerated onto the highway and shifted from 2-3 and > then 3-4, you would have sworn that someone swung a large two by four > and smacked the back of the seat. I was literally pressed back into my > seat. It was amazing! The only faster car that I have ever been in was a > slightly worked Ferrari F40 but even that didn't feel as brute force as > this - it was more like a jet engine that just kept accelerating (and > sounded like it too with the 2 big turbos spooling up). OK, now I'm confused. The Z06 doesn't have forced induction. If the 2001 you rode in has had turbos installed, it for damn sure better have more than 415 hp, which is only 30 over stock for that year. But yes, even a bone stock Z06 is brutally fast. Neil 96 M3
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:20:24 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. Well, here's my experience: No problem with the VANOS running for the first 20k miles switching between Mobil 1 synthetic or the BMW synthetic. Then one day, I decided the spoil the car and wanted to put in Redline 10W40. Made a special trip to Steve D's to pick up a case...got tapped from behind by an inattentive Saturn driving woman! D'oh. Get home, do the oil change. After a few hundred miles, came back home from going out. Ate dinner and they hopped back into the car to go somewhere. Upon backing out, I noticed the car made a funny sound. VANOS was shot. Took it into the dealer and they replaced the main adjusting unit. Of course, they didn't change the oil so Redline was still in there. All was well, of course, driving away from the dealer. After a few hundred miles (<200), the car starts to sound a little funny. Guess what comes out immediately? Redline motor oil with only a few hundred miles on it. Mobil One back and it's been +10k miles since...car runs fine. Redline motor oil, IMO, sucks. Redline anything, IMO, might not even be worth it. Wasn't it Skip who said that they wouldn't even divulge white papers? Next tranny fluid flush and rear diff flush will be with Mobil 1. Anyone want some cheap Redline D4ATF, 75W90, and 10W40 motor oil? I have a bunch lying around. ...real cheap. Make an offer...hahahaha. Chester --- Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> wrote: > I'm not sure how scientific this is but, FWIW, I use > Mobil 1 and I also don't have the rattle. My car has > about 72K on it. It would be interesting to hear from > someone else who has a the VANOS noise and has > switched.. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Great stuff seeking new owners in Yahoo! Auctions! http://auctions.yahoo.com
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#4. Redline and vanos rattle - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:42:16 -0800 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: Redline and vanos rattle AJ commented: Check this out. Several months ago I had complained about the VANOS rattle. I noticed the noise only after I switched to Red Line 10 w 40 but didn't make the connection until after searching the archives. Others have noted a connection between with the oil and the noise. I had decided to live with the rattle, but when it was time for my next oil change I switched to Mobile 1 10 w 30. Here is the kicker - the VANOS rattle is gone! I can't believe it myself. AJ AJ: When I purchased my LTW in July 99 it had been using Mobil One I believe. It had about 22K on the car. I put in redline in the drivetrain as one of the first things I did. Well, when I did so the vanos rattle appeared. It happens around 1800-1900 RPM. I'm still using redline and the car has seen about 10K miles. It is a dedicated track and AX car and is driven to the track. Haven't had any problems at all but the rattle persists. I suspect it would go away if I switched to Mobil One, but, I like the redline products. That's my story and I'm sticking with it! Marc 95M3CSL with the "Redline" rattle
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more - from Reid Conti
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more > > In other news, will someone please come out with a Rootes-type > > supercharger for the M3? I went for a ride in a 2001 ZO6 Corvette > > yesterday that had some minor work done to it and the owner estimates > > 415HP. When he accelerated onto the highway and shifted from 2-3 and > > then 3-4, you would have sworn that someone swung a large two by four > > and smacked the back of the seat. I was literally pressed back into my > > seat. It was amazing! The only faster car that I have ever been in was a > > slightly worked Ferrari F40 but even that didn't feel as brute force as > > this - it was more like a jet engine that just kept accelerating (and > > sounded like it too with the 2 big turbos spooling up). > > OK, now I'm confused. The Z06 doesn't have forced induction. If the 2001 you > rode in has had turbos installed, it for damn sure better have more than 415 > hp, which is only 30 over stock for that year. > > But yes, even a bone stock Z06 is brutally fast. Everyone seems somehow unaware that the F40 is the vehicle with the twin turbos. Notice that he's comparing the jet engine effect of the F40 and it's turbos to the smack in the back of the head of the NA Z06. He's asking about SC's for his M3 so he can have closer-to-Z06 power. - reid
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#6. 100w H1s in the SF Bay Area? - from Birkhead, Rob
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:51:27 -0800 From: "Birkhead, Rob" <rbirkhead@bb.directv.com> Subject: 100w H1s in the SF Bay Area? I have gone through 2 H1 bulbs in my Euro headlights in the past couple of months. I bought my last set from Rallylights.com (Hellas) and these all burned out very fast. Does anyone know where I can find a set of these that will last longer than a few months? Thanks, Rob
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#7. RE: [E36M3] BMW Antifreeze only? - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:53:00 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] BMW Antifreeze only? > In reading the procedures, most specify BMW antifreeze. Why > would a BMW > engine need a different antifreeze than what the rest of the > other engines > out there? > > Is there something special about BMW antifreeze? I think it's specified because it's phosphate- and silcate-free. I seem to recall reading/hearing this, but I'm not 100% sure. > Can anyone make a recommendation of an "after market" > antifreeze? (Seems > like a strange concept - "After Market Antifreeze") I'm sure there's one that meets the "-free" requirements, maybe someone else knows. But, IMO, I'd stick with the BMW coolant. My 2 cents, Jim Bassett
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#8. Racing Event - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:54:33 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Racing Event I have rented out Holtville Raceway east of San Diego for March 2-3. The cost is $100 for both days. If any of you are interested let me know. Mark Radelow _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 19:55:55 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more For comparison I was talking to a friend of a friend who works for R&T and he had the change to drive a 911 GT2 for a day. He said the GT2 _OFF BOOST_ is about as fast as the Z06. HOLY MOLEY! Mark From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Reply-To: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 13:47:28 -0600 Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:48:14 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Dyno testing without the fan and more > > In other news, will someone please come out with a Rootes-type > > supercharger for the M3? I went for a ride in a 2001 ZO6 Corvette > > yesterday that had some minor work done to it and the owner estimates > > 415HP. When he accelerated onto the highway and shifted from 2-3 and > > then 3-4, you would have sworn that someone swung a large two by four > > and smacked the back of the seat. I was literally pressed back into my > > seat. It was amazing! The only faster car that I have ever been in was a > > slightly worked Ferrari F40 but even that didn't feel as brute force as > > this - it was more like a jet engine that just kept accelerating (and > > sounded like it too with the 2 big turbos spooling up). > > OK, now I'm confused. The Z06 doesn't have forced induction. If the 2001 you > rode in has had turbos installed, it for damn sure better have more than 415 > hp, which is only 30 over stock for that year. > > But yes, even a bone stock Z06 is brutally fast. Everyone seems somehow unaware that the F40 is the vehicle with the twin turbos. Notice that he's comparing the jet engine effect of the F40 and it's turbos to the smack in the back of the head of the NA Z06. He's asking about SC's for his M3 so he can have closer-to-Z06 power. - reid ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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#10. Re: Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. - from Jay Miller
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:57:18 -0800 From: "Jay Miller" <jjmiller6@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV></DIV> <DIV>AJ,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I seemed to have the same cure. But in reverse. I've been using Mobil 1 since I've got the car, had a rattle/squeak which would occur only on start ups. I had an Inspection II done and they put LubroMoly, and the squeak went away (THought it was the inspeciton) Shortly after my next oly change the rattle/squeak. Maybe I'm completely insane. But I think I'll make my next oil change back to LubroMoly and let you all know.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Jay</DIV> <DIV>'95 M3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:18:04 -0600<BR>From: "DiVincenti, A.J." <<A href="http://lw3fd.law3.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/compose?curmbox=F000000001&a=a902d7d2bac9fcc55f4b041153e30e7e&mailto=1&to=ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu&msg=MSG1012245123.29&start=2020926&len=14562&src=&type=x" target=_top>ADiVin@lsuhsc.edu</A>><BR>Subject: Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle.<BR><BR>Check this out. Several months ago I had complained about the VANOS rattle.<BR>I noticed the noise only after I switched to Red Line 10 w 40 but didn't<BR>make the connection until after searching the archives. Others have noted a<BR>connection between with the oil and the noise. I had decided to live with<BR>the rattle, but when it was time for my next oil change I switched to Mobile<BR>1 10 w 30. Here is the kicker - the VANOS rattle is gone! I can't believe<BR>it myself.<BR><BR>Chester and I talked about this privately but we figured the damage was<BR>done. I was very surprised the rattle simply went away due to the change in<BR>oil.<BR><BR><BR>AJ<BR><BR></DIV></div><br clear=all><hr>MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: <a href='http://go.msn.com/bql/hmtag3_etl_EN.asp'>Click Here</a><br></html>
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#11. RE: [E36M3] Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 11:59:40 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Mobile 1 Cured my VANOS rattle. > I'm not sure how scientific this is but, FWIW, I use > Mobil 1 and I also don't have the rattle. My car has > about 72K on it. It would be interesting to hear from > someone else who has a the VANOS noise and has > switched.. My data points: 1998 M3/4 - ~110K miles, Red Line 10W40, previous heavy track & autox use, no Vanos noise. 1993 325is - ~87K miles, Mobil 1 15W50, recent rebuilt head, Vanos noise Go figure :-) Cheers, Jim Bassett