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#1. RE: [E36M3] How does central locking work - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:41:56 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] How does central locking work Yeah, but we know your '95 is defective already, it's an automatic. (Sorry, could NOT resist :-)) Jim...really needs to leave work and head to THill. Now. > -----Original Message----- > From: donna seeley [mailto:dlseeley@earthlink.net] > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 3:38 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How does central locking work > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:36:51 -0800 > From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] How does central locking work > > My 95 M3 does not unlock the doors when I unlock the trunk. > > Donna > > On Friday, February 22, 2002, at 03:17 PM, jim.bassett@alloptic.com > wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 15:06:54 -0800 > > From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com > > Subject: RE: [E36M3] How does central locking work > > > > AFAIK, yes, unlocking the trunk should unlock the doors. > > > > However, what year is your M3? My '98 M3 works this way, > but the 1993 > > 325 > > does not. > > > > (I guess that raises more questions than it answers. Sorry :-)) > > > > Jim Bassett > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Michael Schaublin [mailto:mike_schaublin@hotmail.com] > > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:58 PM > > To: E36M3 > > Subject: [E36M3] How does central locking work > > > > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:41:45 -0500 From: "Michael Schaublin" > > Subject: How > > does central locking work > > Should unlocking the trunk unlock the doors? I opened the > trunk today, > > and > > the doors unlocked. That hasn't happened in the 5 years > I've owned the > > car. > > And it only happened once. Which mode is normal? > > > > Mike > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the > mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#2. Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:44:45 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? Peter, >>The question I have to ask is, what am I doing wrong? << On your last street warpage, have you confirmed that they are warped via runout gauge, or are you assuming theyre warped because of a vibration yourve picked up of the steering wheel during braking ? The folks at Kline told me that they think its very hard to warp rotors on the street...Even with the most aggressive street driving, the conditions dont come close to a track situation. I described my situation to them which I thought was warpage too...In mine the degree of vibration seems to come and go...Sometimes its pronounced; other times, its minimal, each time measured from 60 to 70 mph.. They thought it was more likely the pads, having transferred material to the rotors, are causing less vibration as the material wears off, and more as its deposited. Anyway, Im going to try a new set of pads first...Im currently using something called Rotex, but Ive experienced this vibration problem now on two different sets of rotors each time using Rotex pads..Im going to try probably the Hawk street pads, after applying some light sanding to the rotor surfaces, and see if it makes a difference...If it does, great...If not, I'll have to try a new set of rotors too. But Im guessing its the pads in my case. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#3. Re: [E36M3] How does central locking work - from Ken Dobyns
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:59:43 -0800 From: Ken Dobyns <ken_d@mac.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How does central locking work Like others, on my '98 the trunk unlocks when I unlock the doors and the doors unlock when I unlock the trunk. The thing I have always found to be crazy, given the usual German attention to detail is the valet key. It will not unlock the trunk (key won't fit), but when you unlock the door, the trunk unlocks. Not to mention that once in the car, you simply fold down the rear seat for access to the trunk. Go figure. Ken Dobyns Portland, OR '98 M3
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#4. Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:11:03 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? Jeff, >>According to some, there is no such thing as warped rotors, but rather, uneven deposition of transfer compound on the rotors.<< Great article! Thanks much....The guys at TC Kline have told me as much, but this verifies it....What I earlier thought might be warpage in my second set of rotors on my '99 Im pretty sure now is the transfer of my Rotex pad material...Im going to try a new set of Hawk street pads first, and if their use doesnt remove the material, I'll have to try some new rotors. Thanks again. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#5. Re: [E36M3] How does central locking work - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:24:39 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] How does central locking work You're somewhat wrong there. You can use the regular key to turn the trunk lock 90 degrees clockwise and pull the key out (so that the slit is horizontal). Now you can unlock/lock the doors to your heart's content and the trunk will stay closed. You see...vallet key...how will they get into the trunk? Now, yes...you can get in through the split folding seats, but some cars didn't come with that (4 doors) and I think the most important thing (sometimes) is the spare wheel and people stealing that. Try taking that wheel out through the split folding seats ;) Chester > The thing I have always found to be crazy, given the usual German > attention to detail is the valet key. It will not unlock the trunk (key > won't fit), but when you unlock the door, the trunk unlocks. Not to > mention that once in the car, you simply fold down the rear seat for > access to the trunk. Go figure. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - Coverage of the 2002 Olympic Games http://sports.yahoo.com
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? - from NickG
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:40:48 -0500 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? That's exactly what happened to my Euro floating rotors: stock pads in front and PBR Deluxe in back (don't ask ;) Warped the Euro's with just street driving. Installed Pagid street pads all around with new Brembos up front, and all's been fine. Nick > We had a guy down here in San Diego that was warping rotors at the same pace > as you. The only thing we found that he was doing different was running > aftermarket pads on front and stock pads on the rear. The theory was that > because the effectiveness of the rear pads was less than the front the > fronts were doing more work overall and thus warping the rotors. Just an > idea... > > Mark
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 17:54:28 -0800 From: "Bob Lenarcik" <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? Paul, I too had the exact same problem and guess what? It was the front control arm bushings! Several sources suggested them and even after removing them, I couldn't tell visually that they were worn out. I replaced them with a set of Powerflex bushings and now braking is very smooth. I had 75k miles on my car when I replaced them. and I also discovered that the stock bushings go as quick as 30k miles - even on e46 cars. If changing pads and sanding off the rotor deposits doesn't change things, I would suggest you look at the bushings. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Paul Elliott [mailto:elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net] Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:48 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:44:45 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? Peter, <snip> In mine the degree of vibration seems to come and go...Sometimes its pronounced; other times, its minimal, each time measured from 60 to 70 mph.. <snip> Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 20:59:24 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? Thanks Bob...I still think its the pads/rotors because about a year ago, I experienced the same symptoms, and at that point I changed both pads and rotors, and the symptoms disappeared, for a few mos anyway...But since the symptoms are similar I really dont know....I think I'll partake in first trying new pads...If they alone wont do it because the friction deposits have changed into cementite (see article referenced in the digest ), then I'll try new rotors....If together they dont do it, then onto the bushings....Luckily, none of these is too expensive to prevent trying all three if need be. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Lenarcik" <lenarcik@pacbell.net> To: "'Paul Elliott'" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net>; "'E36M3'" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 8:54 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > Paul, > > I too had the exact same problem and guess what? It was the front > control arm bushings! Several sources suggested them and even after > removing them, I couldn't tell visually that they were worn out. I > replaced them with a set of Powerflex bushings and now braking is very > smooth. I had 75k miles on my car when I replaced them. and I also > discovered that the stock bushings go as quick as 30k miles - even on > e46 cars. > > If changing pads and sanding off the rotor deposits doesn't change > things, I would suggest you look at the bushings. > > - Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Elliott [mailto:elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net] > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:48 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 19:44:45 -0500 > From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > > Peter, > > <snip> In mine the degree of vibration seems to > come and go...Sometimes its pronounced; other times, its minimal, each > time > measured from 60 to 70 mph.. > > <snip> > > Paul Elliott > --------------------------------------------------------- > '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank > pulley: > 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; > Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio > > >
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#9. Anyone with 17x9's all around? - from Rob
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:58:09 -0700 From: "Rob" <motor@cadvision.com> Subject: Anyone with 17x9's all around? I know some of you guys run 17x9's on your cars. I just bought a set of 17x9" et32mm wheels and I am trying to predict what type of tire rubbing issues I will have when I install them. My plan is to run 245/40/17's all around and I have approx -2.5deg of camber F & R. Any first hand experience with a combo like this? Do the rear lips need to be rolled much? Will the tire/wheel be too close to the muffler? I have previously run 17x8.5" et37 with no issues, but I am adding 1/2" in rim width and pushing the offset out another 5mm! TIA, Rob
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 06:55:02 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? This is an excellent article and explains a lot. Last October at Watkins Glen was the first time I thought I had warped my rotors. On the way home I had a horroble vibration every time I touched the brakes. I was sure my rotors were toast but I had heard about pad deposits and hoped that was the problem. On the drive home I braked hard at every opportunity to try to smooth them out, figuring that if they were warped I couldn't hurt anything and if it was pad material I might clean it up some. By the time I made it home to Saratoga, they were almost as smooth as before the track and within a week they were back to normal. I'm still running stock BMW pads with no problem on the track or street. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > -----Original Message----- > From: The Abels [mailto:aAbel@austin.rr.com] > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 5:28 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 16:18:48 -0600 > From: "The Abels" <aAbel@austin.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > > According to some, there is no such thing as warped rotors, but rather, > uneven deposition of transfer compound on the rotors. > > http://www.stoptech.com/whitepapers/warped_rotors_myth.htm > > Jeff > 97 M3/4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <peter@guagenti.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 4:07 PM > Subject: [E36M3] Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > > > > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 13:59:31 US/Pacific > > From: peter@guagenti.com > > Subject: Warped Rotors -- Improving the situation? > > > > I am one of those people that seems to be perpetually warping my rotors. > I've > > owned my car for only a couple of years and have warped 3 sets > of rotors, > my > > latest victim being a set of brembos that are only a few months old. > > > > I warped my first pair (LTW rotors) on track. The second pair > (US rotors) > were > > also warped after a long weekend at ThunderHill. The third > (Drilled/Slotted > > Brembos) were done from hard street driving. > > > > The question I have to ask is, what am I doing wrong? > > > > I remember a great thread a couple of years ago about improving your > braking > > technique to minimize this, but I wasn't paying attention to it > (I wasn't > > pushing the car hard enough to warp anything). Can anyone provide a > summary of > > this? > > > > If it's potentially an equipment issue, can anyone recommend how I can > resolve > > it? I'm not racing, so I'm doubtful whether I've earned the need for > brake > > ducts. What do other folks think? Jim -- you've driven with me, what do > you > > think? > > > > To further complicate matters, the brakes have felt pretty soft lately. > > Flushing the fluid completely (ATE Blue) and bleeding at the calipers > hasn't > > really resolved that. I think I may be using more pressure > than necessary > due > > to this lack of feel. > > > > Any advice is appreciated. > > > > -peterg > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------------- > > This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. > > http://www.hispeed.com > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >