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#1. Euro airbox vs. cold air intakes - from Carl Stern
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:43:28 -0700 From: Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> Subject: Euro airbox vs. cold air intakes I've put off my Jim C chip purchase since I want to do the whole Euro HFM, intake, chip combo. I'm wondering whether to do the euro airbox or the cone type intake from Jim C, Dinan, etc. I assume the cold air cone type would be louder than the euro airbox which in turn is louder than the stock US one. I also assume there must be some additional power gain with the open type over the Euro box. Can someone quantify the differences in noise and power, assuming I go with the Euro HFM and Jim C chip? Also, does the Jim C foam filter require oiling or is it used dry? What are the air filter options for the euro airbox? Thanks, Carl Stern 95 M3 17k
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#2. Karting (OT) - from Ed Tang
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 15:36:32 -0800 (PST) From: Ed Tang <etangf1@yahoo.com> Subject: Karting (OT) Hi all, This is off topic but I thought some of you might be interested, especially since this happens a bit before autocross and club racing events happen. If you are in the Illinois, Indiana, Michigan area, there is a karting event taking place at South Bend Raceway park. I ran 5 events out there last year. It has a lot of elevation changes with real nice hairpins and chicanes you can set someone up to pass in. The karts are brand new with fresh Honda motors. It's really cheap too, The first time I went, I spent $275. Here are the details. Thanks for the bandwidth. OK, here's the deal. (Some of you are hearing about this for the first time so call me for more details.) Date: April 7 2002 Place: South Bend Raceway Park, South Bend, IN. Time: 7:00am Registration, 8:00am mandatory drivers meeting, 9:00am practice, 11:00 Qualifying, we'll break for lunch, then do 3 10 lap heat races and a 15 lap feature in the afternoon. Kids, 8 to 14, at least 48" tall, will get a chance during the lunch break, to try out the karts around the short oval. Cost: $100/driver 1st class, $50 each additional class, $10 pit pass/non-driver (pit pass included in the driver entry fee) Spectators free. Lunch will be served but you may want to bring along a cooler with snacks and juice....it will be a full day of fun. Classes: Ladies Masters...over 40 Pro..........experienced Novice......little or no experience Heavy.......drivers weighing 220lbs or more Stars of Tomorrow......15-19 Make your check out to: KRM and mail them to me: Phil Gordon, 1519 Colfax Street, Evanston, IL. 60201-2320 Please have your checks in by Mar 7. Pass this along to any racer or wanna be racers. We need 35 people (we have 16 so far) to make this happen. We're limiting it to 108 entries to maximize track time. If I missed anything, you can call me or e-mail (coolbreezeracer@aol.com) with questions. wk phone: 847.647.6379 toll free 800.994.3579 x76379 C'ya....Phil __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Greetings - Send FREE e-cards for every occasion! http://greetings.yahoo.com
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#3. Re: Need softer suspension for my M3 - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:39:39 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Need softer suspension for my M3 From: "Luis Rueda" <Luis_Rueda@Interliant.com> > I'm still wondering if the front suspension of the M3 > would fit into the MCoupe but nobody seem to on 2/27/02 5:33 PM, Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> wrote: > I haven't done this swap yet, so I can't verify it, but I'm told that the > front struts on the M Coupe are identical to the E36 M3. So are the > brakes. The rear suspension on the M Coupe came from the E30 chassis, with > some reinforcements to the rear trailing arms to handle the extra torque. Well, the 99 Coupe doesn't have the same p/n strut as its counterpart 99 M3, much less as Luis' 95 M3. Which doesn't mean they won't fit - could well be physically interchangeable but different shock calibration. Neil 96 M3
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Euro airbox vs. cold air intakes - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 17:58:32 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro airbox vs. cold air intakes Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> wrote: > > I've put off my Jim C chip purchase since I want to do the > whole Euro HFM, intake, chip combo. Carl, Good thinking! > I'm wondering whether to do the euro airbox or the cone type > intake from Jim C, Dinan, etc. > I assume the cold air cone type would be louder than the euro > airbox which in turn is louder than the stock US one. The euro box is not much if at all louder than the stock one. Pulling an internal baffle out of either airbox does make it louder. So is dropping an internal K&N filter. > I also assume there must be some additional power gain with > the open type over the Euro box. Can someone quantify > the differences in noise and power, assuming I go with the > Euro HFM and Jim C chip? You are in luck. In the process of identifying a defective ERT chip I had made one too many trips to the dyno and used the extra runs for back-to-back comparisons of an ECIS intake with a big cone K&N filter vs. euro box with paper filter vs. euro box with K&N drop-in filter. Here are the final results after I gave up on ERT and spent another $250 on a proper Jim C chip: Max HP TQ ECIS 227.7 216.3 Euro K&N 224.0 212.8 Euro paper 223.9 211.0 Sorry I don't have any data from the 'before' runs handy with me. > Also, does the Jim C foam filter require oiling or is it used > dry? I do believe you oil it with something, but the important thing is kerosene/soapy water cleaning every 20?K miles. > What are the air filter options for the euro airbox? Paper or drop-in K&N. The latter does not provide any measurable improvement but is liable to suck in more garbage into your engine. YMMV, alex f
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Need softer suspension for my M3 - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:08:45 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need softer suspension for my M3 Luis, Bilstein only makes misvalved Sport shocks for E36 M3. I would suggest you take a look at Koni's in conjunction with stock springs. I've found the above combination to be Caddy-soft after driving on TC's TrackLine kit (Koni SA's with H&R Stage 2 front and Stage 4 rear springs) for a few weeks. I took the 1.5+" lower H&Rs back out after living though a few belly scraping induced heart attacks. Once at a local shop during a failed attempt to get my car on the allignment rack due to clearance problems. Twice at gas stations driving over an access hole cover. The "oh shit there goes my oil pan" sensation got old very fast. I wasn't too crazy about the roller coaster street ride on those springs, but was almost willing to live with them had it not been for the ground clearance problems. If anyone wants sub-1K mile old TrackLine H&R spring kit or is tempted to trade their H&R OE Sport springs for mine, drop me a line. alex f |---------+---------------------------> | | "Luis Rueda" | | | <Luis_Rueda@Inte| | | rliant.com> | | | | | | 02/27/02 09:13 | | | AM | | | Please respond | | | to "Luis Rueda" | | | | |---------+---------------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> | | cc: | | Subject: [E36M3] Need softer suspension for my M3 | >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 10:04:44 -0500 From: "Luis Rueda" <Luis_Rueda@Interliant.com> Subject: Need softer suspension for my M3 I have Bilstein/H&R sports on my '95 M3 right now but since I just bought a '99 MCoupe & the GF drives the M3 most of the time now, I would like to revert the suspension back to stock as close as possible (not as low & looking for a softer ride). However I'm planning to keep the RD swaybars, X-brace & strut tower brace. I wanted your opinions about how to go about doing this. Should I go w/Bilsteins HD's (are they even available for the E36 M3?) & stock springs? Are there other better options? I'm still wondering if the front suspension of the M3 would fit into the MCoupe but nobody seem to know for sure. Anybody? Bueller? Ferris? Thanks a bunch, Luis '99 MCoupe '95 M3 '86 325
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Need softer suspension for my M3 - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:21:15 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need softer suspension for my M3 > Bilstein only makes misvalved Sport shocks for E36 M3. > I would suggest you take a look at Koni's in conjunction with stock > springs. (Trying to keep track of all the suspension talk :-)) So you're running the Koni SA's with stock springs, Alex? I just had the bearing hats unswapped on the M3 (it's a street-only car now), and am considering replacing the shocks/struts soon (I have to stop spending so much money on the race car first...BWAHAHAHAHA, yeah right :-)). Anyway, just curious about your set up. I'm not looking to lower the car, or to make the ride much harsher than stock. But I'm thinking 110K+ miles on the original shock/struts is about enough <bg>. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - maybe a wee bit floaty 1993 325is #44 KP - stiff, way stiff, maybe too stiff :-)
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Dual-pickup Fuel Pump / Pickup in Tank Writeup? - from jim.bassett@alloptic.com
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:22:43 -0800 From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Dual-pickup Fuel Pump / Pickup in Tank Writeup? > Another question I have is it legal to have a second fuel > pump in BMW CCA club racing? Yes. See: http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/2002%20Series/02%20Rules.htm Allowed in Stock class, and therefore in all classes. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP - single fuel pump, for the moment :-)
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Euro airbox vs. cold air intakes - from The Abels
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 18:33:10 -0600 From: "The Abels" <aAbel@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro airbox vs. cold air intakes > I've put off my Jim C chip purchase since I want to do the > whole Euro HFM, intake, chip combo. > I'm wondering whether to do the euro airbox or the cone type > intake from Jim C, Dinan, etc. > I assume the cold air cone type would be louder than the euro > airbox which in turn is louder than the stock US one. > I also assume there must be some additional power gain with > the open type over the Euro box. Can someone quantify > the differences in noise and power, assuming I go with the > Euro HFM and Jim C chip? > Also, does the Jim C foam filter require oiling or is it used > dry? What are the air filter options for the euro airbox? > Thanks, Carl, I have no experience with the Euro box. However, in your quest for the best intake, my thought is that the readily available cold air intakes (Dinan, ECIS, Jim C., AA, etc.) are roughly equal. Boston Performance Group did an ECIS v. Jim C. shootout years ago, before they closed their doors. I happened to come across a site that preserved the test. Thought you might be interested. http://www.logun.org/intake.htm Jeff 97 M3/4, ECIS'd
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#9. Re: [E36M3] 540/740 MAF for 95 M3 - from NickG
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 20:49:41 -0500 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 540/740 MAF for 95 M3 That's an HFM from a 318 1.8L M44 engine, or one of the two HFMs from a 750/850i. Nick > In my continuing search for a used 540/740 MAF meter for > my 95 M3. I called up VINES used parts and they sent me > a 740 MAF meter BUT the Bosch # on it don't match what I > need, I think? > The # on the MAF is 0-280-217-110 > and from what 2 list members told me, I need either 0- > 280-217-800 or 806. Will this 110 work? It looks smaller > than the stock unit now. > thanks
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#10. Will these wheels work? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2002 21:04:06 -0500 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Will these wheels work? If I buy a set of Hamman PG wheels in 8.5X18 fronts and 9X18 rears with a 38mm offset, 1)will these fit without fender rolling and/or spacers required? 2)What size tires will work? Requirements are that they dont screw with the ASC computer... Normally, with 18" wheels, in order to stay as close as possible to the stock diameter to play nice with the aSC, I would want to go with 225x40-18 up front for an overall diamter of 25.05, and 245x35-18 for the rears for overall diameter of 24.75. Both of these would be a hair within the stock stagger, and would therefore be perfect for the ASC. HOwever, only the 8.5" rims are available to me for the fronts, and in order to run the 225s up front, I would need the 8" rims...I think 8.5" is too wide to put the 225 tires.......And unfortunaely I think this small measurement screws up the entire purchase. Any ideas? Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; < 40K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Rotex pads;X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio