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#1. RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:06:44 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools I think that going to a racing school is very dependent on the person going. There are a lot of different factors thrown in a racing school that might be obvious to some and others would have never guessed it. I went to the Skip Barber school at Mid-Ohio. I had a blast at the school but I didn't feel like I came away learning what I wanted to about racing. The reason is because I have been exposed to racing for a long time. So I knew a lot of the lingo and lot of the stuff they mentioned. At the time of the school though I only completed about 6-8 drivers schools with the BMWCCA and was only a B group student. So I don't think it is all dependent on what run group you are in or anything like that. It is dependent on the person and if they have the understanding and maturity to complete a racing school. I don't think there is any certain set time. Seth Thomas www.m3ltw.com > -----Original Message----- > From: twisty M3 [mailto:twistym3@hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:53 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools > > > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:46:20 -0800 > From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools > > That's good to know. While I felt perfectly comfortable in B > group, I guess > I'd be stupid to jump into a racing school at this point (having > only the 2 > BMW schools [4 total] under my belt). I think I'll wait until I > "graduate" > to A, and then have at least 6 schools as such before I look any further > into the racing school. > > Jonathan "trying hard to curb my enthusiasm" Lawson > > > >From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com > >To: twistym3@hotmail.com, e36m3@bmw-m.net > >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools > >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:04:50 -0800 > > > > > >I'd recommend it to anyone who's been in the 'A' group for a couple of > >schools. It will give you a different sense of track-driving, > and may help > >answer the question whether or not you want to go racing. > > > >My own experience, it was like being a novice student all over > again. Fun, > >but a totally different approach to track driving and I admit, I probably > >wasn't quite ready for all of it. > > > >Cheers, > >Jim Bassett > >1998 M3/4 > >1993 325is #44 KP > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Racing Schools - from donna seeley
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 13:47:50 -0800 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Racing Schools Hi, U.B.! Just keep in mind that the CCA racing schools were designed to fill the gap between A and racing. There are many good A students who (for some reason <g>) don't run open-track with RX7s, Vipers, etc. For them, suddenly jumping from passing-only-on-straights-with-permission to passing-anywhere-anytime is a major adjustment, not to mention rolling starts and monster Porsches for even more adrenaline. They also teach a lot of racing strategy that you just can't get in the super-safe school curriculum. Donna > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 12:46:20 -0800 > From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools > > That's good to know. While I felt perfectly comfortable in B group, I > guess I'd be stupid to jump into a racing school at this point (having > only the 2 BMW schools [4 total] under my belt). I think I'll wait > until I "graduate" to A, and then have at least 6 schools as such > before I look any further into the racing school. > > Jonathan "trying hard to curb my enthusiasm" Lawson > > >> From: jim.bassett@alloptic.com >> >> I'd recommend it to anyone who's been in the 'A' group for a couple of >> schools. It will give you a different sense of track-driving, and may >> help >> answer the question whether or not you want to go racing. >> >> My own experience, it was like being a novice student all over again. >> Fun, >> but a totally different approach to track driving and I admit, I >> probably >> wasn't quite ready for all of it. >> >> Cheers, >> Jim Bassett >> 1998 M3/4 >> 1993 325is #44 KP > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the > message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#3. New Strut Hats - from Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:48:37 -0600 From: "Darling Christopher Maj AMC/CEXR" <Christopher.Darling-02@scott.af.mil> Subject: New Strut Hats Gruppe, I have a '95 M3, and I just ordered (I think) the 96+ strut hats to retrofit. (Thanks Jake and Bob.) Plan is to install them on opposite sides to pick up additional 1/2 degree of negative camber. This is the data I got from Nick Alexander when I ordered "96+ strut bearings": Guide Support (left) 31 33 2 227 897 Guide Support (right) 31 33 2 227 898 Can someone verify these are the right parts? Price is about $75 each. Thanks in advance! Cod Major Chris Darling HQ AMC/CEXR DSN 779-0698, Comm (618) 229-0698
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#4. Track/Suspension Impressions - from Luis Rueda
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:57:27 -0500 From: "Luis Rueda" <Luis_Rueda@Interliant.com> Subject: Track/Suspension Impressions Thanks for the tips Jonathan. I had some questions for those who have w/Koni's & stock springs. I'm getting ready to install them & I was wondering what settings would you guys recommend for a car that it's going to be used as a daily driver (90% of the time). Regards, Luis '99 MCoupe '95 M3 '86 325 -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:27:37 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] Track/Suspension Impressions After a bit of fine-tuning my Koni S/As, I seem to have come up with some settings that I'm very pleased with. I had a few people who were interested to see what the changes would result in, and I figure there's bound to be someone else this could be helpful to, so here's what I've ended up with. It was evident to me just from street driving that something wasn't quite perfect with the suspension set up (Koni S/A, H&R Sports, RD sways). After a bit of toying around with different settings, I thought I'd wait until after another real track weekend to post my final impressions. I've set the Konis a bit different from what I've read posted here, and different from what Jeff at ProParts was suggesting, but I think it's dialed in just right for my tastes. The rears are now set to 2 full turns from soft and the fronts are set at 1.25 turns from soft. This seems to have made the front/rear balance just about perfect and has eliminated the pogo/bouncing feel in the rear that was bothering me. I truly believe that what I have now is the perfect compromise from street/track. Hope some of this feedback helps somebody somewhere. Jonathan L.
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#5. Re: Racing Schools - from D Snyder
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:02:03 -0800 From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: Racing Schools > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:34:35 -0800 > From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> > Subject: [E36M3] Racing Schools > > Just curious about BMW racing schools. Do people show up in street cars, or > do you have to have a more race-friendly car (i.e. cages, extinguishers, > etc.) I'm not looking to race my car at anytime soon, but I think I would > like to learn what it's like to go wheel-to-wheel in a very controlled and > safe environment. I suppose I'd be better off at a genuine racing school, > where "they" supply the cars, but I'm still curious. > > Thanks, > Jonathan L. Almost without exception, you will need a race-friendly car (cage, fire extinguisher, etc), since all race schools that I know of end up with some "practice" races. Your option is not limited to "genuine racing schools, however (such as Skippy, Russell, etc). Many people get into racing (licensed) by borrowing or renting a racecar. While a pro-school might cost you $3500 or more, you can rent a race car for a weekend for $1-2,000 including support (tires, maintenance, help, etc). Add to that $500 entry fee, and this is much cheaper than Skippy, and you will walk away with a license! (yes, the pro-schools can earn you a license, but it is still a hassle). Also, if you do this at an SCCA racing school, you can use the license (which requires 2-3 races) to qualify for a provisional CCA CR license (the reverse won't work as easily). Just remember, if you are getting a checkup (doctor) bring forms for other sanctioning bodies (CCA's is identical to SCCA's) so it is done all at once. Dan
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:21:59 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools Thanks. I've only taken up interest in this within the last couple of years, so I'm sure I'd learn tons. I don't really know if I have the desire to race, but I do want to learn anyway. I honestly don't think I could afford to race on a regular basis unless I shared a car and expenses with someone. At this point, I do think I'm very interested in becoming an instructor for HPDEs though. I'm pretty sure that's where I'd like to go with this for now (okay, maybe not "now," but within the next year or two, or three), but I'll settle for as much seat time as I can get in the meantime. ;) Jonathan L. >From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> >To: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com>, "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Racing Schools >Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:06:44 -0500 > >I think that going to a racing school is very dependent on the person >going. >There are a lot of different factors thrown in a racing school that might >be >obvious to some and others would have never guessed it. I went to the Skip >Barber school at Mid-Ohio. I had a blast at the school but I didn't feel >like I came away learning what I wanted to about racing. The reason is >because I have been exposed to racing for a long time. So I knew a lot of >the lingo and lot of the stuff they mentioned. At the time of the school >though I only completed about 6-8 drivers schools with the BMWCCA and was >only a B group student. So I don't think it is all dependent on what run >group you are in or anything like that. It is dependent on the person and >if they have the understanding and maturity to complete a racing school. I >don't think there is any certain set time. > >Seth Thomas >www.m3ltw.com > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: Racing Schools - from donna seeley
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:26:11 -0800 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Racing Schools Jonathan, Since you asked about the BMW schools and you're local, I'd like to point out that Driving Concepts' racing school doesn't require a cage or extinguisher. I don't know about the SCCA schools. http://www.drivingconcepts.com/overview.html#therate IMHO, the Russell/Barber type schools are perfect for (1) people who have never been on a track & don't want to risk their own car (80% of my class) or (2) serious drivers who can afford the $2500 introductory course before spending another $2500 or so to get to the faster formula cars. The big thing I got out of Russell (besides a nice jacket) was that I prefer sedans to open cars. :) Donna > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:02:03 -0800 > From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> > Subject: Re: Racing Schools > >> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 09:34:35 -0800 >> From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >> Subject: [E36M3] Racing Schools >> >> Just curious about BMW racing schools. Do people show up in street >> cars, >> Thanks, >> Jonathan L. > > Almost without exception, you will need a race-friendly car (cage, fire > extinguisher, etc), since all race schools that I know of end up with > some > "practice" races. > Dan
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#8. Valentine One Programming - from Mike Cornwell
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Cornwell <mcornwell@yahoo.com> Subject: Valentine One Programming I haven't had a chance to read the list for a few months, so perhaps this has been posted before. Ever since I bought my Valentine One RADAR detector, the only thing that I thought I would change on it would be the ability to disable X-Band alerts, since I don't think any departments use those ancient guns anymore, but most supermarkets still do! Anyways, I was looking for something on the web, and stumbled onto a C5 site, which had the following link, which describes how to do this, and alot more with your Valentine: http://www.albertpenello.com/vette/v1program.html I haven't been out to my car yet, so I don't know what version of the software I have, but I'm hoping it works. -Mike __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
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#9. Buttonwillow weekend and Thanks to BMW of Bakersfield, EuroTech, and the guys at - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:37:49 -0800 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> Subject: Buttonwillow weekend and Thanks to BMW of Bakersfield, EuroTech, and the guys at I would like to take a minute to tell about my Buttonwillow weekend and thank everyone that helped out. Last week I had my M3 in Dinan's shop in Mountain View to do the tech inspection for the track, replace the high pressure lines on the power steering, the spark plugs, the fuel filter, diff and trany oil and the valve cover gasket. I had intended to do much of this myself but things got crazy at work and the whole wheel lock saga took allot of time. I picked it up on Thursday and thought I was ready for the weekend. Friday afternoon while packing for the track I noticed that my KMAC camber plates did not appear to be in the correct alignment (too little caster and negative camber). I then realized that they probably had to remove the strut tower brace and to change the valve cover gasket and the plates must have fell out of alignment when they were doing so. I could not get a hold of the Mountain View shop but luckily I could get ahold of the shop in Morgan Hill which is on the way down to Buttonwillow anyway. I made it through Friday afternoon traffic to Morgan Hill several minutes before 5pm. A team of guys put my camber and caster into alignment in no time. Meanwhile, my friends milled around the shop looking at all the cool race cars and customer cars. The new shop is definitely pretty cool. With the alignment fixed we set off for Buttonwillow. Saturday morning I'm running on the track when the check engine light goes on. In the pits I read the fault code and its 1221 (oxygen sensor). The car also appeared to be running rich since the tailpipes and rear end were very sooty. After talking it over with a few people we decide that it should be safe running rich until I can get it back to the shop next week. With my eye on the temperature gauge and ears listening for any sign of pinging should it swing the other way I go out for the next session. Halfway though the session the temperature gauge is slightly higher than normal on the front straight . By the back straight its on 3/4 and I smell coolant. I pull off line, inside the track and wait for a tow back to the pits in between sessions. With the system cooler its apparent that the neck on the radiator is broken. Typical. I guess I should have been driving around with a spare radiator in the trunk. So its Saturday afternoon and I need a radiator to get home much less back on the track. The Bakersfield BMW parts department is closed. I try calling my girlfriend and getting her to get me a radiator in the Bay Area and drive it down. She laughs. I call around to dealers in LA but the parts departments are either closed or they will not take credit card orders over the phone for pick up later. Its not looking good. I give BMW of Bakersfield a call back to see if their is anything they can do or at least get it towed there to be fixed Monday morning. I get through to the sales manager Lance Hilderbrand. He was great. He called the parts manager at home, who came me down to the dealer to pull the parts and sell them over the phone. They even gave me a great deal; factory radiator and coolant for just over $250. When I went to pick it up they offered to let me use the shop and even asked if I needed a loaner car! I was stunned. I have never received service like this at a BMW dealer. With much gratitude I took Lance's card and offered to pass along his contact information (661) 396-4040. If you need parts near Buttonwillow or are looking to buy a BMW give him call. My next thanks go out to Kenney at EuroTech in Mission Viejo. He was there helping people all weekend at the track. I have never replaced a radiator in a an E36 so I asked his advice. Instead of advising he just said no problem, I'll do it for you. 45 minutes later he had replaced the radiator and bled the system in time for my first run session. He refused to take any money for the service. It worked great and I did not miss a session all Sunday. Many things went wrong last weekend but it all worked out in the end. Thanks, Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '85 M635CSi '95 M3 _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Valentine One Programming - from Reid Conti
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Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:02:35 -0800 (PST) From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Valentine One Programming I'm sure it will work. This works on basically all V1's. I've been running sans x-band "protection" for a couple of years. I first found it on a Porsche site back in the day; Valentine didn't talk about it. However, now they even have this same information on their own website! - reid > Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 15:35:44 -0800 (PST) > From: Mike Cornwell <mcornwell@yahoo.com> > Subject: Valentine One Programming > > I haven't had a chance to read the list for a few months, so perhaps this has > been posted before. > > Ever since I bought my Valentine One RADAR detector, the only thing that I > thought I would change on it would be the ability to disable X-Band alerts, > since I don't think any departments use those ancient guns anymore, but most > supermarkets still do! > > Anyways, I was looking for something on the web, and stumbled onto a C5 site, > which had the following link, which describes how to do this, and alot more > with your Valentine: > > http://www.albertpenello.com/vette/v1program.html > > I haven't been out to my car yet, so I don't know what version of the software > I have, but I'm hoping it works. > > -Mike > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >