E36M3 #2153

Tuesday, April 02, 2002 17:11:37

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#1. tires... - from kit wetzler
#2. aquamist dyno - from kit wetzler
#3. RE: [E36M3] Installing 5- or 6- point harnesses - from Steve Walsh
#4. Bay Area Body Shops - from david tow
#5. WTB: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - from Chester Wong
#6. Tire forsale - from Mark Radelow
#7. wheels - from Gary A. Preece
#8. Re: [E36M3] wheels - from peter@guagenti.com
#9. Re: [E36M3] wheels - from NickG
#10. Re: [E36M3] wheels - from Chris Papademetrious

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#1. tires... - from kit wetzler
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:17:12 -0600 From: kit wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: tires... > Jay ... I do not feel the S-03s are nearly as good all-around as the > originial Pilot Sports ... they definitely do not track to centre as > naturally, and I do not like their rain-handling characteristics ... > plus, I got 40,000 mi out of my rears and still had some meat left on > the fronts of my PSs just by looking after inflation religiously > (spec-2lbs in the rear and spec+2lbs in front) ... Sheesh... if 40K miles and good "track to centre" capabilities are what you want, I hear that the RoadHugger Deluxe with a 600 treadwear rating is good... ;) the S-03s have marvelous characteristics. Great turn in, really good grip, progressive break away, but still quiet with decent ride quality. They last a decent amount of time, sans track events. :) I can't wait to get mine... (have driven Alan Taur's car quite a bit, it sold me on the s-03s.) Finally got the spare back into my car... hm. Less wheelspin problems. Guess 50 lbs off the rear end really does help. ;) -kit supercharged M3

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#2. aquamist dyno - from kit wetzler
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 10:26:41 -0600 From: kit wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: aquamist dyno I dyno'd the car with the aquamist setup. I mounted the pump where AA mounts it, but used a standard 1S kit from Aquamist. First off, the position that AA has you mount the pump in is terrible. The pump unprimes itself and you get a few seconds of dry pump running. This is really bad for the pump, as well as not so good for performance. It is best to mount the pump well below the lowest level of the reservoir. I will move mine very soon. The thin high pressure line can be safely run quite long, but it's definitely nice to have a 1 bar in-line check valve in the line. Gotta order one of those, too. Prevents the motor from siphoning off the water in the high pressure line. these two changes ensures that you get water the instant the boost switch is tripped. You guys with the tank in the trunk should be especially worried about it. I tried it with straight water. Dyno results show no extra power (to be expected) but a lessened heat soaking effect. 3rd dyno run, no cooldown time showed only about 3 hp loss from the start. I'm happy. (well, I was definitely put to shame by the 2.0l SE-R that put down 366 hp at the front wheels, with a GT3037 turbo, and STOCK INTERNALS!) Also, drove home over the Grapevine, it was 93 degrees out, and even at 4000 feet the car felt slow, but MUCH better with the water injection turned on. -kit

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Installing 5- or 6- point harnesses - from Steve Walsh
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 11:15:54 -0600 From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Installing 5- or 6- point harnesses DANGER, DANGER, Will Robinson !! The rear deck is certainly NOT strong enough to mount the shoulder harness straps to. Come on, think about it. It vibrates from the speakers !! Secondly, "..The crotch strap can usually be wrapped around any lateral metal bar in the seat frame.." statement is very risky also. I wouldn't put my 'boys' at risk like that. Again the seat frame was never designed to take such stress, and would probably fail under those conditions. 5 and 6 point harnesses are serious safety devices, designed to *save your life*. Mount them correctly (it will require drilling new holes to mount the eye-bolts in the correct locations), or get the Schroth snap-in/snap-out harness. What's your life, or the lives of others worth ? At 10:00 AM 4/2/02 -0600, you wrote: >Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2002 20:48:53 -0600 >From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Installing 5- or 6-point harnesses > >on 4/1/02 6:20 PM, Carguymb@aol.com at Carguymb@aol.com wrote: > > > I've been looking at the Brey-Krause harness bar as an effective way > > to mount the shoulder straps, > >If you have fold-down rear seats, drill a hole and mount a bolt under >the >rear deck. I have seen this on a few cars. Simpson makes a shoulder >harness >that runs that far back. > > > Any pointers on the inner lap belts and the crotch strap? > >The crotch strap can usually be wrapped around any lateral metal bar in >the >seat frame. Pop the seat out and start looking. > > > I'm not sure what the options are for the inner belt are, > >Jim Ochi, a fellow lister, gave me a good idea when I was doing mine: > >Metolius 3/8" bolt hanger >(http://www.rei.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=1035&prme n >br=8 >000&cgrfnbr=4500708) > >You mount these at the seat mounting bolts and you can attach the >harness >directly to them. It's very easy if you have the click-on style mounts >for >the lap belts. Otherwise, you'll have to figure something else out >(folding >the strap and looping it through might work) > >This solution may work in the front bolts for a 6-point. > > > Does anybody have experience doing this to offer constructive input on > > how to cleanly install a safe harness setup? > >The above directions are great for installing a harness that will hold >you >in during hard cornering, braking, etc., but to have a totally >crash-safe >car you may need to mount the harness very differently. The argument can >be >made however, that using a harness without a rollbar _increases_ your >chance >of injury in an accident, so you have to think about that too. > >Frankly, if I were you, I'd sell my harness on eBay and buy a Schroth 4 >point harness that clicks into the factory mounts. It's the easiest and >safest way to go. > >-peterg >

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#4. Bay Area Body Shops - from david tow
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:44:04 -0600 From: david tow <david_tow@hotmail.com> Subject: Bay Area Body Shops Hi, all, Beside B-Line in San Jose, are there any high-quality body shops you could recommend in the south bay? My wife's Mercedes 300E is in need of some body work. Thank you in advance! David _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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#5. WTB: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 13:07:54 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: WTB: Eibach Pro-Kit Springs I don't know if the text will go through, but if you have a set for sale, let me know. Thanks, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://http://taxes.yahoo.com/

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#6. Tire forsale - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:42:16 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Tire forsale I have the following tires forsale: 1. 2x Pirelli P7000 Supersports 225/45-17 2. 2x Bridgestone RE730 245/40-17 All four are almost brand new. Here is the caveat. The Pirellis have some cupping on them that, for me personally, is just too annoying. They would make a good set of track tires or long distance commute tires (the cupping only really has an effect at low speed). I am looking to get $250 for the set. If I don't I am just going to deal with them. Thanks everyone. Mark Radelow _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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#7. wheels - from Gary A. Preece
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:02:06 -0500 From: "Gary A. Preece" <gapreece@entreky.net> Subject: wheels Guys and Gals, Anyone have any experience with the Mille Maglia MM 11-2 wheels? Are they soft? They sure are cheap, so it makes me wonder. I hate cleaning my 10-spokes. What size tire should I put on a 17x8 rim? TIA Gary Preece Lou., KY PS - I know someone will tell me to put on a 17" tire,...but 235 or 245?

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#8. Re: [E36M3] wheels - from peter@guagenti.com
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 14:49:57 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] wheels > Anyone have any experience with the Mille Maglia MM 11-2 wheels? Are they > soft? They sure are cheap, so it makes me wonder. I hate cleaning my > 10-spokes. What size tire should I put on a 17x8 rim? TIA I ran these in 17x9 all the way around for autocross (w/15mm spacers in front). I loved them. They're pretty light, and I didn't have any issues with bending -- and that included driving to and from events on them. I would buy them in 17x8 fr / 17x9 rr, with 245/40-17's all the way around. -peterg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. http://www.hispeed.com

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#9. Re: [E36M3] wheels - from NickG
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Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 17:56:42 -0500 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] wheels I'd use either a 235/40 or a 245/40 tire on it, depending on the year of the car (235 is stock for a '95, 245 is stock for '96+). Personally, I'm running 245/40 on a 17x8" on my '95. Nick > Anyone have any experience with the Mille Maglia MM 11-2 wheels? Are they > soft? They sure are cheap, so it makes me wonder. I hate cleaning my > 10-spokes. What size tire should I put on a 17x8 rim? TIA > > Gary Preece > Lou., KY > > PS - I know someone will tell me to put on a 17" tire,...but 235 or 245?

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#10. Re: [E36M3] wheels - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 17:55:32 -0500 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispitude@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] wheels At 04:30 PM 4/2/2002 -0600, Gary A. Preece wrote: >Guys and Gals, > >Anyone have any experience with the Mille Maglia MM 11-2 wheels? Are they >soft? They sure are cheap, so it makes me wonder. I hate cleaning my >10-spokes. What size tire should I put on a 17x8 rim? TIA > >Gary Preece >Lou., KY Lou, I've been pondering new wheels too. I like the styling of the Miglia MM 11-2s as well, but they seem to be pretty heavy (~22lbs). I came across the following that has me thinking about the BBS RK's: http://www.iserv.net/~rcolburn/BBSRK.html Is there a concensus on a light, strong wheel that blends in with the M3's styling? Cost is an object, but I wouldn't mind paying a little more for a wheel that reduces unsprung weight/rotational inertia, as well as resists potholes. What's "everybody" buying for the street? >PS - I know someone will tell me to put on a 17" tire,...but 235 or 245? I think you can run 245's front and back on a 17x8 wheel, but I'll let someone who's doing it comment for sure. I can say that I'm running 235's on my 17x8's now, and the sidewall noticeably bows inward. It sure looks like the wheel wants some more tire width. There was a thread a couple months ago on 235 vs. 245 that basically came to the conclusion of - you can't tell the difference on the street. Get what's cheapest, or whatever your favorite tire is available in. - Chris

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