E36M3 #2161

Wednesday, April 03, 2002 20:05:18

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Rattling sound underneath - from Robert Chay
#2. Re: '96 M3 trailing arm toe bushing part number - from Roger Baker
#3. FS: Contours - from Tim Gergen
#4. Re: [E36M3] Indoor Go Karts - from Robert Chay
#5. Re: [E36M3] Indoor Go Karts - from peter@guagenti.com
#6. Sway Bars for M3 - from PDumond21@aol.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] re: big brake kits - from Michael
#8. Re: big brake kits - from Matt Malfa
#9. Re: V1 interference - from D Snyder
#10. Brake Cooling - from Raginglennie@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Rattling sound underneath - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:35:48 -0500 From: Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rattling sound underneath You might also want to check the brake pad retaining clips. I've heard they tend to break off every once in a while. -Bobby

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#2. Re: '96 M3 trailing arm toe bushing part number - from Roger Baker
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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 14:41:44 -0800 From: Roger Baker <rbaker@velodyne.com> Subject: Re: '96 M3 trailing arm toe bushing part number '96 up trailing arm bushing: 33 32 2 228 153 '95 trailing arm bushing: 33 32 1 097 009 About $18 ea @ suggested retail. -- Roger Baker Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > My local dealer can't seem to find the part number for the '96 M3 trailing > arm toe bushing. He says they only show that as part of the whole trailing > arm. Does anyone have that part number handy? > > I got my Ground Control toe bushing arrestors (name?) last night, so I want > to get these in soon. > > Also, Brett Anderson and an E36 M3 list person rent the toe bushing > removal/installation tool. Will the E36 M3 list person who does this send > me private e-mail. > > Thanks, > -- > Rex Tener > rex_tener@yahoo.com

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#3. FS: Contours - from Tim Gergen
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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 22:49:05 +0000 From: "Tim Gergen" <tgergen@hotmail.com> Subject: FS: Contours 4 original factory contours (staggared) WITH Kumho ECSTA Supra 712's mounted. Wheels are in good condition. One has minor curb rash, one has two minor scratches. Photos will be posted tomorrow. Tires are factory sizes (245/40/17 rear and 235/45/17 front). Rear tires have AT LEAST 50% tread remaining, fronts have at least 75% tread--my estimates.) See the pictures, when posted, for a closer look. I am asking $1200 + shipping for these wheels and tires...and no, I will not seperate them. Please email me at tgergen@yahoo.com if questions. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Indoor Go Karts - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2002 17:55:03 -0500 From: Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Indoor Go Karts I went there with the CT chapter CCA a few months back. Nice, friendly bunch. The track was not that great though. The kart seats were 2-6" too wide (I'm 6', 190lbs) so Chester and Wayne's hands hurting was probably due to them having to hold on to the steering wheel rather than have the seats hold them. That and the track being fairly small was my biggest gripe about the place. When I was in CA, I used to go to Dromo1 (in Anaheim) and they usually have a 22-25 sec track. The karts are also much better than the ones in the CT track. Each kart had a timing display on the steering wheel so you can change your line and see if it helps or hurts your times. I stopped by F1 Boston but didn't get to drive there but that looks like a real indoor track. Elevation changes and all. I'm planning on going up there in the next few months and will make time to drive that track. -Bobby ps. The tracks mentioned above all have websites: KartTrak CT www.karttrak.com Dromo1 CA www.dromo1.com F1 Boston MA www.f1-boston.com ----- Original Message ----- > > BTW, this kart track was lots of fun. Too bad I didn't mention our going out > to the track last Friday to the list. The Connecticut Valley Chapter had a > recent event at the track so we decided to check it out. Tons of fun. > > Laptimes were in the 12 sec range. ...very short/small track. At the end of > each session, our hands would be killing us! I'd highly recommend visiting a > kart track to get a feel for handling dynamics. It's also fun to race > competitively and not worry about damaging your car...though it was amusing to > see Wayne T-bone me to pass me...LOL! > > Chester >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Indoor Go Karts - from peter@guagenti.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 15:18:12 US/Pacific From: peter@guagenti.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Indoor Go Karts > The track was not that great though. The kart seats were 2-6" too wide (I'm > 6', 190lbs) so Chester and Wayne's hands hurting was probably due to them > having to hold on to the steering wheel rather than have the seats hold > them. I just did the Russell Karting school at Sears Point -- a gift from my wife for Valentine's day ;-) I had the same problem with my hands hurting and had an instructor show me the correct hand technique. I was holding the thing at 9-and-3 with a death grip and couldn't get comfortable. He had me make my forearms parallel to each other, wrists in a typing position, and rest my palms on the wheel. He then had me steer, with added pressure at the palms, not on the grip. Didn't have a hand problem anymore that day. > That and the track being fairly small was my biggest gripe about the > place. Having done SpeedRing a couple of times and now the Russell track, I have to say that I love the outdoors, long tracks. The karts they had at Russell were way more powerful and balanced than anything else I drove, and the track was like a roadracing course. Overall it was a blast. -p ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using HiSpeed Technologies Webmail. http://www.hispeed.com

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#6. Sway Bars for M3 - from PDumond21@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 18:45:58 EST From: PDumond21@aol.com Subject: Sway Bars for M3 I am in the market for a new set of sway bars for my '97 M3. I was wondering which set is best for my car. I am looking at the Eibach and RD Sports. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated. Thanks. Paul

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#7. Re: [E36M3] re:  big brake kits - from Michael
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:51:25 -0500 From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: big brake kits Funny, how it only takes 1 ass to put the whole discussion in the toilet! Personal attacks are just that, personal, make them by private email. Alot of us were around years ago too and have good memory of who said, she said, somebody bitchslapped somebody kind of crap. If you are happy with your product from a certain company, then by all means tell the world about your happiness, but making comments about someone elses opinions that need to be stated on a couch, save them for your own couch. Not everybody is going to have great service nor great experience from a product you love. That is why things such as lemon laws, new car warrantys etc exist. My opinion on brake kits, performance improvement that is measured in a few feet from 100 to 0mph, is that worth 2 + grand? notta!. They do improve life of pads/rotors/wheel bearings etc but then again, replacements cost probably take away that savings. Another data point, some of the fastest M3s in HP class still use stock brakes. How bout a 95 M3 HP that can do 1:39s at Road Atlanta, stock brakes baby. That time is good for a euro engined B mod car! Granted, if you drive a 350hp M3, then you might be at the limits of the stock brakes. But if you dont, the stock brakes are capable or atleast in the right hands&feet they are. Mike 95 M3 LTW, HS 13 stock calipers, euro rotors(2yrs old, 4 races, 5 school weekends) Hawk Blues, Super Blue fluid. Never have experienced fade in 30+ track weekends, 160,000 combined miles on 2 95 M3's. But then again maybe I drive slow, haha. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nabli@earthlink.net> > Rather than bashing each other let's keep it informative - if at all > possible at this stage.

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#8. Re:  big brake kits - from Matt Malfa
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 19:57:09 -0500 From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com> Subject: Re: big brake kits Hi Jim, >> That didn'd work out too well for the UUC partnership, did it? I'm sorry, I was unaware that you had spoken with Rob Levinson about this, because I'm certain you didn't speak with me about it. Assuming you discussed the state of the "UUC partnership" with Mr. Liaw (which would surprise me, but anything is possible) and perhaps you also heard second-hand reports from other parties not directly involved, then I don't see how you could know even half the story, much less be in a position to make snide remarks about it publicly. But that's just my opinion. Also, I really don't feel it is appropriate to tell people to "keep it informative" in the same email where you make a backhanded comment like that, but, again, that's just my opinion. Something to think about gang: As much as I would like to believe that we're all in it for the cars first and foremost, and there's no reason to let tempers flare, the truth is that there are real people behind the cars and the products, and sometimes conflicts occur. I do not mean to target any individuals in particular, but many of you realize that there is always more to a story than you can see on a website or through a mailing list. Some things are inevitably matters of public record, and people should be made aware of them. Other matters, however, have no bearing on the focus of this group. That said, I think everyone should go for a drive in their M3 to cool off <g>, and keep an open and clear mind about what to post here and what to keep to yourself. Suzy's list, Suzy's rules, but that doesn't mean we can't all keep ourselves in check before we click the "send" button. If anyone would like more information about UUC brakes (which do use PBR calipers, a fact we are proud of), UUC short shifters (which are not at all like the modified factory shifter kits asked about here recently), or would like to chat about other topics that have come up, please contact me privately. best regards all, - -Matt Malfa UUC Motorwerks * http://www.uucmotorwerks.com * 732.398.0001 ----- Original Message ----- From: <nabli@earthlink.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: big brake kits > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 16:31:22 -0500 > From: <nabli@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: big brake kits > > This thread is quite amusing and somewhat informative but I don't think the > owner of "ROGUE" needs a mouthpiece. > > That didn'd work out too well for the UUC partnership, did it? > > Rather than bashing each other let's keep it informative - if at all > possible at this stage. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jake Tiggersman" <jtigole@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: big brake kits > > > > Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:46:51 -0800 (PST) > > From: Jake Tiggersman <jtigole@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] re: big brake kits > > > > Chester, > > > > Anyone who has been on this list or any of the > > internet bulletin board for the past 2 years has > > probably seen the "flip" performed by the amazing > > Chester Wong. > > > > Originally, you are in the UUC camp talking about how > > great their products are and how AA and others are > > copy cats and make weak products in comparison. > > Totally up their ass... > > > > Then, overnight, you are bashing Ben, UUC and now > > Rogue. Not hard to figure out, Chester, that you have > > issues with Ben. What happened, Ben didn't give you a > > big enough discount on UUC parts? > > > > The time spent here bashing Ben might be better served > > on a therapist's couch. > > > > > Did Rogue just issue an IPO? Even shareholders don't defend their companies > that much. > > Cheers, > Jim E. - dying to move on to another topic because my finger is killing me > from hitting the f'n delete button so hard! > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#9. Re: V1 interference - from D Snyder
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 17:04:42 -0800 From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: V1 interference > From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> snip > my V1 kept > reading 1 or 2 "bogies" coming from the rear on X-band at a low > strength. There was NO WAY there could have been either a police car or > anything else that would set off the detector because I was really in > the middle of nowhere. snip > I called Valentine and explained my problem and the first thing the > technician asked was if I have a cell phone. snip > Who'd have thunk it? Does anyone else have this > problem? I've run into the same thing with my Samsung 3500 phone (Sprint PCS). Baffled me for the longest time. It would appear that it only sets the V1 off when trying to acquire a new tower (must broadcast at a higher power), since it is very brief (two beeps) and only intermittently. Dan

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#10. Brake Cooling - from Raginglennie@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 20:56:10 EST From: Raginglennie@aol.com Subject: Brake Cooling I'm thinking about adding some brake ducting to my recently purchased '95 M3, as I plan on sticking with the stock brakes. I'm an "intermediate" group student in driving schools, but I'm starting to carry decent speeds into "brake intensive" corners (such as the aforementioned turn 5 at Road America). My brake fluid will be fresh, my pads will be Performance Friction & my rotors will be floating, but I'd like to make sure all of that stays as cool as possible. Does any one have any good/bad experience with the HMS Motorsports Cool-It Brake Cooling Kit? Looks like their backing plates are easier to install (no wheel bearing removal like the Turner Motorsports backing plates), but I don't know of any one who has used it. Any feedback on other brake cooling kits would also be appreciated. 4-1/2 weeks & counting 'til Road America. I hope this #%$^&$@ snow melts. Thanks, Mike

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