E36M3 #2188

Wednesday, April 10, 2002 15:16:01

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4 Life Span? - from twisty M3
#2. Re: This month's Roundel - from KLchmn@aol.com
#3. Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4 Life Span? - from twisty M3
#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: tire help - from D Snyder
#5. This month's Roundel - from Robert S. Hatrak II
#6. Re: TC Kline/BimmerHaus Roll Bars - from Riley, Scott
#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Re: Tire Help - from Jim Bassett
#8. Re: [E36M3] H&R springs question - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#9. I feel the same way about my bike too! - from Mount, Mike
#10. Re: [E36M3] Inlets that replace Fog Lights? - from Steven Tom
#11. Re: Cupholders - from Neil Maller

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4 Life Span? - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:46:30 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4 Life Span? >From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > >Umm, how long have you been on this list, Jonathan? I suspect long enough >to know that "tracking an M3 = sucking money out of your wallet" <BFG> > I know, I know... I just didn't expect things to suddenly start adding up so quickly. I just figured one day I'd end up living in a box, and not realize why. I didn't think I'd have to start box shopping NOW. ;) > >Besides, someone you know may be his instructor (remember Rule #1: Don't >scare your instructor <g>). > Hmm... This could be fun! hehehe! Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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#2. Re: This month's Roundel - from KLchmn@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 15:19:03 -0400 From: KLchmn@aol.com Subject: Re: This month's Roundel >In case no one noticed, our fellow list member Kirk Lachman >can be seen on page 92 in his 95 M3 IS club racer. Way to >go Kirk! Don't forget to look at the photo credit to see how I did get pictured! <g> Sponsorship opportunities exist. Please email me directly! <vbg> Cheers, Kirk

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4 Life Span? - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:43:35 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Porterfield R4 Life Span? Thanks to everyone for all the advice. I ended up just ordering new sets all around while I was getting my brake fluid changed/flushed and my tech. inspection completed yesterday. Of course, seeing as my car has about 76K miles, we decided it would be good preventative medicine to go ahead and replace the radiator now, rather than waiting for it to go on it's own. While doing that, we also noticed that the water pump had a bit of play in it, so that was replaced, along with the thermostat, as well. Yesterday was NOT an inexpensive visit to the mechanic by any means. Oy! Thanks again for all the input. Jonathan L. (with a new dusty, loud and FUN set of R4 pads on the way... and MUCH less money in the bank) _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: tire help - from D Snyder
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:17:41 -0700 From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: tire help Oh well...my memories of my old M3s are like most fishing stories...they get better (bigger) as time passes. Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > Orginal 95 M3's had 7.5 rims all round. Not aware of ANY 8.0 wheels offered > for the E-36 M3. They were either 7.5 or 8.5. > > Mike > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> > > > > The original '95s had 8" widths on all four corners. This was changed, > > first with the LTW to 7.5/8.5 (which was a '95 model year), and then all > > '96s. > >

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#5. This month's Roundel - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 09:20:00 -0700 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <hatrak@ix.netcom.com> Subject: This month's Roundel In case no one noticed, our fellow list member Kirk Lachman can be seen on page 92 in his 95 M3 IS club racer. Way to go Kirk! Rob

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#6. Re: TC Kline/BimmerHaus Roll Bars - from Riley, Scott
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:08:16 -0500 From: "Riley, Scott" <sriley@cardinalcapital.com> Subject: Re: TC Kline/BimmerHaus Roll Bars In a message dated 4/10/02 9:00:21 AM, Bob Tunnell writes: "Our fabricator is the same person who makes all the Spec Racer chassis for SCCA Enterprises. I'd like to say our bars are 'better' than the old ones, but that wouldn't be fair to TC's Ohio fabricator, who was very, very good. I'll just say that the design is the same (for now we're still using TC's jigs) and the TIG welding (no more MIG) is impeccable. I'll let other users fill you in on the features, advantages, and benefits, but feel free to contact me directly if you have any other questions." I cannot comment on TC's or Bob's roll bars (I know you're asking yourself, "then why is this guy participating in the thread?"); however, I can comment on the fabricator that is now making the roll bars for Bob's race shop, BimmerHaus Performance. BimmerHaus recently built a turnkey ('95 M3 I-Stock) club racer for me. Included in the construction was a custom Chrome-Moly, TIG-welded roll cage designed, built and installed by BimmerHaus' fabricator. Virtually everyone that has seen my car immediately comments on the roll cage: how tight it is to the interior of the car, smooth lines of the bars and the amazingly clean TIG welding. Given Jim Leithauser's intimate knowledge of TC Kline's (former) roll bar operation along with their very talented fabricator, BimmerHaus will definitely be offering some quality roll bars and finally restore the reputation of TC Kline's roll bar operation. Scott Riley Dallas, Texas

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Re: Tire Help - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 12:06:46 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Re: Tire Help At 08:05 AM 4/10/02, George R Carr Jr wrote: >Sorry, no current data (other than the local stealer). > >I got mine via phone/email almost 4 years ago via Stephen Wolff at South >Motors in Miami at a very good discount. Stephen was great to deal >with ... responsive, reliable, good to talk to. Today, I'd call South >and see what they do but I'd also pick up a Roundel and call everyone >with an 800. Yep, Stephen was my first choice back when I wanted the pair of 8.5's. But he had decided not to ship wheels, due to risk of damage in shipping. That's why I ended up at a local dealer. Not sure if other vendors have a similar policy, but couldn't hurt to check. Jim Bassett

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#8. Re: [E36M3] H&R springs question - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 13:56:54 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R springs question Rich Beebe <rich@beebecomm.com> wrote: > > I bought a set of H&R springs (used in great condition) a couple > of years ago and I'm just now getting around to installing them. > I noticed, when I checked them again, I have 29910 front springs > (which is the correct 'sport' number) and 29936 rear springs > (which is the rear spring for the H&R coilover setup. Rich, You've bought a set of TC Kline's TrackLine springs. This fact is not well advertised, but though TC lists TrackLine springs as 29910 (H&R Stage 2 == Sports), the rears are actually H&R Stage 4 springs. They are shorter and stiffer than 29910 rears, but H&R is not admitting to their exact rate. Unlike 29910 fronts that have the rate printed on the coils, 29336 rears only list the part #. > Now, the coilover setup says the rears have a drop of 1-1.75", > obviously based on the adjuster. The 29910 rear springs are listed > at a 1" drop (same as the 29936 w/o adjustment). Does anyone know > if these springs actually have different spring rates and has anyone > else run this combination by chance? Thanks. I've run this setup on my '95 M3 for a few weeks and had posted the drop results in the past (don't have them handy right now). Either way, the ride was very choppy, though wonderfully planted and controlled. I went to a preseason autoX and took FTD beating a Dinan Stage 3 suspended (and supercharged) car by a few thousands of a second. On track/autoX course I was ecstatic with the TrackLine kit. However, after driving like that for a few weeks, I took the H&Rs back out in favor of the stock springs and Koni SAs. Why you might ask? For one thing the ride on the Dallas TX streets was a bit more than my 28 year old bladder could take. Make that a ride at sub 80 mph speeds was choppy and rough. At sub 40mph speeds it was bordering on unbearable. At above 80mph or on track it was perfect. As my car a partial daily driver/weekend fun car it was spending too much time at sub 80mph speeds and the H&Rs weren't earning too many brownie points. Than came THE scrape. I pulled into a gas station to fill her up and scraped the shit out of my M3 floor on a gas station man hole cover. The first thought that crossed my mind was that I had left the oil pan on the asphalt. Luckily, my front Eibach sways are protruding 3/4" below the level of the oil pan and took the hit. As did the muffler in the back. The car had survived THE scrape, but the H&Rs came out that very same weekend. YMMV, alex f P.S.: With a set of TrackLine springs (29100 front and 29936 rear H&Rs) for sale!

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#9. I feel the same way about my bike too! - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:51:34 -0700 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: I feel the same way about my bike too! A pal of mine sent me this, it's pretty good! " In a world filled with clueless sheep buying SUVs, minivans, and bland automotive appliances, I figure I must be doing something right if my car disturbs their delicate sensibilities. It's like a bright yellow one-finger salute as I pass and they become tiny specs in my rear view mirror. :) " Mike

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Inlets that replace Fog Lights? - from Steven Tom
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 08:50:39 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inlets that replace Fog Lights? Stupid question, so where do the rocks go?? All of the rocks that used to break your foglights are now replaced with inlet ducts that lead the rocks to the brakes. Are the rocks in for a spin dry of their life or what? steve At 06:15 PM 4/9/2002 -0600, Geof McLaughlin wrote: >Date: Tue, 09 Apr 2002 20:06:05 -0400 >From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Inlets that replace Fog Lights? > >Try Brad Otoupalik (sp?) at Evosport. I know his father's E36 M3 >Lightweight HP Club Racer had brake ducts that fit the fog light opening >perfectly. > >I don't have his number handy, but go to http://www.evosport.com for >contact info. > >Geof

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#11. Re: Cupholders - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2002 10:41:37 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Cupholders on 4/10/02 10:15 AM, donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> wrote: > On Tuesday, April 9, 2002, at 06:35 PM, Neil Maller wrote: >> >> Cup holder? CUP HOLDER? >> Real drivers of Teutonic machines don't use cup holders!!! >> Neil >> 96 M3 - no cup holder: gave it away with the 92 325i I sold. > > So you had one to give away? Yes, I confess it (hangs head in shame), like yours my E36 did come with a cupholder. But I did take it out immediately. Surely that counts for something (sniff). Neil 96 M3

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