E36M3 #2203

Friday, April 12, 2002 18:28:03

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#1. RE: [E36M3] 95 M3 Alignment - from Jim Bassett
#2. RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from Mel Silva
#3. Fwd: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from donna seeley
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from Mark Radelow
#5. RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from Mark Radelow
#6. Re: [E36M3] Driving suits - from donna seeley
#7. Re: [E36M3] Driving suits - from Mark Radelow
#8. The Wheel Exchange - from Junaidi Irwan
#9. RE: Part #'s for E46 RSM's and Z3 plate - from Bob Vaughn
#10. RE: [E36M3] RE: 17x9 rims with 235s - from Mike Frank
#11. Driving Suits - from Jim Bassett

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#1. RE: [E36M3] 95 M3 Alignment - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:42:32 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 95 M3 Alignment At 02:07 PM 4/12/02, Chuck Hanson wrote: >Okay, I give. Will someone please explain to an E36 Newbie just what >"swapping the 96+ hats" means and whay does it give negative camber? Any >problems with doing it? On the front struts, the top portion that bolts up to the shock tower is commonly refered to the "hat". On 96+ M3s, you can swap them L<->R and gain about 1 - 1.5 degrees of additional neg camber. This can be a good compromise setting for street & track. (For reference, I had about 2.5 degrees neg camber with the swapped hats, 0.9 degrees with them back in stock configuration.) I had the hats swapped for about 3 years and it seemed to work well on the track. It was OK for the street, but I have 8.5" wheels all around, so that facilitated rotating & flipping the tires to lengthen their life. The main downside is increased wear on the inside edge of the front tires. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - retired form the track, returning to a more stock-ish configuration 1993 325is #44 KP - stock? what's that? :-)

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from Mel Silva
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:55:17 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits My Nomex suit says machine wash cold no bleach - DO NOT DRY CLEAN. -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:scott.mcclung@ubicom.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:38 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:27:13 -0700 From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits BTW - how do you clean a suit? Does dry cleaning damage the integrity of the suit? Scott -----Original Message----- From: D Snyder [mailto:m3ltw@msn.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:05:40 -0700 From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re:Driving suits > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > > The difference is the quality of the material (Proban vs. Nomex vs. Nomex > III) and construction. The more expensive suits will last longer, fit > better, be more comfortable and be cooler. I have a Sparco Sponsor suit. > In comparison the G-Force, Simpson, etc. suits are MUCH hotter and less > comfortable (IMHO). The way I see it is, it's your life. Why mess with it. > If the better suit offers 1-3 seconds more of time you won't burn that's > worth it. > > As a counterpoint, many racers on the Grand-Am Circuit wear the cheaper > suits... The big differences are layers, material, construction (liners, collar, etc), design, quilting/stitching (patterns, etc), fit, etc. I believe the 3 layer suits pretty much automatically pass most rule books (NHRA has its own levels-since fire is more common), while 2 layer has to be certified (or you wear underwear). Fit should be your first criteria (make sure you can sit with your arms outstretched). (safety is not a criteria, but a given). Make sure that your ankles/wrists are covered. I have a Sparco Sponsor (as well) and really like it. Not too hot, very comfortable (soft) and stretches/fits in the right areas. Also, it's important to keep your suit clean, as oils/dirt can reduce the effectiveness of the suit (passing more heat through the suit). Just remember, each SFI level (spec. 3-2A) equates to JUST A FEW SECONDS OF PROTECTION: Grade Time 3-2A/1 3 sec 3-2A/5 10 sec 3-2A/10 19 sec 3-2A/15 30 sec 3-2A/20 40 sec Dan ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#3. Fwd: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from donna seeley
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:14:26 -0700 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Fwd: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits My Sparco suit has some illegible symbols so I asked Roger Kraus. He said to wash it in Woolite & occasionally dryclean it. Then again, he's the guy who convinced me to try the KFP pads I hated so much... :) Donna --------- 88 M3, "Guido", #41 JP 95 330isA, super-commuter > > On Friday, April 12, 2002, at 02:57 PM, Mel Silva wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:55:17 -0500 >> From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> >> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits >> >> My Nomex suit says machine wash cold no bleach - DO NOT DRY CLEAN. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:27:13 -0700 >> From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> >> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits >> >> BTW - how do you clean a suit? Does dry cleaning >> damage the integrity of the suit? >> >> Scott >

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:22:44 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits If the suit is Nomex, then dry cleaning does not hurt it (regular washing will). If the suit is Proban (which is cotton treated with chemicals), it loses more of its effectivness with each wash. Mark From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Reply-To: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:37:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:27:13 -0700 From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits BTW - how do you clean a suit? Does dry cleaning damage the integrity of the suit? Scott -----Original Message----- From: D Snyder [mailto:m3ltw@msn.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:05:40 -0700 From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re:Driving suits > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > > The difference is the quality of the material (Proban vs. Nomex vs. Nomex > III) and construction. The more expensive suits will last longer, fit > better, be more comfortable and be cooler. I have a Sparco Sponsor suit. > In comparison the G-Force, Simpson, etc. suits are MUCH hotter and less > comfortable (IMHO). The way I see it is, it's your life. Why mess with it. > If the better suit offers 1-3 seconds more of time you won't burn that's > worth it. > > As a counterpoint, many racers on the Grand-Am Circuit wear the cheaper > suits... The big differences are layers, material, construction (liners, collar, etc), design, quilting/stitching (patterns, etc), fit, etc. I believe the 3 layer suits pretty much automatically pass most rule books (NHRA has its own levels-since fire is more common), while 2 layer has to be certified (or you wear underwear). Fit should be your first criteria (make sure you can sit with your arms outstretched). (safety is not a criteria, but a given). Make sure that your ankles/wrists are covered. I have a Sparco Sponsor (as well) and really like it. Not too hot, very comfortable (soft) and stretches/fits in the right areas. Also, it's important to keep your suit clean, as oils/dirt can reduce the effectiveness of the suit (passing more heat through the suit). Just remember, each SFI level (spec. 3-2A) equates to JUST A FEW SECONDS OF PROTECTION: Grade Time 3-2A/1 3 sec 3-2A/5 10 sec 3-2A/10 19 sec 3-2A/15 30 sec 3-2A/20 40 sec Dan ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:23:13 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Yeah...doh other way around. :) Mark From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Reply-To: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:57:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:55:17 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits My Nomex suit says machine wash cold no bleach - DO NOT DRY CLEAN. -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:scott.mcclung@ubicom.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 4:38 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:27:13 -0700 From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits BTW - how do you clean a suit? Does dry cleaning damage the integrity of the suit? Scott -----Original Message----- From: D Snyder [mailto:m3ltw@msn.com] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 2:18 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re:Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 14:05:40 -0700 From: "D Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re:Driving suits > From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> > > The difference is the quality of the material (Proban vs. Nomex vs. Nomex > III) and construction. The more expensive suits will last longer, fit > better, be more comfortable and be cooler. I have a Sparco Sponsor suit. > In comparison the G-Force, Simpson, etc. suits are MUCH hotter and less > comfortable (IMHO). The way I see it is, it's your life. Why mess with it. > If the better suit offers 1-3 seconds more of time you won't burn that's > worth it. > > As a counterpoint, many racers on the Grand-Am Circuit wear the cheaper > suits... The big differences are layers, material, construction (liners, collar, etc), design, quilting/stitching (patterns, etc), fit, etc. I believe the 3 layer suits pretty much automatically pass most rule books (NHRA has its own levels-since fire is more common), while 2 layer has to be certified (or you wear underwear). Fit should be your first criteria (make sure you can sit with your arms outstretched). (safety is not a criteria, but a given). Make sure that your ankles/wrists are covered. I have a Sparco Sponsor (as well) and really like it. Not too hot, very comfortable (soft) and stretches/fits in the right areas. Also, it's important to keep your suit clean, as oils/dirt can reduce the effectiveness of the suit (passing more heat through the suit). Just remember, each SFI level (spec. 3-2A) equates to JUST A FEW SECONDS OF PROTECTION: Grade Time 3-2A/1 3 sec 3-2A/5 10 sec 3-2A/10 19 sec 3-2A/15 30 sec 3-2A/20 40 sec Dan ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Driving suits - from donna seeley
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:30:21 -0700 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driving suits Jeff, I hate to be the one to break it to you... You've fallen! > Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:14:22 -0700 > From: Jeff Stowe <jrstowe@pacbell.net> > Subject: Driving suits > <> > Jeff > "help me I'm slipping!"

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Driving suits - from Mark Radelow
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 22:48:10 +0000 From: "Mark Radelow" <radelow@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driving suits and you can't get up! From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Reply-To: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driving suits Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 17:37:47 -0500 Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:30:21 -0700 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Driving suits Jeff, I hate to be the one to break it to you... You've fallen! >Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 10:14:22 -0700 >From: Jeff Stowe <jrstowe@pacbell.net> >Subject: Driving suits ><> >Jeff >"help me I'm slipping!" ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.

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#8. The Wheel Exchange - from Junaidi Irwan
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:48:37 -0400 From: Junaidi Irwan <junaidi.irwan@usa.net> Subject: The Wheel Exchange Just wondering if anyone ever used their service to repair wheels. I greatly appreciate any feedback on this. I also wonder if anyone ever used other wheel repair center like Wheel Collision Center, Transwheel, etc? Good/bad experience? The reason I prefer The Wheel Exchange is because it is the closest to Boston, MA, so shipping is definitely cheaper. Thanks beforehand! Jay

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#9. RE: Part #'s for E46 RSM's and Z3 plate - from Bob Vaughn
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 15:57:09 -0700 From: Bob Vaughn <Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net> Subject: RE: Part #'s for E46 RSM's and Z3 plate What exactly does the E46 RSM do for you that the E36 RSM didn't do? And in the list of parts below... if I'm not interested in the Z3 reinforcement plate, is that the only part I don't need, or do some of those parts listed go with the plate? -- thx, Bob, '95 M3 > 33-52-6-754-096 E46M3 RSM > 33-52-1-128-734 Gasket > 31-33-1-092-887 Self locking hex nut (2) > 33-52-1-137-360 Self locking hex nut (1) > 51-71-8-413-359 Z3 reinforcement plate >

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#10. RE: [E36M3] RE: 17x9 rims with 235s - from Mike Frank
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 18:17:33 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: 17x9 rims with 235s I'm with you peter. Like you I've had many sets of tires. I asked for the measurements of the Kumhos when I ordered them but the sales guy didn't have them. I didn't really care much as I didn't have another option I liked. I've run the 225/45 & 245/40 Hoosiers, and the 225/45 & 245/40 Kumhos (along with many others). From memory, I'd say the 225/45 Hoosiers are wider than the Kumhos (new 235s or old 225s). The 235 Kumho is most likely a true 235. It looks about the same as other 235 street tires, like a Pilot SX MXX3. We'll see how they feel on the track next weekend. I just wouldn't mind having a little more rubber. Hopefully Kumho fires up that 255/40 mold soon. Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: peter@guagenti.com [mailto:peter@guagenti.com] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:26 AM > To: Mike Frank; E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: 17x9 rims with 235s > > > > I just mounted a set of these the other day on some 17x8 > RKs. I had > > hoped that the 235/40s would be wider than the 225/45 > Kumhos used in > > the past. > > What you're seeing is the difference in how people measure > their tire. I've > learned to read the section width and other width numbers > first, "size" > second. > snip

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#11. Driving Suits - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2002 16:19:46 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Driving Suits FYI, here's a brief article & info on drivers suits: http://www.northstarmotorsports.com/techtips.htm?OrderID=599098468730715513229 Jim Bassett

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