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#1. Re: [E36M3] how many shades of alpinweiss are there? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:39:54 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] how many shades of alpinweiss are there? At 09:45 AM 5/1/02, Jesse Caldwell talked about: >i'm new to this bodywork stuff, so any opinions about this paint >matching business would be most appreciated. Take a look on the driver's side front shock tower. There should be a sticker with the paint name and code on it. The paint code is the important bit of info, it should be in the lower-left corner of the sticker. I just repainted portions of the race car's fenders. The car happens to be Alpine White, and IIRC, the code was 280/1. When I purchased the paint from a local auto paint supply shop, they immediately asked for the paint code. If you have that, there shouldn't be any problem (other than having new paint & old paint on the car - even with the proper code they may not match exactly). Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP - now with unrusty, newly painted rear fenders, that don't exactly match the rest of the car, oh well :-)
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#2. RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:02:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning The problem is the switch is non-intelligent. It just triggers when pressure drops below a certain value. Now, ~20 psi might be fine at idle and even if it dropped to 10 psi (there's an old saying about how many psi you need for a given rpm), you might still not damage the engine. What happens when you're running at anything other than idle....say 6k rpms..and you lose pressure (where it would normally be at ~60psi) to 10 psi? Damage is inevitable, no? Chester --- Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > 4 Bars seems excessive. > > My gauge rarely runs above 60 and closer to 30 when hot at idle. > > Are you saying the engine needs higher pressure than it puts out? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com
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#3. 'cup' tires - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:13:13 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: 'cup' tires It was written - "They might be talking about Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires. < http://www.tirerack.com/tires/michelin/mi_pilot_sport_cup.jsp >" "They are Michelins "quasi-race" tire. < snip > Plus they are STUPID expensive." Plus they are only listing three sizes in 17 inch (ANAICT) and at that there would be some stagger!!!! 205/50YR17 225/45YR17 255/40YR17 Kim L Burgess
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#4. RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:14:34 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning Just checked the Bentley's manual. Had me curious. The 4 bars (59 psi) is the regulated maximum pressure at high rpm not the minimum required. I feel much better now. After an idiot light failure costing me at least the top end of an E30 engine, the idea of an added higher pressure switch is good as a suplement to the gauge Do you recall the old saying? Carey > -----Original Message----- > From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:03 PM > To: Carey Probst; E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning > > > The problem is the switch is non-intelligent. It just triggers > when pressure > drops below a certain value. Now, ~20 psi might be fine at idle > and even if it > dropped to 10 psi (there's an old saying about how many psi you need for a > given rpm), you might still not damage the engine. What happens > when you're > running at anything other than idle....say 6k rpms..and you lose pressure > (where it would normally be at ~60psi) to 10 psi? Damage is > inevitable, no? > > Chester > > --- Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > 4 Bars seems excessive. > > > > My gauge rarely runs above 60 and closer to 30 when hot at idle. > > > > Are you saying the engine needs higher pressure than it puts out? > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness > http://health.yahoo.com >
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#5. Re: oil starvation - from Scott Chan
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 13:14:18 -0700 From: Scott Chan <s_chan@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: oil starvation The problem with the oil pressure warning sender is that it is metric (M12x1.5). There are many warning ( e.g., 20psi) and pressure gauge senders available for race cars, but most of them have standard pipe thread (1/8 NPT), not metric. I haven't seen anything useful in metric from VDO or others. So you'd need a M12x1.5-to-1/8NPT adapter. But you would need to isolate it on a remote hose to prevent vibration from cracking the sender, so you are now talking about AN-3 or AN-4 hoses as well. Alternatively, you can drill a 1/8 NPT hole in your oil filter housing. Just don't leave any drill shaving floating around! In my race car, I have a 1/8 NPT -> AN-4 mechanical pressure gauge and also the stock 7psi warning switch wired to a big honking blinking LED high on the dash. The gauge reads 58psi under load and 18-25 psi at idle, hot.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] oil starvation - from andy radin
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:19:44 -0700 From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] oil starvation "Ok, can we find a replacement sender that will light the light at a higher pressure? Does anyone know how we'd research this?" 15-50 psi adjustable warning light sender: http://www.longacreracing.com/catalog/item.asp?id=368&catid=11 http://www.longacreracing.com/catalog/item.asp?id=377&catID=11 with a 1/8" NPT fitting. You'd need to make a fitting adapter, probably all brass fittings from McMaster-Carr or similar. Anyone have the stock metric fitting size handy?
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#7. Re: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning - from Jason Jensen
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:22:52 -0400 From: "Jason Jensen" <jasonjensen75@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning Think of it this way, a laser detector is just like the E36 oil pressure sender... A radar detector will give you a heads up that there is trouble down the road. A laser detector will tell you, you just got screwed... Sounds like another gauge group buy is in order...:) Jason ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:05 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:02:41 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: oil starvation warning > > The problem is the switch is non-intelligent. It just triggers when pressure > drops below a certain value. Now, ~20 psi might be fine at idle and even if it > dropped to 10 psi (there's an old saying about how many psi you need for a > given rpm), you might still not damage the engine. What happens when you're > running at anything other than idle....say 6k rpms..and you lose pressure > (where it would normally be at ~60psi) to 10 psi? Damage is inevitable, no? >
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#8. RE: [E36M3] oil starvation - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 16:45:43 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] oil starvation Just got a set of 3 metric to NPT adapters for the oil pressure gauge I'm using as a test gauge on the E30. Napa has them and they are available from the SunPro site. About the same price when you add shipping from SunPro., $17.00 Sunpro Metric Adapter Kit - CP7573 See http://www.sunpro.com/cgi-bin/web_store.cgi?page=gaugecon.htm&cart_id=758605 9_3663 Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > -----Original Message----- > From: andy radin [mailto:fourfa@mindspring.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 4:36 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] oil starvation > > > Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 13:19:44 -0700 > From: "andy radin" <fourfa@mindspring.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] oil starvation > > "Ok, can we find a replacement sender that will > light the light at a higher pressure? Does anyone know > how we'd research this?" > > 15-50 psi adjustable warning light sender: > > http://www.longacreracing.com/catalog/item.asp?id=368&catid=11 > http://www.longacreracing.com/catalog/item.asp?id=377&catID=11 > > with a 1/8" NPT fitting. You'd need to make a fitting adapter, > probably all > brass fittings from McMaster-Carr or similar. Anyone have the > stock metric > fitting size handy? > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#9. RE: oil starvation - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 15:54:56 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: RE: oil starvation Here is how I've done it on several track cars: Run a stainless steel hose line from the OEM oil pressure warning light sender location (remove the OEM sender) to the driver side strut tower area. Attach a "T" fitting to the end of the hose at the strut tower (NOT to the engine side). The T-fitting should have ends which accept standard 1/8 NPT threads. Then attach any aftermarket warning light sender and the oil pressure sender with 1/8 NPT threads to the T-fitting. Run the electrical wires from the senders to your aftermarket gauge and warning light on the dash. Use a 20 psi sender for the oil pressure warning light. If you use one with a higher pressure, it will constantly be on at idle. Install the aftermarket oil pressure warning light in a location where it will get your attention in a hurry! (I personally thing the OEM warning light on the dash is too small and by the time some drivers notice it, it's too late.) HTH, Bob Stommel SPG Motorsports Indianapolis >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:52:58 -0500 From: "Thomas G. Clark" <toclark@cisco.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] oil starvation Ok, can we find a replacement sender that will light the light at a higher pressure? Does anyone know how we'd research this? Tom
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#10. RE: oil starvation - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 16:04:35 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: RE: oil starvation I haven't been following this thread too carefully, so I don't know if anyone mentioned this: you should add an additional FULL quart of oil to the engine any time you run an E36 M3 on the track (for a total of 8 quarts). The OEM oil pan will actually hold 9 qts. without causing a "windage" problem from the crankshaft or engine over-pressure. PTG ran 9 qts. of oil in their E36 M3 race cars with a similar pan, but then a high-strung race engine tends to burn a lot of oil. The extra quart of oil will keep your pressure from dropping too low under hard braking and cornering and will help keep the hydraulic lifters from collapsing. Bob Stommel