E36M3 #2267

Monday, May 06, 2002 21:48:43

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Rollbar & Harnesses - from Birkhead, Rob
#2. Re:What should I replace w/water pump? - from morris.michael@adlittle.com
#3. RE: Oil Starvation - from Legerlotz, Alan
#4. RE: [E36M3] WTB: Ecsta Supras - from Mel Silva
#5. Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Martyme104@aol.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Matt Henson
#7. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Zack Steinkamp
#8. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Chester Wong
#9. Re: [E36M3] smoking deals on AC jacks - from Jeremy Lucas
#10. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from NickG

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Rollbar & Harnesses - from Birkhead, Rob
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 09:30:35 -0700 From: "Birkhead, Rob" <rbirkhead@bb.directv.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rollbar & Harnesses I'd be interested as well in the list's input on harnesses with stock seats. I recently had my TC Kline bar installed (see fitment at http://home.earthlink.net/~rbirkz/carpage.htm ) and need to pick up some harness but want to keep the stock seats for now. I have heard from very trusted sources that you can get away with running a 6pt harness up and over the front of the stock seat with good results. While clearly not as a effective as in a race seat, it would still offer a last resort anti-submarining effect in an accident. Also does anyone have a source for Willans harnesses? I can't seem to find anyone who carries them. Thanks, Rob -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 9:16 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Rollbar & Harnesses Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 11:07:02 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Rollbar & Harnesses This past weekend I picked up a used TC Kline rollbar (thanks Ken!) which after repainting and getting new fasteners I'll be installing in my M3 this week. Anyone have any particular tips or tricks to offer? Note that this is my daily driver, so I want to do as clean an installation as possible. (And yes I'm aware of the need for proper padding, and I never carry rear seat passengers, so we can skip those parts.) Following on from that, I may later upgrade from the present Schroth Rallye 4 harnesses to a 5 point setup such as the Schroth Profi II or III. However I do intend to keep the stock seats, which poses a problem for safe routing of the sub strap. For anatomical safety and crash effectiveness this needs to be at an angle not too far off vertical, which precludes slipping the strap through the flap that joins the bottom seat cushion to the movable thigh support. I'm considering taking the seat bottom cover off and having an upholstery shops sew an aperture into it. That's assuming there's no other impediment in the seat construction, which I don't know. Anyone have words of wisdom or experience? Neil 96 M3 ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#2. Re:What should I replace w/water pump? - from morris.michael@adlittle.com
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:37:46 -0400 From: morris.michael@adlittle.com Subject: Re:What should I replace w/water pump? From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: What should I replace w/water pump? I know I should pick up some coolant from BMW (how many quarts?), and.. is there anything else I should replace while I'm in there? I suppose I should replace the serpentine and A/C belts.. any hoses I should replace as well? >>>>>>>>>> Reid- 1 Gallon Coolant, 1 Gallon Distilled Water for a 50-50 mix. Get an extra Gallon of each for piece of mind sake. Since the belts have to come off, you might as well replace them. Good idea too if you have spilled coolant or oil on them in the past. 32 mm low profile wrench is also needed, as well as some M10? bolts to remove the old WP with. Good luck, Mike Morris **** This is intended for the addressee only and may contain confidential business information. It may not be copied without our permission. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender as soon as possible and delete the material from any computer.****

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#3. RE: Oil Starvation - from Legerlotz, Alan
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:22:20 -0400 From: "Legerlotz, Alan" <alegerlotz@kronos.com> Subject: RE: Oil Starvation All of this talk of having higher pressure idiot lights and gauges is kind of funny. The type of thing we're talking about is momentary loss of pressure. Its going to lose pressure then come back quickly. Unless you're looking at the gauge at the exact moment that it happens, its not going to tell you anything useful. In fact it may be so quick that the needle never even moves...VDO oil gauges seem to have some delay. The light, as someone pointed out, is telling you what already happened. It is going to flicker and go out. If you're not looking at it, you'll probably miss it, although you have a chance of catching it out of the corner of your eye and at least being aware that there is an issue in that corner. The important thing is that in both cases the loss of pressure has already happened and the system recovered from it. Besides, this happens in high G corners at high speeds. Instead of looking ahead on the track you're going to study your gauge to see if the needle blips or the light comes on? Great, that is my opportunity to pass you in the corner (if you're in a race, not a driving school) or to back off when you hit the wall because you're not paying attention to track out. Gauges and lights are not very useful for this sort of situation. You check them on a straightaway and they can tell you if you have an long term race ending (or run group ending) oil system problem or a cooling system problem. -Al (been overfilling by a quart since 1997) 1996 328is #328 JP

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#4. RE: [E36M3] WTB: Ecsta Supras - from Mel Silva
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 15:32:08 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] WTB: Ecsta Supras Tirerack www.tirerack.com Discount Tire www.dscounttire.com or use http://www.kumhousa.com/ and select dealer locator Mel loving my Ecsta 712's -----Original Message----- From: James Mckenna [mailto:shutupkid@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 12:38 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] WTB: Ecsta Supras Date: Mon, 06 May 2002 13:31:46 -0400 From: James Mckenna <shutupkid@comcast.net> Subject: WTB: Ecsta Supras who sells kuhmo ecsta supras (235/40/17) for the best price? ive seen them as low as 90 a tire, but forgot to back up my links when i reinstalled... -james ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#5. Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Martyme104@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:23:57 EDT From: Martyme104@aol.com Subject: Premature Clutch Exhaustion Looking to purchase a fairly clean 1996 328is with 42k miles. However, the clutch pedal comes up 90-95% before it engages. Dealer claims this might be adjustable. Is 42k miles a bit early top be doing a clutch? What are the chances that it would require a new flywheel as well? Are there other issues with this particular Model/Yr Bimmer? Marty Martyme104@aol.com

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Matt Henson
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 16:37:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion --- Martyme104@aol.com wrote: > Looking to purchase a fairly clean 1996 328is with > 42k miles. However, the > clutch pedal comes up 90-95% before it engages. > Dealer claims this might be > adjustable. Umm.. I doubt it. The clutch pedel height may be adjustable but the relative engagement point will stay the same. If it was engaging too close to the floor then I'd say that maybe there's some air in the lines but that doesn't explain what you see here. Does anyone know if the clutch wear can be directly measured as on other cars? Maybe remove the Clutch SS and measure the depth to the release fork? > > Is 42k miles a bit early top be doing a clutch? > What are the chances that it > would require a new flywheel as well? Are there > other issues with this > particular Model/Yr Bimmer? Depends on how it was driven, location (mountains, etc), etc. 42K is a little low but not out of the 1st or 2nd standard deviation. The flywheels on these cars can fail due to the dual-mass dampening system. Most likely it's okay, though, unless you are getting some thumps on engagement. Don't get it resurfaced. If it's scored then it has to be replaced. I don't know of any other major issues, except maybe the radiator neck (rad is like $160 new from mail order so it's not expensive unless it overheats). Good Luck! -Matt > > Marty > Martyme104@aol.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 17:17:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion tough to tell with clutches unless you can visually inspect it. a friend who will go nameless replaced his in his 2001 Audi S4 at 20K because he did a few too many clutch-smoking-2nd-gear-uphill-in-san-francisco-with-nerve-racking-traffic-starts. another friend *finally* replaced the clutch in his 95 328 after ... drum roll ... 220K miles. he has 280K on the car and it's purring nicely. so it all depends ;-) zs --- Martyme104@aol.com wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 19:23:57 EDT > From: Martyme104@aol.com > Subject: Premature Clutch Exhaustion > > > Looking to purchase a fairly clean 1996 328is with > 42k miles. However, the > clutch pedal comes up 90-95% before it engages. > Dealer claims this might be > adjustable. > > Is 42k miles a bit early top be doing a clutch? > What are the chances that it > would require a new flywheel as well? Are there > other issues with this > particular Model/Yr Bimmer? > > Marty > Martyme104@aol.com > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion There are two holes on the bottom at the front of the tranny to allow access to the rear most oil pan bolts. Some have suggested using feeler gauges to measure something. What? I dunno. Also, the TIS outlines attaching something to the hydraulic lines to measure fluid displacement (I guess...I haven't looked into it too much). Chester --- Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> wrote: > tough to tell with clutches unless you can visually > inspect it. > > a friend who will go nameless replaced his in his 2001 > Audi S4 at 20K because he did a few too many > clutch-smoking-2nd-gear-uphill-in-san-francisco-with-nerve-racking-traffic-starts. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - your guide to health and wellness http://health.yahoo.com

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#9. Re: [E36M3] smoking deals on AC jacks - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 21:52:55 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] smoking deals on AC jacks Anybody with firsthand experience with these AC jacks? The closeout prices seem good. Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> > http://www.geocities.com/genidude/HydJackPcts.html > The following models are being discontinued, and are being sold at > unbeatable prices -

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion - from NickG
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Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 22:46:03 -0400 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion Actually, there is a BMW tool that allows you to measure how much is left on the clutch disc. The slave cylinder is unbolted, and the tool measures the height (or depth, depending on your point of view) of the release fork. As the disc wears, the fork moves further back. The tool gives an indication of how much use is left in the disc. Of course, the tools assumes that the clutch and flywheel are machined to factory specs. If the flywheel has been remachined at some point, or if maybe a LTW flywheel is used, then the tool's reading may not be accurate. Nick > Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 18:07:31 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Premature Clutch Exhaustion > > There are two holes on the bottom at the front of the tranny to allow access to > the rear most oil pan bolts. Some have suggested using feeler gauges to > measure something. What? I dunno. Also, the TIS outlines attaching something > to the hydraulic lines to measure fluid displacement (I guess...I haven't > looked into it too much). > > Chester

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