E36M3 #2280

Friday, May 10, 2002 11:29:35

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. 32MM wrench - from Gary A. Preece
#2. Re: brakes. - from Neil Maller
#3. Re: Euro Ellipsoid's by INPRO - from mkelley
#4. RE: Steering Wheel Swap - from Wesley A. Nicolas
#5. Re: Floating Rotors - from JUSTIN GERRY
#6. Not to start another war but.... - from Wayne Miller
#7. Garage Lifts - from Wayne Miller
#8. Re: [E36M3] Garage Lifts - from twisty M3
#9. Re: Long live the E36 M3 - from Jason Sarich
#10. rear shock mounts - from Steve Tymoszuk

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#1. 32MM wrench - from Gary A. Preece
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Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 21:21:23 -0400 From: "Gary A. Preece" <gapreece@entreky.net> Subject: 32MM wrench It takes a 32mm wrench for the fan clutch and the tie rod assembly. What I did was buy a cheap 1 and 1/4 inch wrench that fit the fan clutch great (it was much skinnier than a good brand). The Craftsman 32mm that I had was a tight fit, but worked. Since the $8 cheapo wrench was nothing to worry about, I ground down the sides so that it would fit the tie rods as well (the end that attaches to the steering rack). It only took beveling on both sides towards the opening to use on my new tie rod assemblies. Hope this helps someone...maybe everyone knew this already. Gary Preece

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#2. Re: brakes. - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 07:46:45 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: brakes. on 5/10/02 6:18 AM, Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> The 16 mm bolts holding the brake/caliper is actually a 5/8" head bolt. >> >> Ah no, not really. it's 16 mm. > > On my '96 M3, a 16 mm six point socket will work, but it is extremely loose > fitting. A 16 mm 12 point socket could round the bolt head off. However, > its really a ~15.5 mm bolt head, but I wouldn't want to send some one out > looking for six point socket in that size, thus my suggestion to use a 5/8" > six point socket. I've removed them about a million times, and it's never occurred to me that they're anything other than normal 16 mm head bolts. They're listed in the parts CD as 16 mm, and since I happen to have some not installed at present I just went and measured one: a nice 16 mm across the flats. I will point out that 12 point sockets aren't a good idea for any bolts that need significant amounts of tightening torque. They grip too near the corners and tend to round off bolt heads. Trivia question: name E36 bolts that genuinely are SAE sized. Neil 96 M3

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#3. Re: Euro Ellipsoid's by INPRO - from mkelley
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 06:39:04 -0700 (PDT) From: mkelley <mkelley@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Euro Ellipsoid's by INPRO One of the eBay sellers told me that they were the same as BavAuto's. Also, some of the eBay offerings are complete with bulbs, connectors, and instructions, just add wire. They have also told me that INPRO is a German company but input from my original question to the list indicates INPRO is sourcing the manufacture of the assemblies to Taiwan. Mike 98M3C >From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Euro Ellipsoid's by INPRO > > >Are these the new Angel Eye ellipsoids that Bavarian Auto has in their >latest catalog? They have that squashed halo ring at the top as well. > >Mel > -----Original Message----- > From: Jay Miller [mailto:jjmiller6@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:19 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Euro Ellipsoid's by INPRO > > > Date: Thu, 09 May 2002 17:16:13 -0700 From: "Jay Miller" Subject: Re: Euro >Ellipsoid's by INPRO > I also want to get the INPROs. the price is just too good. I've heard that >you have to get Euro connectors, and that adding H1 Plus bulbs makes them >10x better. > > Jay > > '95 M3 > > Date: Thu, 9 May 2002 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) > From: mkelley <mkelley@nc.rr.com> > Subject: Euro Ellipsoid's by INPRO > > Anyone have any experience or informed opinions about the Ellipsoid > headlight with Angel Eyes that are made by INPRO? These assemblies are > starting to show up on eBay at very attractive prices ($359 buy-it-now) >but > the list has swayed to ZKW in the past for quality, aesthetics, >availability > of replacement glass covers, etc.. > Thanks, Mike > 98M3C

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#4. RE: Steering Wheel Swap - from Wesley A. Nicolas
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:57:48 -0400 From: "Wesley A. Nicolas" <wes@nicolas.org> Subject: RE: Steering Wheel Swap >I guess it's a matter of taste, but if I were >going to take the time and money to do this swap, >I'd much rather use the '95 three-spoke from >the M3GT (and other euro's?). It's a much cleaner, >neater design than the goofy M coupe wheel. Sorry to jump on this thread a little late, but Alan Taur's website has a fantastic link regarding the "Euro" style 3-spoke wheel. The link is http://212.53.90.108/cardiy/openprocedure.cfm?id=83982465633033299939139 4050017 to save you the time in trying to find it. Wes '95 M3

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#5. Re: Floating Rotors - from JUSTIN GERRY
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:23:04 -0400 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: Floating Rotors Don't forget about your local dealer, if they give you 20% off (for BMWCCA) you can get floaters for ~$130, no shipping costs either even if you though you have to special order them. And no BMW won't replace your Euro P/N with the US P/N. FYI I think they list for $160.50. I find it hard to believe that some parts places/tuners sell these rotors at a HIGHER cost than the dealer LIST price! -Justin -- '76 02 (Whimsical) '97 M3 (Orion) (Brembo copies are the best deal at $49 each!) BMW CCA#77056 check out http://users.vei.net/jgerry

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#6. Not to start another war but.... - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:34:46 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: Not to start another war but.... I know that this comes up every once-in-a-while but I just wanted to comment based on my recent experiences. My M3 has been in the body shop for the past 2 weeks because of my garage crashing it so last week I drove my dad's 1995 Oldsmobile Aurora (not to be confused with his 2001 Oldsmobile Aurora). It was better than you would expect "your father's Oldsmobile" to be because the Northstar V8 makes some great sounds at high RPM but it doesn't quite have the handling and braking of the M3. I kept having to say to myself, "you are driving an Aurora, you are driving an Aurora" when I would approach my favorite turns. This week was a different story as I took his Acura NSX for the week. For whatever reason, lots of people poo-poo NSX's because they "have no soul" or "they are a fancy Honda" or whatever but I have to say that they have it all wrong. The car is amazing and is quite fun to drive. No, it won't win every stoplight drag race but once it is going, it is darn quick. I ran it against my OBDII cam kit M3 a few weeks ago and it was noticeably faster and this past Sunday, I ended up next to an E46M3 on the NJ Turnpike and he couldn't pull away from me at all. In fact, as the speeds increased, I started to slowly pull on him. Granted, our NSX has is not stock - it has intake, headers and exhaust and dynoed at 264 at the rear wheels so we aren't comparing stock to stock but there is nothing like having the engine scream to 8,000 RPM right behind your head (with an aftermarket exhaust). It really is a supercar that can be driven every day like a Honda and there is no way that those skinny tires (205/15's in the front and 225/16's in the rear) should stick so well. I guess that in another few weeks when we get the Mini Cooper S, the NSX will really never come out of the garage (46,000 miles on a '91). M3 content: I am getting my car back tomorrow and I do miss the torque. -Wayne

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#7. Garage Lifts - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 10:56:16 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: Garage Lifts Does anyone have any recommendations for an over/under garage lift? With the Mini Cooper S coming in a few weeks, it will be time for the NSX to be relegated to the "top shelf". I am debating between a normal lift that I can use for working on the cars and a storage-type drive on/off lift. Thanks, -Wayne

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Garage Lifts - from twisty M3
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 08:17:48 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Garage Lifts No direct experience, but in yesterday's mail I received a catalog from Eagle Equipement. Looks like they have a fairly extensive line of products, and the prices don't seem very high for what you get. I, however, can't speak for the quality etc., but they do offer free freight. ;) http://www.eagleequip.com/ Jonathan L. >From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> > >Does anyone have any recommendations for an over/under garage lift? With >the Mini Cooper S coming in a few weeks, it will be time for the NSX to >be relegated to the "top shelf". I am debating between a normal lift >that I can use for working on the cars and a storage-type drive on/off >lift. > >Thanks, > >-Wayne > > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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#9. Re: Long live the E36 M3 - from Jason Sarich
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 09:03:08 -0700 From: "Jason Sarich" <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> Subject: Re: Long live the E36 M3 >So I guess the question that begs to be asked...Has the >bar been raised or >the ball been dropped? Well, if you go strictly on one car magazines comparo then I guess you can think what you want. But here is some food for thought. Navid Khangi (a decorated club racer) has an race prepared E36 M3 and has been racing that for years. He times his laps at various tracks, and recently purchased an E46 M3. He drove BOTH cars at Thunderhill Raceway in Northern- California and if I remember correctly, beat the lap time of his race prepared E36 M3 by 15 or 17 seconds. So if you still think that bar has been dropped, I am going to want a reason why. Yes, the E46 is a bit more "curvy" than our slender E36, but make no mistake, you take 2 stock M3's and there is no way the E36 is going to out do anything that the E46 challenges it to. It is a better car...BUT is it better than a Ferrari, Porshe 911 TT, etc.? No. Those cars are pure bred sports cars. Just my 0.02 cents. Hope it doesn't ruffle and feathers. Jason Sarich ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com

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#10. rear shock mounts - from Steve Tymoszuk
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Date: Fri, 10 May 2002 12:25:11 -0400 From: Steve Tymoszuk <steve_tymoszuk@compuserve.com> Subject: rear shock mounts Hi, I am soon to replace the rear shock mounts in my 99 m3 and was wondering what everyone's thoughts are with regards to which rear shock mounts to use. I have pretty much narrowed my thoughts down to: :the the e46 rear shock mounts withe the Z3 rings OR the Ground Control rear shock mounts. With regards to the Ground Control RSMs, is there any addition noise introduced into the cabin with these mounts? Any though are appreciated. TIA, Steve

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