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#1. RE: [E36M3] Jack point ??? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:43:39 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Jack point ??? Try Ron Stygar at unofficial BMW http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/misc/e36_jack_points.html This is exactly what you are looking for. Mel -----Original Message----- From: Robert Manger [mailto:Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com] Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2002 10:19 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Jack point ??? Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:12:20 -0400 From: "Robert Manger" <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Jack point ??? Fellow listers I have the easiest question of the day. will the E46 jack pads fit on our e36's? If so is there any risk damaging something if used as a jack point. I am so sick of losing those damn hockey pucks, it drives me nuts. My local dealer charges more than $7 bucks each for the silly things. Thanks, Rob ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#2. re: Jack's pads - from Scott Yu
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:15:53 -0500 From: "Scott Yu" <scott@ditherdog.com> Subject: re: Jack's pads Hi Rob, I've had pretty good results from just cleaning off the pad mounting area (and the pad's prongs if dirty) and installing them with a little blob of clear silicone adhesive. They stuck just fine through at least 5 track events, but they can still be convinced to leave the car with a small screwdriver. Oh, and as to the original question, I think Ron Stygar wrote something about it. You can find his blurb on www.unofficialbmw.com Scott Yu =================================================== From: "Robert Manger" <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Jack point ??? Fellow listers I have the easiest question of the day. will the E46 jack pads fit on our e36's? If so is there any risk damaging something if used as a jack point. I am so sick of losing those damn hockey pucks, it drives me nuts. My local dealer charges more than $7 bucks each for the silly things. Thanks, Rob
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#3. More on harnesses - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:46:18 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: More on harnesses on 5/15/02 5:38 PM, "Wesley A. Nicolas" <wes@nicolas.org> wrote: > I would say it's an all or nothing package. Either run 5 point > harnesses, cage (or roll bar) with padding, race seats, and seat back > brace, with the harnesses properly set up so they don't pull down on > your shoulders when you impact. NEVER run 4 point harnesses. For those > who have visited OG Racing, they have a nice picture of a fellow who ran > Schroth (sp?) 4-point harnesses and because there was no > anti-submarining belt, the windshield was in worse shape than the rest > of the car (because his noggin hit the windshield. > > This is the concerned PCA instructor in me speaking. Although Wes gives good advice here about 5-point harnesses and roll bars (or roll cages), I have to disagree with his advice regarding Schroth 4-point harnesses. The Schroth 4-point harness is an excellent harness for someone who wants more support in a stock seat for driving school. It is both DOT and TUV approved and can therefore be used on the street. If fastened and tightened properly, there is less likelihood that the occupant will hit the windshield than with an OEM seatbelt. The OEM seatbelt's inertial reel in a BMW is designed to relax after the first impact. This happened to an instructor at a driving school at Road America a few years ago. Car was an E36 M3 with stock a seatbelt on the passenger side and a Schroth 4-point for the driver. Brakes let go as the car entered Canada Corner. The driver had the presence of mind to go off straight. On impact with the first tire wall, the OEM seatbelt tightened and held the passenger in place. By the time the car pushed past the tire wall and into the concrete barrier (second impact), the OEM belt had loosened and the passenger hit his helmet on the windshield. The driver was still harnessed in tight. Perhaps the fellow on the OG site didn't tighten the shoulder straps down tight enough. Or maybe he didn't have the shoulder straps located in the proper mounting place in the rear of the car, causing the straps to break loose or flex too much. The more likely problem with Schroth 4-point harnesses is "submarining" under the lap belt due to improper installation or use. This shouldn't be a problem if the lap belt is mounted properly and is tightened down around the hips before the shoulder belts are tightened. I've seen this so many times at driving schools, I can no longer count how many people have gotten into a car with Schroth harnesses and tightened down the shoulder belts before the lap belts, causing the lap belt to ride up on their lower abdomen. You WILL submarine under a Schroth 4-point if you use it this way. HTH, Bob Stommel SPG Motorsports Indianapolis
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#4. Cams or SC? - from Lew Becker
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:43:59 -0700 From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> Subject: Cams or SC? Subject line says it, for a 3.2 OBDII (97). I recognize that SC gives more "bang for the buck", but have concerns about forced induction issues (e.g. heat, detonation, etc.) and, as a result, increased need for more attention on a daily (albeit enthusiastic) driver (e.g. radiator, head gasket, etc.). The Dinan SC set-up appears to be well sorted out; and I expect the Eurosport/JC cam set-up will be as well (based on past experience with Josh). Thoughts and/or experiences with either or both? Lew Becker
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#5. Re: Jack point ??? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 11:44:30 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Jack point ??? on 5/16/02 10:48 AM, "Robert Manger" <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> wrote: > will the E46 jack pads fit on our e36's? If so is there any risk damaging > something if used as a jack point. I am so sick of losing those damn > hockey pucks, it drives me nuts. My local dealer charges more than $7 > bucks each for the silly things. on 5/16/02 10:48 AM, Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> replied: > This link should help you... > http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/misc/e36_jack_points.html However there's an even simpler method which costs almost nothing: - Buy a couple of 5/16" flathead bolts about 2" long - Drill a 1/4" hole through the centre of your E36 jacking puck - Countersink the hole with a larger drill - Fit the jacking puck into the car - Screw the 5/16" bolt up into the hole in the puck until its head is flush. The bolt will roll its own threads into the plastic puck, and is thick enough to keep the retaining prongs expanded in the same way that the E46 plastic pin does. Neil 96 M3
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#6. RE: crank fan delete - from kitwetzler@mindspring.com
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:08:27 -0400 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: crank fan delete > 3) everything in 2 but also install a second electric puller fan > (probably a SPAL brand) This is the only option that I would consider. Just be prepared, spal fans are LOUD. You might be able to fit a curved blade fan on your car, it will be less LOUD. On my car, the supercharger pulley comes very close to the fan and fan shroud, there is no way the thicker curved blade fans will fit. Installing the fans is interesting. Some people use the little push pin thingies, that are plastic and slide through the radiator. I would not. I took out the radiator and drilled 4 holes in the lip around it and used the Spal mounting kit bolted it right up. The fan in the engine bay is there not only to cool the engine, but to manage airflow... I've found that lots of components in there get toasty warm without a fan, even though the coolant temp is fine. My engine bay might be hotter than others, though. I'll try to get a webpage up about it soon, I took a few pics. -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Cams or SC? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 10:38:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cams or SC? Lots of people use SCs on daily-driven M3's without problems. The Dinan system, in particular, is probably not going to give you any trouble. It's still going to hurt reliability more than a cam but, as you said, the benefits are greater. I've had a turbo on my M3 for about 2 years now and reliability has not yet been a problem for me. It gets 100+ here for months at a time. We even drove it to a DE in 110 degree weather, 2 drivers, without an engine problem (there were some electrical issues related to my installation of the boost controller). Anyway, unless you are planning on racing the car for real, I'd think that the SC would be just fine. -Matt --- Lew Becker <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 09:43:59 -0700 > From: "Lew Becker" <lmbeckercfls@earthlink.net> > Subject: Cams or SC? > > Subject line says it, for a 3.2 OBDII (97). I > recognize that SC gives more > "bang for the buck", but have concerns about forced > induction issues (e.g. > heat, detonation, etc.) and, as a result, increased > need for more attention > on a daily (albeit enthusiastic) driver (e.g. > radiator, head gasket, etc.). __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
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#8. [E36M3] Re: Harnesses: 5 pt vs 4 pt - TCKline Rollbar - from Dinah DeRoller
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:14:41 -0400 From: Dinah DeRoller <dinah_g_deroller@redcom.com> Subject: [E36M3] Re: Harnesses: 5 pt vs 4 pt - TCKline Rollbar I'm running exactly that setup in my '97 M3 coupe: TC Kline Rollbar (the last one built in Ohio, they shipped the jig out to CA the next day), but I'm still using stock seats. Also have Sabelt 6-pt harnesses (with sub-strap between seat and thigh-bolster). Dinah >-------------------- 8 -------------------- >Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 15:20:06 +0000 >From: ajvdh1@attbi.com >Subject: Re: > >I'm very interested in this discussion. I've been doing >schools and open track events for a couple of years >now. While I'll never be a Bill Auberlin, I am fast >enough that hanging on to the steering wheel while >sliding around under the three-point harness is getting >real old. My velocities are also sufficent to warrant >some concern about what could happen in the case of an >agricultural excursion. > >So, I'd like to move to a better restraint system than >the three points. But, I've seen snapshots of what E36s >look like after going greasy side up, and the thought of >a set of belts holding me in position and making my >noggin the support point for the weight of the car >doesn't please me. > >I've been considering the TC Kline bar (not cage). >They're now being made locally. I've seen how they go >in the Coupe (which is what I drive), and it looks like >the center hoop is far back enough that it doesn't >present a hazard for front seat occupants, particularly >after judicious application of SFI approved padding. >I'd probably do Aluminum racing seats at the same time. > >Anybody out there running this setup on the street? ______________________________________________________________________________
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#9. [E36M3] Cams or SC? - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 14:40:49 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: [E36M3] Cams or SC? > I recognize that SC gives more "bang for the buck" I don't know that this is completely accurate. The cam kit is $3,000 for about a 50HP gain and a supercharger is $6,000 for about a 100HP gain so the price/performance ratios aren't that far off. Once you take installation costs into account, the scale may tip towards the supercharger but it is still pretty darn close. I have the OBDII cam kit and couldn't be happier with it but that doesn't mean that I don't plan on adding a supercharger in the future.... -Wayne
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#10. Re: [E36M3] 540i HFM innards ? - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Thu, 16 May 2002 13:36:38 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 540i HFM innards ? <mroblin@att.net> wrote: > I've pulled up a number of messages describing the similarities between > Euro M3 HFMs and 540 HFMs. Murray, They are not similar, they are identical except for the airbox attachment tabs. > The most obvious difference between the Euro/540 HFM assembly and the > stock E36M3 assembly is the assembly tube diameter, 3.5" vs. 3". True. > Is the mass flow sensor element for the Euro/540 3.5" tube the same > as the mass flow sensor element attached to the stock E36M3 3" HFM? Probably not, or JimC would not have to recode the chips for the euroHFM. > If so, why not just "reconfigure" the stock tube to a larger diameter? Even if the sensors were identical, how exactly do you propose to "reconfigure" the plastic casing?! alex f