E36M3 #2321

Tuesday, May 28, 2002 16:04:15

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. cross drilled rotor - from dholeman
#2. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Scott McClung
#3. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Jim Bassett
#4. Re: Momo seat bracket too high!!! - from Dan S
#5. Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay!! - from Vern Anderson
#6. Re: [E36M3] Where to buy Brake Rotors? - from Ron Buchalski
#7. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Doug Wirth
#8. RE: [E36M3] Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay! - from Birkhead, Rob
#9. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Scott McClung
#10. Oil - from Scott McClung

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#1. cross drilled rotor - from dholeman
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:12:24 -0400 From: "dholeman" <dholeman@racepad.com> Subject: cross drilled rotor Cross drilled, floating or stock you should always check the condition of your rotors before and after a track session. I have used the Movit kit for years w/o a problem. The main difference with these rotors (Porshe 993 rotors) is that they are cast with the holes. Most, but not all, brembo rotors are drilled which leaves them more prone to cracking. David

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:10:17 -0700 From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light How do you reset the oil service lights? Can this be done by w/o a diagnostic tool? I'm a new owner and it's time for my first change. I normally do most of my own service and plan to continue the trend with this M3. Scott '98 M3/4 '91 Corvette - track car '94 Q45t '01 Suburban -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 10:05 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 10:03:34 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light At 06:14 AM 5/24/02, twisty M3 wrote: >Hmm, I think I fall into your description. I like to fancy myself >somewhat intelligent, true or not, and I rarely fall for any marketing >hype... unless it's car-related. ;) Actually, I'm usually pretty thorough >in investigating things, but I haven't been with oil changing. > >I'm all for saving money and the environment, if I can find some proof >that the changes aren't necessary. I was going by 4-5k intervals (half >way through the lights) until I started tracking the car more often. I >was just using the fact that the oil gets so hot and *might* be loosing >some of it's beneficial properties as reason enough to change (talking to >many club racing mechanics that change every 3k miles too). I'll throw in my 2 cents: On the M3 when it was tracked heavily, I would change the oil 1/2 way through the lights. Worked out to be about 4500 miles. Using Red Line 10W40. Never had it tested though, kept the pan 1/2 - 1 qt overfull, rarely had lifter tap. Now that it's back to strictly street driving, I'll most likely follow the SI lights. And I will use one of the testers others have posted in order to get more info, but I suspect after 10K the Red Line will still be OK. On the race car, my mechanic (Bill Arnold) suggested I change it "when it gets dirty". <boggle> Thanks Bill, real helpful <g>. Having him show me on my car what "dirty" meant, turned out to be about 5000 miles. Most of that is street driving to/from the track. Using Mobil 1 15W50. There you go, one more (actually two more) useless data points <g>. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - nearly 114K miles, still a blast to drive 1993 325is #44 KP - ~92K miles, also a blast to drive ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:14:03 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light At 11:14 AM 5/28/02, Scott McClung wrote: >How do you reset the oil service lights? > >Can this be done by w/o a diagnostic tool? > >I'm a new owner and it's time for my first >change. I normally do most of my own service >and plan to continue the trend with this M3. You can reset the lights in one of two ways: with a reset tool from Peake Research ($50), or building your own: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/electrical/e36_reset_service_lights.html You can also get the code reader from Peake Research ($149), which will allow you to read fault codes and reset the Check Engine light as well as the Service Indicators. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP

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#4. Re: Momo seat bracket too high!!! - from Dan S
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:33:56 -0700 From: "Dan S" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: Momo seat bracket too high!!! > From: Tim Ng > > I went to install my MOMO seat braket monday and found > out it put the seats too high. My momo bracket is the > slider type so its a 2 piece unit. The slider whcih > bolts to the bottom of the seat and then the fixed piece > that bolts to the floor. There are 3 height adjsutments > on the front and back of my seat. I am already at the > lowest setting on both. I am installing MOMO street > racers whcih is their reclinable seat. I am only 5"9 ad > I am al\ready above the window belt line. Is there any > alternative seat brackets? I heard of TC klines BUT why > is their bracket lower? This is for a street car so I > need the slider and the recline in the seat. My first question is "what is too high?" I ask because I'm not sure what the window belt line has to do with anything. Now, if your head is hitting the roof (my usual problem), or you are trying to clear a cage, then I can understand. In several past E36s, I have tried to over come the above with aftermarket seats (clearance with a helmet, that is). Careful measurements show that very few (any?) aftermarket seats have a LOWER seat bottom than stock seats, UNLESS you go to a racing-shell style (no recline), especially when you leave room for sliders. The only one I found was a Corbeau ($$$), and it was only going to lower the seat a marginal amount. TC Kline's brackets were non-adjustable (when I looked into them years ago), hence the lower profile. Using side mounts can sometimes lower the seat, but I've never seen side mounts on non-shells. I know you don't want this solution, but you may have to modify the floorpan of your car (cut and weld new seat posts), which is what I did in my race car. Otherwise, get a different seat. Dan

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#5. Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay!! - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:38:35 -0400 From: "Vern Anderson" <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay!! This is great! Check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1832079088 &r=0&t=0 "Using 98+ octane fuel, and re-programming the fuel mixture and ignition timing of the engine management system this chip producess 340Hp. It safely raises the factory rev-limiter to 8000 rpm. This gives your BMW a broader power band and greater road speed in each gear. More power through effeciency. With the same part throttle opperation this actually improves fuel economy. View handeling charges and bid accordingly. The chip also removes the factory top speed governor. +170mph potential. In about 20min." (sic, sic and more sic) Wow - I can't wait to bid!!! 100 horsepower with only a chip!!! Wait, if I put two of these chips in, can I gain 200 hp???? Please program mine with the Speed Racer Mark V options that turn my brake rotors into tree-cutting blades and the rockets that allow me to launch my M3 over cones, Corvettes, P-cars and other stubborn obstacles. Sorry dude, the only way for a chip to add 100 hp to a US M3 is if you implant one in your brain to send you into virtual reality world.... Of course, the stock engine spinning at 8,000 will be exciting as the exhaust valves get slapped around by the pistons. Sorry if I sound a little punchy, but it's been a hard day. If anyone in CA knows this vanosne1 guy, please stop at his place and slap him for me. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 My JC chip/intake and Tunnell exhaust only gained me 14 rwhp. I want a refund.....

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Where to buy Brake Rotors? - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 19:42:59 +0000 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Where to buy Brake Rotors? Mike, The Euro Floating rotors are made in two pieces. They have an alloy center, and a steel disc, which are connected via several metal (brass?) pins around the hub. By contrast, the stock rotors consist of a single steel hub/rotor. The thinking is that the floating rotors allow the steel to expand and contract independent of the center hub, thus making them less prone to warping. They also provide better cooling. You can see the difference between the standard and Euro floating rotors here: Standard US M3 front brake rotor (drawing): http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images//brake1.jpg Euro Floating rotor (photos): http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/mcoupeq.gif http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images//eurorot.jpg Center of Euro Floating rotor (slightly distorted photos): Front: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images//eurorot1.jpg Rear: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/images/eurorot2.jpg -rb >Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 11:43:59 -0500 >From: "Michael Stembera" <m_stembera@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Where to buy Brake Rotors? > >Can someone explain what makes a rotor "floating"? Why is this good? > >Thanks, >Mike _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:48:33 -0700 From: Doug Wirth <DWirth@serena.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light I purchased the reset tool a few years ago. After I paid the Stealer $100 twice for reading my codes (they say it takes about an hour) I purchased the code reader. Now I can diagnose and reset the check engine light in about 2 minutes... Paid for itself very quickly. Doug Wirth Enterprise Sales Representative Serena Software 916-677-5417 Office 916-804-7900 Cellular 916-780-5333 Fax www.serena.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:14 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:14:03 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light At 11:14 AM 5/28/02, Scott McClung wrote: >How do you reset the oil service lights? > >Can this be done by w/o a diagnostic tool? > >I'm a new owner and it's time for my first >change. I normally do most of my own service >and plan to continue the trend with this M3. You can reset the lights in one of two ways: with a reset tool from Peake Research ($50), or building your own: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/electrical/e36_reset_service_lights.html You can also get the code reader from Peake Research ($149), which will allow you to read fault codes and reset the Check Engine light as well as the Service Indicators. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* *********************************************************************** Serena's U.S. Headquarters has relocated from Burlingame to San Mateo as of April 8th, 2002! Please make a note of our new address: Serena Software, Inc. 2755 Campus Drive, 3rd Floor San Mateo, CA 94403-2538 MAIN: 650.522.6600 FAX: 650.522.6699 Our Customer Support number has not changed. You may still call us toll free at +1 877 696 1850. The European support number is still +44 1494 765888. *********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ***********************************************************************

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay! - from Birkhead, Rob
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:57:37 -0700 From: "Birkhead, Rob" <rbirkhead@bb.directv.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay! ! Well, if it really is for the Euro 3.2L then it would only be claiming a +19HP increase (up from 321HP) and a 400RPM increase (7600 stock). That seems much more reasonable then... Rob -----Original Message----- From: Vern Anderson [mailto:vernon_anderson@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:44 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay!! Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 15:38:35 -0400 From: "Vern Anderson" <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: Wow - BMW M3 3.2 340Hp Euro Performance Chip on eBay!! This is great! Check this out: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1832079088 &r=0&t=0 "Using 98+ octane fuel, and re-programming the fuel mixture and ignition timing of the engine management system this chip producess 340Hp. It safely raises the factory rev-limiter to 8000 rpm. This gives your BMW a broader power band and greater road speed in each gear. More power through effeciency. With the same part throttle opperation this actually improves fuel economy. View handeling charges and bid accordingly. The chip also removes the factory top speed governor. +170mph potential. In about 20min." (sic, sic and more sic) Wow - I can't wait to bid!!! 100 horsepower with only a chip!!! Wait, if I put two of these chips in, can I gain 200 hp???? Please program mine with the Speed Racer Mark V options that turn my brake rotors into tree-cutting blades and the rockets that allow me to launch my M3 over cones, Corvettes, P-cars and other stubborn obstacles. Sorry dude, the only way for a chip to add 100 hp to a US M3 is if you implant one in your brain to send you into virtual reality world.... Of course, the stock engine spinning at 8,000 will be exciting as the exhaust valves get slapped around by the pistons. Sorry if I sound a little punchy, but it's been a hard day. If anyone in CA knows this vanosne1 guy, please stop at his place and slap him for me. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2 My JC chip/intake and Tunnell exhaust only gained me 14 rwhp. I want a refund..... ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 13:52:41 -0700 From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light Thanks for the tip. Just ordered one from FastLine Motorsports. Anyone use them before? I first tried to order directly from the mfg but realized they are right here in San Jose, so they wanted $13 for tax and $4 for shipping while FastLine ships for free and no tax.... Should come in handy over time!! Scott -----Original Message----- From: Doug Wirth [mailto:DWirth@serena.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:04 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:48:33 -0700 From: Doug Wirth <DWirth@serena.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light I purchased the reset tool a few years ago. After I paid the Stealer $100 twice for reading my codes (they say it takes about an hour) I purchased the code reader. Now I can diagnose and reset the check engine light in about 2 minutes... Paid for itself very quickly. Doug Wirth Enterprise Sales Representative Serena Software 916-677-5417 Office 916-804-7900 Cellular 916-780-5333 Fax www.serena.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:14 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 12:14:03 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Oil Serive Light At 11:14 AM 5/28/02, Scott McClung wrote: >How do you reset the oil service lights? > >Can this be done by w/o a diagnostic tool? > >I'm a new owner and it's time for my first >change. I normally do most of my own service >and plan to continue the trend with this M3. You can reset the lights in one of two ways: with a reset tool from Peake Research ($50), or building your own: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/electrical/e36_reset_service_lights.html You can also get the code reader from Peake Research ($149), which will allow you to read fault codes and reset the Check Engine light as well as the Service Indicators. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* *********************************************************************** Serena's U.S. Headquarters has relocated from Burlingame to San Mateo as of April 8th, 2002! Please make a note of our new address: Serena Software, Inc. 2755 Campus Drive, 3rd Floor San Mateo, CA 94403-2538 MAIN: 650.522.6600 FAX: 650.522.6699 Our Customer Support number has not changed. You may still call us toll free at +1 877 696 1850. The European support number is still +44 1494 765888. *********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. *********************************************************************** ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#10. Oil - from Scott McClung
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Date: Tue, 28 May 2002 14:00:18 -0700 From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> Subject: Oil So what oil is generally recommended for the M3? I've used Mobil 1 in almost all my cars for years now, so that would be my first inclination. Not sure what weight. I live in Northern CA if that matters. Scott '98 M3/4 '94 Q45t '91 Corvette '01 Suburban

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