E36M3 #2326

Thursday, May 30, 2002 15:55:00

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#1. RE: [E36M3] AP clutch--for use with LW flywheel... - from Andrew E. Kalman
#2. Re: [E36M3] FS: Rouge Engineering DMS Exhaust - from Reid Conti
#3. When OFF really isn't OFF - from Carl Stern
#4. Let's quiet the blinker relay - from Carl Stern
#5. Re: [E36M3] When OFF really isn't OFF - from matthew c. mead
#6. FW: [E36M3] When OFF really isn't OFF - from Reid Conti
#7. OBC Mileage Correction Factor - from Wayne Miller
#8. Re: [E36M3] OBC Mileage Correction Factor - from Jim Bassett
#9. OBC Mileage - A new discovery - from Wayne Miller
#10. FAILED NJ INSPECTION - Rediculous - from HYPERM3@aol.com

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#1. RE: [E36M3] AP clutch--for use with LW flywheel... - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 07:41:03 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] AP clutch--for use with LW flywheel... Re: >The whole point is to use a friction material that is superior to stock >Sachs (in fact the disc I speak of will be rated to 340 lb-ft of torque), >and incorporating the sprung center to get rid that d*mn tranny rattle. Hmmm ... A couple of years ago I had Centerforce build a pair of clutch disk sets (4 disks in all) for two M1s. These were their dual-friction compound, using the original (sprung) centers. I sent them everything (flywheels, disks, center plates and pressure plates) and they set them up for around 450 ft-lbs clamping force, IIRC. I worked directly with K. C. Payne at Centerforce's Custom shop. Anyway, those M1s shift waaaaaaaaay nicer than they did when they left the factory. The clutch disks look more like the "puck" style and less like conventional disks. -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#2. Re: [E36M3] FS: Rouge Engineering DMS Exhaust - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 08:58:22 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS: Rouge Engineering DMS Exhaust > For Sale; RE DMS exhaust. Excellent condition. I bought this used from Bob > Tunnell, which was used on his 95 M3 for a short time, to replace my > Stromung exhaust. I couldn't tell you what it sounds like, etc. as I never > installed it and decided to just keep the Stromung on the car for right now. > Asking $560 plus shipping. > > Thanks > Chris Gant > 95 M3 If anyone is interested in buying this exhaust.. I've got one for $550! (just kidding :) Anyway, if you're interested in buying and what to hear what it sounds like, there is a dyno sound clip on RE's website. Granted, you don't get a feel for what it sounds like in the car, or at cruising or anything.. but it's better than nothing! For extra effect, make sure you put a pager on "vibrate", put it on your desk, and have it go off just when the dyno run starts, like mine did. Makes you feel like you're *right there*! - reid

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#3. When OFF really isn't OFF - from Carl Stern
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:16:20 -0600 From: Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> Subject: When OFF really isn't OFF I noticed today that pressing RESUME on my factory cruise control (CC) will cause the car to return to the previous speed setting even after I use the up or down OFF positions. I expect this after disengaging CC due to brake or clutch action, but in every other CC I've used OFF deactivated RESUME until another speed set point was made. Is this how they all work or is my unit's OFF feature broken? Carl Stern 95 M3

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#4. Let's quiet the blinker relay - from Carl Stern
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:22:14 -0600 From: Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> Subject: Let's quiet the blinker relay Didn't see this one in Ron Stygar's list. This is just a minor annoyance ( a tribute to the greatness of the car when you complain about these things). My blinker relay is as loud and cheap sounding as a 60s american car. Stopped at a light with stereo off is when I really notice it. Any way to quiet this thing down? Where is it? After all, I'm not a retiree (yet) driving a Buick. I don't need quite that much feedback from it. Carl Stern 95 M3

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#5. Re: [E36M3] When OFF really isn't OFF - from matthew c. mead
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 12:35:24 -0400 From: "matthew c. mead" <mmead-bmw@goof.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] When OFF really isn't OFF On Thu, May 30, 2002 at 11:23:57AM -0500, Carl Stern wrote: > I noticed today that pressing RESUME on my factory cruise control (CC) > will cause the car to return to the previous speed setting even after > I use the up or down OFF positions. I expect this after disengaging > CC due to brake or clutch action, but in every other CC I've used > OFF deactivated RESUME until another speed set point was made. Is > this how they all work or is my unit's OFF feature broken? This is how my 97 behaves and a friend's 95 behaves. I think it's normal. -matt -- matthew c. mead 97 Dakar M3/4 - sharked, xbraced 97 White GS-R/4 - stock (wife's) 92 Black Miata - dropped, dampened, headed towards SM http://www.goof.com/~mmead/

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#6. FW: [E36M3] When OFF really isn't OFF - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:13:01 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: FW: [E36M3] When OFF really isn't OFF This sounds perfectly normal to me. The DOWN or UP position is cancel, not off. Both german cars I've had (VW and now my 95 M3) don't have an "on/off" switch for the cruise control.. I've never understood why japanese and american cars seem to have redundant controls. This is the way I WANT my cruise control to work. It's not like you're going to accidentally engage it. and if you do, all you have to do is -- surprise -- tap the brakes or clutch and it disengages. certainly not dangerous. I like the fact that my cruise is always available from the stalk, I hate systems where you have to turn it on, THEN set a speed. - reid On 5/30/02 09:23, "Carl Stern" <carl.stern@xilinx.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 10:16:20 -0600 > From: Carl Stern <carl.stern@xilinx.com> > Subject: When OFF really isn't OFF > > I noticed today that pressing RESUME on my factory cruise control (CC) > will cause the car to return to the previous speed setting even after > I use the up or down OFF positions. I expect this after disengaging > CC due to brake or clutch action, but in every other CC I've used > OFF deactivated RESUME until another speed set point was made. Is > this how they all work or is my unit's OFF feature broken? > > Carl Stern > 95 M3 > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ------ End of Forwarded Message

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#7. OBC Mileage Correction Factor - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 14:12:28 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: OBC Mileage Correction Factor With the larger injectors of my OBDII cam kit, the OBC average mileage (and range) went way off (reading too high). I knew that it can be adjusted and looked up how to do it: I found directions here: http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/1346/undoc_obc.htm and here: www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/e36/electrical/e36_obc_magic_tricks.html My OBC mileage was listed as 28.0 MPG and my actual mileage was 21.9. My original correction factor was 1,000 so I did the simple math and came up with a new correction factor of 782 (old CF*(actual MPG/OBC MPG). I used the directions found above to input this and was able to successfully do so but now my mileage is reading HIGHER than before. For this tank, it reads 31.0 and there ain't no way that I am getting 31.0 with the way that I drive. My last tankful was about 19-20 actual MPG. Has anyone else had a similar experience? At lunchtime today, I reset the correction factor to 1278 (as if it were OBC MPG/actual MPG) but then I came in to work so I don't know if that will work. Any comments out there? -Wayne

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#8. Re: [E36M3] OBC Mileage Correction Factor - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 11:27:43 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OBC Mileage Correction Factor At 11:13 AM 5/30/02, Wayne Miller talked about: >I found directions here: >http://www.geocities.com/motorcity/1346/undoc_obc.htm >and here: >www.eskimo.com/~dalus/bmw/e36/electrical/e36_obc_magic_tricks.html Try the directions here: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/repair_faqs/obc.html These have the corrected equation (which you figured out, I think). I had the owner of the original FAQ correct this about 5 years ago. The correction apparently made it over to the Unofficial E36 site when they took over the FAQs, but not to those other sites. With (OBC MPG/actual MPG) you should be fine. Cheers, Jim Bassett

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#9. OBC Mileage - A new discovery - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 15:48:33 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: OBC Mileage - A new discovery Okay, so I lied before. When I decided that the numbers had to be reversed, I just guessed at the correct number (greater than 1,000) and put in 1212 as the correction factor rather than the 1278 that I calculated once I got back into the office. This was bothering me so I just went outside to put in 1278 and discovered that the OBC will not allow any correction factor greater than 1250 so my mileage will be close but not totally accurate. We'll see on the next tank of gas how far off it is. -Wayne

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#10. FAILED NJ INSPECTION - Rediculous - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:43:47 EDT From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: FAILED NJ INSPECTION - Rediculous Hey all, So here we are again, 2 yrs later for a NJ inspection. To bring everyone up to speed who might not know my car, its 97 Supercharged and pretty much anything you can think of, its practically done. So, 2 yrs ago I failed as well. I failed for E46 aluminum pedals and smoked corner signals. They warned me but let me slide about the smoked tail lamps and single wiper conversion. Since then I added a couple things here and there, Momo steering wheel, silver gauge face, mostly cosmetics. Today, after changing steering wheel back to stock last night, I took my car to get inspected. No, I didn't fail for smoked lights. No, I didn't fail for airbag light permanently on. No, I didn't fail for the aluminum pedals. Nope, not emissions, they were damn near Honda ULEV levels if you can believe it (75 out of 650 limit). What then did I fail for? My black vinyl sun strip at the top of the window. My headlight covers which have big circles to let light through. And get this, I failed for my Titanium RK Jr shift knob because it didn't have gear-select indicators (If someone cant find 1st in my car, they damn well better get their butt out of it!) Gonna change it all tonight and go back tomorrow to pass. Thanks for letting me vent and may those who live in this state be prepared for a ridiculous Parsons inspection. Thank God its every 2 yrs. Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 S/C M3 ~Failed~

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