E36M3 #2347

Friday, June 07, 2002 01:04:24

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Front and Rear Suspension Bushings - from Jeff A
#2. Re: Last minute racing - from HYPERM3@aol.com
#3. FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? - from Jason Sarich
#4. Re: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? - from Matt Henson
#5. Re: bushings - from James Clay
#6. Superblue - from James Clay
#7. RE: ATE Super Blue Rumor? - from Patrick Mallon
#8. Knock sensor #2 - from Adam Fila
#9. Re: [E36M3] Knock sensor #2 - from Matt Henson
#10. Re: AC - from Gleb Arshinov
#11. RE: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? - from Bob Lenarcik

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Front and Rear Suspension Bushings - from Jeff A
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:34:59 -0500 From: "Jeff A" <aabel@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front and Rear Suspension Bushings > > I had made a post on different options for the bushings (expecially the rear > trailing arm). > > Many people recommended the BimmerWorld Poly Trailing Arm bushing. > > While I am at it, I decided to go for the Powerflex bushing for the front > and rear all around (while using BimmerWorld's poly bushing on the trailing > arm only). > > Some people chimed in and I got HORROR stories on Poly bushings. > > I spoke with Jay at Ground Control and he asked me to leave it STOCK and > just use their spacers on the rear control arm bushing and STAY away from > Polyutherane. > > I do about 15-20 track days a year and use the car as my daily driver in > Boston (i.e. horrible road conditions). > > > So to sum up my option: > > TO use or > Not to use poly bushings? > > Any experience from someone who drive thier car on track with the poly > bushings? > > Thanks in advance. > > Ahmad "MAJORLY CONFUSED NOW" Lutfeali I use the powerflex rear t/a bushings. I can say that the bimmerworld rear t/a bushings do squeak, as a buddy runs them in his race car so I went powerflex, which have been squeak free for a bunch of track time and about 9 mos. now. A good compromise for the weekend track rat and daily driven car. Pierre Collet, who races B mod, suggested that monoball rear t/a bushings are effective to further nail down the rear end during heavy trail braking, but others have noted that they are horrible on the street (I'm sure Kit will pipe in if he feeling particularly talkative ;)). In the end, I'd say the Powerflex bushings transmit slightly more NVH than the GC setup with spacers based on feedback I've gotten at the track, but they last longer as the GC solution does not extend t/a bushing life. Your call. As to the front c/a bushings, I'm running the Bimmerworld units. Not their solid Delrin units but their poly ones. They are harder than the Powerflex rear t/a bushings, and feel harder on the road as the trailing edge of potholes and other square edged bumps are transmitted into the cabin with a Thawump. They help steering precision is quite a bit better and are worth the tradeoff IMHO. In addition, James at Bimmerworld is a great guy (besides knowing the E36 chassis better than the BMW engineers themselves) and for that reason alone is worthy of your business. ;) I'd hazard a guess and say that Jay is hesitant on recommending poly bushings b/c they have a higher failure rate than rubber. If they fail, they tend to shit the bed w/i the first week or so. If they are OK after that, they'll be fine for a long, long time. I know of one Powerflex user that ran into this issue, remedied with new t/a bushings by overnight courier. Don't sweat the poly's. You'll be happy. Jeff

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#2. Re: Last minute racing - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:39:31 EDT From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: Re: Last minute racing Situation is I was talking with Osh again today because my car still runs poorly. He told me to give Alain a call at Last Minute Racing to get my car over there to get it checked out. He said that LMR is his east coast representation. I also couldn't get the site to work and when I called, all I got was a voicemail. This is why I was trying to find out if anyone has dealt with them. Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 S/C M3

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#3. FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? - from Jason Sarich
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:47:44 -0700 From: "Jason Sarich" <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> Subject: FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? Saw this posted on my work classifieds... I remember someones friend wants to buy an E36 and this sounds like a great one to have. 1999 BMW M3 Coupe Black metallic/black leather, 5-speed, 17k miles. Sunroof, heated seats, cruise control,Harmon-Kardon premium sound. UUC front strut brace, BMW factory X-brace. Professionally detailed every 3 months since new. $35,000.00 ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? It may be a good one to have but it's about 5K over market value at 35K. Ever since the E46 models have come out, the E36s have really dropped. Most buyers would rather own a 330i than an E36 M3, which is probably the major reason that the prices have been pushed down so much (since there's no real comparison to the E46 M3). -Matt --- Jason Sarich <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:47:44 -0700 > From: "Jason Sarich" <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> > Subject: FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? > > Saw this posted on my work classifieds... I > remember someones friend wants to buy an E36 > and this sounds like a great one to have. > > 1999 BMW M3 Coupe > Black metallic/black leather, 5-speed, 17k > miles. Sunroof, heated seats, cruise > control,Harmon-Kardon premium sound. UUC front > strut brace, BMW factory X-brace. > Professionally detailed every 3 months since > new. $35,000.00 > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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#5. Re:  bushings - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:48:40 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: bushings We sell both the urethane and the monoball components. Stock rubber isn't that great, urethane or the insert are both better but not the best. If you look at that joint through the range of the suspension's movement, it pivots on more than one axis. No flexible mount (made to pivot on one axis) can accommodate this for a long period of time. BMW messed up here - this should have been a bearing from the factory. The solid bearing does not make the ride harsh at all because it does not carry the load of the car. The only downside is price, but solid is the way to go here. James ------------------------------------------------------------------ James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance World Challenge / SCCA / BMWCCA Racecar Rental Genuine and OEM BMW Parts (540) 639-9648 ------------------------------------------------------------------

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#6. Superblue - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:50:15 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Superblue We are still able to get it by the crate, no signs of drying up from our rep, and we won't bend you over for it! ------------------------------------------------------------------ James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance World Challenge / SCCA / BMWCCA Racecar Rental Genuine and OEM BMW Parts (540) 639-9648 ------------------------------------------------------------------

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#7. RE: ATE Super Blue Rumor? - from Patrick Mallon
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:10:19 -0400 From: Patrick Mallon <zez413@comcast.net> Subject: RE: ATE Super Blue Rumor? Or plan ahead and buy for $8 by mail order http://www.bimmerparts.com/ Patrick Mallon 98 M3/2 No affiliation, etc. - just passing along a good price "Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:27:13 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: ATE Super Blue Rumor? I was at the local ricer shop getting violated by buying a $17 can of Super Blue (Note to self: plan ahead and by for $10 by mail order) and the guy behind the counter says that ATE is no longer going to make Super Blue. Now I give his info about as much credit as his neon window washer nozzles but has anyone else heard this rumor? Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 - super blue equipped Mid Ohio bound Friday, Saturday, & Sunday"

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#8. Knock sensor #2 - from Adam Fila
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:46:56 -0700 From: "Adam Fila" <fila@stealthaccess.net> Subject: Knock sensor #2 Checking my fault codes today, I am getting lots of 1226 - Knock Sensor #2. I saw a brief flash of CE light this morning after driving off - shortly after starting the car for the first time after a 2 day track event. I searched through my list archives, and see this is a very common problem (along with everything else my car went through so far, failed water pump, broken radiator neck, panel under engine flown off, hockey pucks fallen off, noisy VANOS... I have it all ! :) However, reading the many reports over the last 3 years I have been on this list, I noticed a pattern: a) everyone has the #2 sensor fault code and nobody has the #1 (1225) b) in most cases, replacing sensor does not solve the problem Bentley says to check the sensor and wiring, but a) and b) above makes me thing that's not what the problem is. If the sensors were prone to fail, wouldn't the #1 be equally as likely to as #2 ? I was just wondering if anything new was since uncovered on this, and if there is any real solution to this situation ? I am not really looking forward to removing the intake manifold to replace the sensor, and ending up having no effect on the fault code... I have also read that a noisy VANOS might contribute to this, and my VANOS is as noisy as they get - getting worse every year it seems. Does this mean that it's nothing to worry about (apart from what might happen once the VANOS fails catastrophically) or does the DME react to the fault code by retarding ignition just to be safe there is no knocking ? Any insight would be appreciated.. Thanks, -Adam Fila '95 M3

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Knock sensor #2 - from Matt Henson
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 20:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Knock sensor #2 Adam, I was one of those people who had big problems with #1226. I tried: - Clean and re-torque sensors - Swap sides to see if the code changes to #1225 - Use Oscilliscope to make sure that they are sending a signal. And none of that worked. So, I replaced the sensors and the code went away. I'm guessing that there is a software bug or something that always sets #1226 even if it's the other sensor that's bad. Anyway, replace them both. I think that NickG had the same problem and also fixed it by replacing the sensors. Nick? -Matt --- Adam Fila <fila@stealthaccess.net> wrote: > > Checking my fault codes today, I am getting lots of > 1226 - Knock Sensor #2. > I saw a brief flash of CE light this morning after > driving off - shortly > after starting the car for the first time after a 2 > day track event. I > searched through my list archives, and see this is a > very common problem > (along with everything else my car went through so > far, failed water pump, > broken radiator neck, panel under engine flown off, > hockey pucks fallen off, > noisy VANOS... I have it all ! :) > > However, reading the many reports over the last 3 > years I have been on this > list, I noticed a pattern: > > a) everyone has the #2 sensor fault code and nobody > has the #1 (1225) > b) in most cases, replacing sensor does not solve > the problem __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com

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#10. Re: AC - from Gleb Arshinov
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 22:59:57 -0700 From: Gleb Arshinov <gleb@barsook.com> Subject: Re: AC >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Elliott <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> writes: Paul> Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 19:59:56 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" Paul> <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: AC >>> The woefully inadequate M3 airconditioning is driving me nuts >>> in this hot Paul> weather<< Paul> Ive always thought the ac system more than adequate...sorry Paul> your having trouble with yours. Lack of IR filtering glass in M3 makes it feel *a lot* hotter. I am not talking about fancy metalic glass, but that plain greenish looking glass that many other cars of the era have. Gleb

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#11. RE: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 23:03:02 -0700 From: Bob Lenarcik <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? If the car is located in San Jose, then I know it. The owner is a close friend and used to be list member. While it may be priced higher than you think it should, Kelly Blue Book's web site says the private party value is $37,315. It's in showroom condition and $35 ain't bad compared to what dealers are asking for 30k mile M3s. My friend is willing to negotiate since it's a hardship sale - he needs use the money to race his GSXR750 with the AFM and AMA. - Bob '97 M3/2 -----Original Message----- From: Matt Henson [mailto:hensonator@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 6:24 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 18:13:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? It may be a good one to have but it's about 5K over market value at 35K. Ever since the E46 models have come out, the E36s have really dropped. Most buyers would rather own a 330i than an E36 M3, which is probably the major reason that the prices have been pushed down so much (since there's no real comparison to the E46 M3). -Matt --- Jason Sarich <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:47:44 -0700 > From: "Jason Sarich" <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> > Subject: FS: Someone looking for a 99' E36 M3? > > Saw this posted on my work classifieds... I > remember someones friend wants to buy an E36 > and this sounds like a great one to have. > > 1999 BMW M3 Coupe > Black metallic/black leather, 5-speed, 17k > miles. Sunroof, heated seats, cruise > control,Harmon-Kardon premium sound. UUC front > strut brace, BMW factory X-brace. > Professionally detailed every 3 months since > new. $35,000.00

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