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#1. Another fun day at Wayne's house - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:20:38 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Another fun day at Wayne's house Dear All, Well we spent another Sat at Wayne's house playing with our cars. Lucky for me the focus was primarily my car. We put in the Koni SA's in the front, with the 95 front strut mounts(I think this what they are called), and Eibach spring all around. You are probably wondering why I have not mentioned the rears. That is because for today we left the stock shocks in. I spoke with Jay at Ground Controls and he said that he is getting Externally adjustable Koni's sometime later in the year. So since my rear shocks are not that bad yet, Jay suggested leaving them in. We also changed the trailing arm bushings and installed the Shims that GC sells. We used a new strut cutting tool that Wayne bought. If you are going to install the koni's, buy it! Wayne told me that before he bought this tool, they would use a sawsALL, and then would work on the ends to smooth them out. this tool made a smooth cut after a few minutes.. Wayne found it at http://store.yahoo.com/autotoolexpress/exstrutcutto.html We also used Chester's tool to remove/install the trailing arm bushings. Another great tool.. I would also highly recommend renting this tool from Chester. It made the process VERY easy. I have heard other folks say that the eibach's are harsh. Well for this car, I would have to disagree. They only feel slightly stiffer than the stock springs. Last but not least, I would like to thanks Wayne, and Dave for helping me out with the car. Without their help, I could not have done this job. Thanks GUYS!!! Mo
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#2. Autosolutions shifter for E36 M3 - from Gcfuller@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 19:37:43 -0400 From: Gcfuller@aol.com Subject: Autosolutions shifter for E36 M3 Vern- I have the Autosolutions "ultimate" kit and it is awesome (the one that replaces the whole assembly, pivot point, etc. If this is what you can get, I'd recomment it. I was one of the "beta" testers for this product, and it has been improved since. Let me know if you have anymore questions, or just call Ron at Autosolutions - he's a great guy. Greg - St. Louis 98M3/4 - lot's 'o stuff (Vern - glad to hear the wheels are working out for you!) Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:49:19 -0400 From: "Vern Anderson" <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: Autosolutions shifter for E36 M3? Hello all, Does anyone have any experience or info about Autosolutions shift kits? I have an opportunity to purchase an almost new one below cost for my 98 M3 but I am unfamiliar with the brand. Thanks in advance for any info! Vern Anderson 98 M3/2
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#3. floor jacks revisited. - from Jeff A
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:46:01 -0500 From: "Jeff A" <aabel@austin.rr.com> Subject: floor jacks revisited. I admit it. I have floor jack envy. At the track, people have serious hardware. I, too, would like a nice jack that doesn't require a zillion pumps to get my car in the air, one that I could operate with a finger and juggle with one hand, and have a low enough profile so I don't have to drive my lowered M3 onto blocks. Since I can't have all that and stay married (you paid what for a freaking floor jack, and who's this Steve character to whom you promised your soul?), does anybody have experience with these units (from Norco)? http://www.mile-x.com/norco71230.html - Jeff, in need of a low profile floor jack
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#4. RE: [E36M3] floor jacks revisited. - from David Ngo
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 23:08:50 -0400 From: David Ngo <dngo@commvault.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] floor jacks revisited. I have one. I bought it from JackXchange (http://www.jackxchange.com) instead of a Lincoln after Lincoln switched to foreign manufacturing plants and their quality suffered. For my purposes, it's perfect (except for dragging it to autocrosses - lugging around 103lbs. gets old quickly, though it does intimidate other drivers. ;-) ) For autocrosses, I'm considering picking up a 37lb. jack from Harbor Freight for $200, which I understand are backordered forever. It's got a 2 piece handle and is built like a battleship. No problems with leaks or blown seals at all so far after plenty of lifting. I have no problems lifting my car (with H&R OE Sport springs) though to reach the front crossmember I have to jack the car up from the side first to preload the suspension. I'm pretty sure, though, that this is something I'd have to do with any jack, even with stock springs. I also like the AC Hydraulic jacks that Steve D'Gerolamo sells. They're somewhat lighter, but with a shorter body. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff A [mailto:aabel@austin.rr.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 12, 2002 10:55 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] floor jacks revisited. > <snip> > Since I can't have all that and stay married (you paid what > for a freaking > floor jack, and who's this Steve character to whom you > promised your soul?), > does anybody have experience with these units (from Norco)? > > http://www.mile-x.com/norco71230.html > > - Jeff, in need of a low profile floor jack >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] floor jacks revisited. - from Skip Bogard
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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 00:00:57 -0400 From: Skip Bogard <skip.bogard@alumni.duke.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] floor jacks revisited. I was looking for the country of manufacture and found this instead.... > Made in the USA > Almost 2/3 of Norco's product line are now made in > the USA. Look for our "Made in the USA" logo > throughout our on-line catalog. If it's made in China, I wouldn't trust it not to leak. But chute, why don't they list the country of manufacture for all their products, given they put so much effort into their web site? What is there to hide? - Skip (always a product skeptic) Jeff A wrote: > > Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:46:01 -0500 > From: "Jeff A" <aabel@austin.rr.com> > Subject: floor jacks revisited. > > I admit it. I have floor jack envy. At the track, people have serious > hardware. I, too, would like a nice jack that doesn't require a zillion > pumps to get my car in the air, one that I could operate with a finger and > juggle with one hand, and have a low enough profile so I don't have to drive > my lowered M3 onto blocks. > > Since I can't have all that and stay married (you paid what for a freaking > floor jack, and who's this Steve character to whom you promised your soul?), > does anybody have experience with these units (from Norco)? > > http://www.mile-x.com/norco71230.html > > - Jeff, in need of a low profile floor jack > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > *************************************************************
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Use of Harnesses sans roll bar - from Carey Probst
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Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:35:23 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Use of Harnesses sans roll bar Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 10:23:25 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Use of Harnesses sans roll bar Patroon Chapter has outlawed all 4 point harnesses for Drivers Schools, not sure about autocrosses. They require either stock 3 point or the 5 or 6 point, but they don't specify a roll bar with the 5 or 6 point. I run Schroth Autocontrols with ASM in my M3 for street and track, so will not be doing any home chapter drivers schools with Patroon. Couldn't get a good reason, other than possibility of submarining if belts not worn properly. Couldn't reference a specific incident or injury, only the 'we decided'. Personally I don't feel safer in the OEM than the Schroths which are TUV and DOT approved. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff A [mailto:aabel@austin.rr.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 8:45 AM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Use of Harnesses sans roll bar > > > Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:33:23 -0500 > From: "Jeff A" <aabel@austin.rr.com> > Subject: Use of Harnesses sans roll bar > > I don't recall seeing any discussion on the above subject, and in > an archive > search, I found Neil's comments are well writtten and crystallize > the issue. > I'm in the common situation of trying to improve safety and car control by > upgrading my restraint system, from factory belts to something more robust > like a 4, 5, or 6 point harness. The street compromises of a > roll bar (roll > cage totally unacceptable) are difficult to swallow for me. > > I was wondering if anyone had thoughts to add. I've talked with vendors, > racers, DE instructors, a DE president, TCK, I/O Port Racing, and whomever > else would give me their thoughts on the issue, and I remain undecided. > I've gathered lots of opinions, and a few people have backed up their > thoughts with anecdotal evidence. Of interest, the folks at I/O Port who > advocate a roll bar, detailed two E36 rollovers. They cited poor roof > integrity, totally crumpled A pillars, and somewhat bent B pillars, as > evidence that track driven E36's need a roll bar. Interesting to > note that > both drivers walked away, one was wearing the Schroth ASM 4-point harnes, > the other factory belts. > > ------------------ > > Using a roll bar with 4/5 point harness (and of course helmet) will > undoubtedly increase passive safety for track use. It will also > render your > rear seat unusable for passenger occupancy the rest of the time. > On the street the bar, when used without helmet and harness, may also > compromise front seat safety unacceptably. This will be worse for tall > drivers, whose seat position can put their unprotected head close to the > bar, but may not be much of an issue at all for short drivers. > It'll tend to > be better for coupés, but worse for sedans, due to the respective B pillar > positions. > > - The argument is sometimes advanced that a 4 (or 5) point harness should > not be used without a roll bar or cage, since in case of a rollover with > severe roof collapse (a la Sears Point) the occupants may be held upright > and suffer serious spinal injuries. In 5 years I've never seen or heard of > any such occurrence at a school, although the possibility warrants > discussion. A couple of club chapters now mandate using only the stock > lap/diagonal belts if there's no rollover protection. However it's also > absolutely certain that a 4 point harness offers superior > protection in any > other accident mode than total roof collapse. > What's the probability of a rollover with severe roof collapse vs. that of > all other accident modes combined? Where is the line of compromise drawn, > and who should make that decision? > > - With regard to rollovers, there may be some regional variations at play. > The tracks I've driven on here in the Midwest are: > Gingerman > Grattan > Indianapolis Raceway Park > Mid Ohio > Michigan International Speedway > Putnam Park > Road America > Of these only MIS and RA even generate 5th gear speeds in an M3, > and at MIS > the higher speeds are out on the NASCAR bowl, which is wide and > predictable > (well, it is if you're not drafting nose-to-tail in the pack at 180 mph, > anyway!). Obviously I'm assuming that rollovers severe enough to collapse > the roof totally tend to require the energy of higher speeds. > Are the conditions and the risk trade-offs different at Summit Point, Road > Atlanta, Laguna Seca and others, with their higher speed corners? > Maybe so. > > My point in all this is that running a street car at a race track is a > safety compromise from the very start. There are few absolute answers, and > every participant needs to make his or her own informed and > well-considered > decisions about safety. > > Having said which, maybe I'll see some of you at Motor City's > school at MIS > the weekend after July 4th. > > Drive safely. > > Neil > 96 M3 > > ------------------- > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > > ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#7. Bosch Ellipsoids - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 21:50:15 -0700 From: Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: Bosch Ellipsoids The Bosch Ellipsoids fit with a Dinan Vortech V2-SQ, as long as you remove the mounting plate and turn the filter around. Took some doing, but they definitely fit. And, they look great. Lighting is *much* improved over stock headlights. (mine has HIDs) -kit 97m3/4 Dinan Supercharger w/ ellipsoids...
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Need Help with Cooling Problems - from Paul Robertson
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:37:20 -0700 From: "Paul Robertson" <robepa@wwc.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need Help with Cooling Problems From Automotive engines theory and servicing by James D. Halderman P# 148 shortened because I am to lazy to type it all. removing the thermostat can cause overheating ... this is true for three reasons: 1. collant can flow threw the radiator more quickly 2. smaller differance in collant to air temperture lowers heat transfer 3. without the thermostat much of the collant can return to the engine without goint threw the raditior. Paul
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Mobile 1 - "prices are falling" - from Johnny Lee
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 15:35:24 -0500 From: Johnny Lee <mclee@ieee.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Mobile 1 - "prices are falling" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:33:03 -0400 From: Johnny Lee <mclee@ieee.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Mobile 1 - "prices are falling" Same thing here in DC/Baltimore area. I stopped by Walmart yesterday and they didn't have the 5 gallon jugs of Mobil 1. So I just picked up the individual ones... -----Original Message----- From: Bob Vaughn [mailto:Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net] Sent: Monday, June 10, 2002 12:45 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Mobile 1 - "prices are falling" Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:32:03 -0700 From: Bob Vaughn <Bob_Vaughn@Telestream.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Mobile 1 - "prices are falling" > > ... not sure if this is regional > > (North Carolina) or not but thought I would pass it on as these are not > > available most of the year and the price is right. > > Mike > > 98M3C I've heard of these large container's being available at Walmart before but I've never seen them in the many times I've been to Walmart in northern CA. Must be a regional thing. They do have the big jugs of Castrol Synth which I'm not interested in though. -- Bob '95 M3 ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Need Help with Cooling Problems (Long) - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:05:24 -0500 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need Help with Cooling Problems (Long) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:55:40 -0400 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need Help with Cooling Problems (Long) Just got back from my mechanic... It does not look like it is the head gasket. I have been running without the internal guts of the thermostat for the last couple of weeks due to it sticking at a previous track event. I just got a new 88C thermostat and installed it. I took the car on the highway for 10+ miles keeping the RPMs between 5K and 7K and varying the engine load by alternating full throttle and part throttle. The temp did not budge past halfway. In my particular case, it looks like not running with a functioning thermostat in combination with not running the air duct/underpanel may have caused the problem. I plan on installing a new radiator cap as well and probably installing the 80C auxiliary fan switch as added insurance. Anyway, I have a track event in a couple of weeks where I can subject the car to a racing-type environment to test for sure, but I am keeping my fingers crossed! I will let you all know the outcome if it indeed turns out to be the head gasket. Geof ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************