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#1. FS: Embroidered //M3 Floor Mats - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:43:21 -0700
From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com>
Subject: FS: Embroidered //M3 Floor Mats

Subject line says it all. Mats are factory embroidered and are black. These
have been in my '95 for about a year.

The only mat that ever really saw any use is the D/S, and the rears have
never been in the car. The D/S carpet itself is in excellent condition, but
the embroidery could use a good cleaning.

First $50 gets it. Buyer pays shipping.

-peterg

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#2. re: RMS short shifter - from Reid Conti
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 18:23:16 -0700
From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net>
Subject: re: RMS short shifter

OK, I have no idea what's going on here.  I've looked at UUC's website some
more, and I simply don't understand what they're selling, what the different
parts are, where they fit, and how it compares with the RMS kit.

It looks to me like UUC gives you a UUC shifter rod and parts.. the RMS kit
gives you a new carrier, but the shifter rod they give you is just a new
stock part.  So does UUC shorten throws using a different shifter rod, and
the RMS does it by using a different cup to modify the shift point?

But then why on earth does UUC show a picture of their shifter with a new
carrier as well?  They don't seem to sell it.. they just picture it so it
looks nice.. 

so it doesn't seem like I need the UUC rod if I have the RMS piece, because
they probably don't work right together.. oh I am beyond confused.  I still
need a a new cup thingy to hold the ball, but.. ok I just can't think
anymore.  if anyone has some info that can straighten me out, I'd appreciate
it :)

- reid

> So, lucky me, I ended up with a free RMS short shifter.
> 
> Everyone was pointing out it is basically the UUC short shifter, which is
> $295.  Upon closer inspection, I found that to be half true.  First of all,
> the bottom piece (the horizontal one) looks identical to the UUC part.  Fair
> enough.  The upper part, however, is the stock BMW part -- it's the "before"
> picture from the UUC website before and after.  So it's not height
> adjustable, it has the crappier bushing at the bottom, and the plastic
> "ball".
> 
> I still need to get a carrier bushing, I think I'll buy UUC's for $25.
> 
> So here's my question -- what's the deal?  RMS sells their kit for $395.  I
> don't see how they get away with selling a half UUC and half BMW kit for
> more than UUC charges for a whole kit.  Can I buy the UUC height adjustable
> upper piece separately?  I didn't see it anywhere on their website..
> 
> Anyway, I guess my question is, what all do I need to make this work?  I
> plan on buying the UUC carrier for $25, and I know I also need an oval (not
> round) bushing for the front of the horizontal piece.  Other than that, can
> I just install it as-is?  Should I get the UUC vertical rod?
> 
> thanks!
> 
> 
> - reid
> 
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#3. Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:23:46 +0000
From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com>
Subject: Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen

Is anyone on the list going to attend this school on June 24-25?  I received 
confirmation this week, so I'll be there.  It'll be my first time at this 
track, although Wayne Miller's videos provided a great overview.

-rb


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#4. Re: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 19:33:53 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen

=)  Hope you enjoyed watching me in one of those videos :)  We were stuck
behind a train and Wayne's original plan was just to follow me for one lap so I
let him by.

Unfortunately, Wayne, Jim El Nabli and myself are heading to the Pocono IMSA
Long course driver school on June 25th.  Apparently, there are quite a few
spots left, but there are a few constraints: middle of the week and no
beginners.  If you don't mind taking the day off and aren't a beginner, go
visit the Delaware Chapter website (http://www.delvalbmwcca.org) and think
about registering.

Chester

--- Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:23:46 +0000
> From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen
> 
> Is anyone on the list going to attend this school on June 24-25?  I received 
> confirmation this week, so I'll be there.  It'll be my first time at this 
> track, although Wayne Miller's videos provided a great overview.


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#5. Re: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 19:36:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen

BTW, Wayne and I are also doing the 3 day (yes, three days!) at Watkins Glen on
July 17 - 19th.  That will certainly be a blast...and it's $300 too...so it's
cheap, cheap, cheap!

Will probably used my Pagid Oranges in my Movit front and rear brakes for the
June 25th and July 17-19 schools.  =)

Chester

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#6. Re: Roundel Autocross Article (shock costs) - from Bob Tunnell
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Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:28:37 -0600
From: Bob Tunnell <bobt@bimmerhaus.com>
Subject: Re: Roundel Autocross Article (shock costs)

The hottest racer in the Sin City Chapter, Kirk Lachman, writes:

>Well, the JRZs aren't cheap, but they aren't the hot set up (HSU)
anymore
>in stock or street prepared classes anymore. ... Motons are the HSU.

JRZ and Moton are very similar in their design because they were both
designed by Jerome Van Gool (the "J" in JRZ).  Jerome left JRZ to form
Moton a few years ago.

I've used and sold both and the greatest differences I've found between
JRZ and Moton these days are in quality control and factory support and
-- trust me -- there is no comparison.

>Price?  Only about $5400 per set of 4.  <gulp>  How fast do you want to
go?

That's about right for a set of top-of-the-line remote reservoir,
aluminum body, triple-adjustable Motons for an E46 (E36 are slightly
less).  But non remote single-adjustables are "only" about $2800.  And
that's before any BMW CCA discount. <g>

The biggest advantage with Motons over most Konis or Bilsteins is the
*huge* valving, which provides a tremendous range of adjustment.  The
primary bump adjustment is 14 clicks and the rebound is 16 clicks -- and
each click is noticeable.

Yes, they're very streetable on their softer settings.  I've driven
cross-country 5-6 times in the very car featured in the Roundel article
and haven't lost a filling yet. <g>

--Bob

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#7. Re: Brake squeal AFTER applying CRC - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:52:29 -0400
From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: Brake squeal AFTER applying CRC

Jeff,

Havent you guys had any luck with the hi temp silicone grease?  Ive used
this exclusively and have never had any kind of squeel after its
application..This is even true on the infamously noisey Repco Deluxe pads
years ago.  Ive used it many times on many different pads and cars, and have
never had any noise from it..I tried the CRC orange stuff once, and hated it
so much I went right back to the silicon grease.  And, the CRC made
noise...the grease didnt.  For the track I would think this would be the
ideal solution.

Paul Elliott
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'99 White M3; < 45K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS  crank pulley:
11 psi;  AA Water Injection;  Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension;
Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Re: Roundel Autocross Article (shock costs) - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 03:50:14 -0400
From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <astaylor@taylorautosport.com>
Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Roundel Autocross Article (shock costs)

Don't forget Ohlins (which I use (triples in front...4-ways in back)) which
are undoubtedly the best damper technology going right now (from 4 years in
a row CART champion, the Audi R8, to Trans-Am championships and The Racer's
Group Porsches)...also out there which are very good dampers are Dynamic
Suspension and Penske.

If you are going to spend $$$$ on dampers, then the three above are really
cream of the crop (what the real pros use...)...however, there aren't any
bolt-ons for BMWs so you gotta make 'em work (like fabricating front struts
and making your own rear shock towers).  The really cool thing is (like
Bilsteins) the front inserts of the above three, are inverted for cooling,
so they stay on.

That said, Motons are really nice and you can get a car to do what you want
it to more than other options not mentioned, and the older JRZs are too.

Speaking of...a friend of mine has a complete set of JRZ doubles (one
weekend on them since a factory rebuild) for an E36 for sale right now for
$3600 if anyone is interested...

Shocks are everything...well, maybe downforce comes before shocks...tough
call, ehh?

Andrew

>
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:28:37 -0600
> From: Bob Tunnell <bobt@bimmerhaus.com>
> Subject: Re: Roundel Autocross Article (shock costs)
>
> The hottest racer in the Sin City Chapter, Kirk Lachman, writes:
>
> >Well, the JRZs aren't cheap, but they aren't the hot set up (HSU)
> anymore
> >in stock or street prepared classes anymore. ... Motons are the HSU.
>
> JRZ and Moton are very similar in their design because they were both
> designed by Jerome Van Gool (the "J" in JRZ).  Jerome left JRZ to form
> Moton a few years ago.
>
> I've used and sold both and the greatest differences I've found between
> JRZ and Moton these days are in quality control and factory support and
> -- trust me -- there is no comparison.
>
> >Price?  Only about $5400 per set of 4.  <gulp>  How fast do you want to
> go?
>
> That's about right for a set of top-of-the-line remote reservoir,
> aluminum body, triple-adjustable Motons for an E46 (E36 are slightly
> less).  But non remote single-adjustables are "only" about $2800.  And
> that's before any BMW CCA discount. <g>
>
> The biggest advantage with Motons over most Konis or Bilsteins is the
> *huge* valving, which provides a tremendous range of adjustment.  The
> primary bump adjustment is 14 clicks and the rebound is 16 clicks -- and
> each click is noticeable.
>
> Yes, they're very streetable on their softer settings.  I've driven
> cross-country 5-6 times in the very car featured in the Roundel article
> and haven't lost a filling yet. <g>
>
> --Bob
>
>
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen - from Carey Probst
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 09:09:48 -0400
From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: RE: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen

Had planned to until Patroon outlawed 4 point harnesses.

The Glen is a great track to run, 2 long straights plus some very
interesting corners.

Fortunately, Genesee Valley hasn't restricted belts so I'll continue to run
with them there.

Carey Probst,  '99 M3/2,  BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters
Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State,
the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:25 PM
> To: E36M3
> Subject: [E36M3] Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen
>
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 02:23:46 +0000
> From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Patroon Chapter School @ Watkins Glen
>
> Is anyone on the list going to attend this school on June 24-25?
> I received
> confirmation this week, so I'll be there.  It'll be my first time at this
> track, although Wayne Miller's videos provided a great overview.
>
> -rb
>
>
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Brake squeal AFTER applying CRC - from Jeff A
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Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 08:15:45 -0500
From: "Jeff A" <aabel@austin.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Brake squeal AFTER applying CRC

Paul,

I'll give it a shot.  It seems that high temp silicone may be easier to pull
off than the ever-tacky red goop from CRC.

Thanks for the tip.  If I weren't so lazy, I'd try it right now but I'll
just wait till my next track day.  I'll let everyone know how it works out.

Jeff


> Jeff,
>
> Havent you guys had any luck with the hi temp silicone grease?  Ive used
> this exclusively and have never had any kind of squeel after its
> application..This is even true on the infamously noisey Repco Deluxe pads
> years ago.  Ive used it many times on many different pads and cars, and
have
> never had any noise from it..I tried the CRC orange stuff once, and hated
it
> so much I went right back to the silicon grease.  And, the CRC made
> noise...the grease didnt.  For the track I would think this would be the
> ideal solution.
>
> Paul Elliott

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