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#1. RE: [E36M3] Replacement engines - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:18:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Replacement engines You'd need to buy the entire engine. Oh, I also forgot to mention that these engines come with headers too...which are like $1500. Anyway, anyone considering this swap should definitely look into getting the engine stripped and rebuilt just to check....or at least do compression and leakdown test. Chester --- Michael Michalski <mmichalski@leaselink.com> wrote: > That doesn't sound like a bad idea. How would I go about acquiring a 3.2L > Euro Evo engine?? Can I turn my existing engine into a Euro Evo or do you > have to buy the entire engine? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Replacement engines - from Jon S.
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 13:39:09 -0500 From: "Jon S." <treehouse@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replacement engines You Said: >And finally, cost...For $6500, > you can get a whole 3.2L euro evo engine. > > Chester I've got my mastercard out... who do I call? $6500 complete? Will it run? Seriously, I think you're about $3000 off here. I would LOVE to be proved wrong. And yes... The S54 has nothing except expensive parts compared to a S52 or a Euro S52. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi Treehouse Racing www.treehouseracing.com ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: [E36M3] Replacement engines > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:52:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Replacement engines > > Why bother? The S54 doesn't have much over the SB52 and I'd be afraid of > reliability issues as I don't think the S54s are completely sorted out. Also, > there would be issues like drive by wire, etc. And finally, cost...For $6500, > you can get a whole 3.2L euro evo engine. > > Chester > > --- Michael Stembera <m_stembera@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Speaking of replacing motors... Has anyone tried fitting an E46M3 motor > > into an E36M3 ? How much would that add up to? > > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Replacement engines - from twisty M3
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:53:24 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replacement engines hehe! Exactly what was going through my head right now. Not that I can or would do it, but it does sound fun. Jonathan L. >From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> > >what? $6500? Really? > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Replacement engines - from twisty M3
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:55:43 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Replacement engines Pretty sure you'd need to buy the entire engine, but this makes me wonder too... Even though these cars are out of production, is it still possible to get the engines new from the factory? Jonathan L. >From: "Michael Michalski" <mmichalski@leaselink.com> > >That doesn't sound like a bad idea. How would I go about acquiring a 3.2L >Euro Evo engine?? Can I turn my existing engine into a Euro Evo or do you >have to buy the entire engine? > >Mike >97 ///M3 >Windy City Chapter > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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#5. Thought you guys might enjoy this. - from Michael Michalski
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:45:53 -0500 From: "Michael Michalski" <mmichalski@leaselink.com> Subject: Thought you guys might enjoy this. >Subject: Ole and Lena: > > > > > > Vun day, Sven vas valking down da street ven who did he see driving a = > > brand new BMW M3? It vas Ole. Ole pulled up to him vit a vide smile. > > > > "Ole, vere did you get dat car?" Sven asked > > > > "Lena gave it to me" > > > > "She gave it to you? I knew she vas sveet on you, but dis?" > > > > "Vell, let me tell you vat happened. Ve vere driving out on county road > > = > > 6, in da middle of novere. Lena pulled off da road into da woods. She >= > > parked, > > got out of da car, trew off all of her clothes and said "Ole take = > > vatever you vant."...So I took da car" > > > > "Ole, your a smart man, dem clothes never voulda fit ya." Mike 97 ///M3 Windy City Chapter
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#6. Re: [E36M3] RE: tire temp mystery - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:46:56 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: tire temp mystery "BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <bill_boom@hp.com> wrote: > > > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > > > > On E-36 M3s, the left rear tire temps at most tracks will be > > the hottest. Main reason, when you are driving an M3 hard, > > usually means power on from turn in to track out, which > > transfers alot of weight to the rear and alot of torque is > > trying to go thru those wheels, which results in alot of heat. > > That doesn't explain why the *left* rear tire is hotter. On a CCW track, > the right-side tires are working harder. Bill, First of all, the pyrometer primarily measures what happened to that tire at the last few turns before you came to a stop. Do you actually get more inside LR tire wear? If not, ignore your pyrometer readings. A few things could be happening to the inside rear tire. One: when acceleration out of a corner it will try to rotate quicker than the outside tire. Without LSD you would get inside rear wheel spin. LSD mitigates it to some extend. Some would argue 25% E36 LSD does a mediocre job of it thus praising the benefit of Quaiffe. Two: softly suspended cars have a tendency to lean a lot and lift inside tires during turns. As they lean, some very strange things happen to the tire camber which will result in uneven temperature/wear on the tire. Add the extra weight on the front wheels under braking into turns and the inside rear wheel may now be dragging in an awkward way. I don't know enough to predict the camber change of the rear inside tires on E36 cars, but this may well be part of the problem. Last, but not least least, is the muffler factor that has been well covered in the previous posts. > > From the looks of the temps, I would say you need more negative camber > > and less toe in, or some combination change of the two. > > Could you explain why? Apart from the pressures perhaps being a bit low, > all the tires except the LR have pretty even temps across the surface. > If anything, the temps on the LR indicate it needs less neg camber. Agreed. Extra negative camber on the LR tire will only exacerbate inside tire wear. > At any rate, here's a summary of the theories I've gathered to explain the > high temps on the inner LR: > > 1) Simply too much neg camber on the LR for that track. What are you camber/toe settings? > 2) Bad toe bushing on LR corner - suspension not doing what it's supposed > to. When was the last time you were on an allignment rack? > 3) Proximity to exhaust. Could also be exhaust rubbing on the inside of the tire if the exhaust brackets/donuts are old and the car is lowered much. > This was scoffed at by the guy who gave me theory > (1), but I don't think it's that farfetched as I was using an IR pyrometer, > which I imagine is more affected by the surrounding air than a probe-type. Absolutely. I would discard the pyrometer readings on that account alone. > Plus the car had been sitting for probably a minute by the time I got out, > grabbed the pyrometer and notebook, and got around to the LR tire - plenty > of time for exhaust heat to radiate to the tire. Bill, Your pyrometer readings are junk. 1 minute is way too long for the side-to-side tire temperatures to have equalized. That also explains your near perfect readings at the other 3 wheels. End of mystery. alex f
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#7. "what" for Mel S - from TFRM3@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:02:06 EDT From: TFRM3@aol.com Subject: "what" for Mel S Measure between the inside edge of the tire and the adjacent edge of the strut housing. This can be done with the car in the air, the relationship doesn't change. I use a series of sockets as feeler guages. Jay
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#8. Window Motor Replacement - from Tobin Finley
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:22:19 -0400 From: Tobin Finley <tfinley@fdt.net> Subject: Window Motor Replacement -- My driver's side window motor is becoming weak and needs to be replaced. Is this a potential do-it-yourself job? Has anyone done this and can give me some pointers? Thanks, Tobin '95 M3
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Need Info. on Incredible M Steering Wheel - from Andrew Burback
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 16:21:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Andrew Burback <andrewb200@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need Info. on Incredible M Steering Wheel Try this... http://www.motorsportimports.com/e30m3-interior.html#a2 -Andrew --- Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 11:13:30 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need Info. on Incredible M > Steering Wheel > > I remember reading that the "cecotto" and "ravaglia" > edition E30 M3's in europe had special suede > steering > wheels. > > Don't have a p/n, tho'. > > > mmm.... suede.... > > --- Michael Maigret x2196 > <studmuffin@galaxy.nsc.com> > wrote: > > Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 10:59:02 -0700 (PDT) > > From: "Michael Maigret x2196" > > <studmuffin@galaxy.nsc.com> > > Subject: Need Info. on Incredible M Steering Wheel > > > > Hi all, > > > > I saw an amazing steering wheel on a very clean > > black E30 M3 at the Golden Gate BMWCCA Sear's > > Point driver school this past Tuesday. It looked > > like an M3 GT (Euro) wheel, but the rim was done > > in suede and it had the ///M emblem on the lower > > vertical spoke. It was truly a work of art. Is > > there a part number for this wheel, or was it > custom > > work? I really want to know. > > > > Thanks for any details. > > > > Michael Maigret > > BMWCCA #277854 > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > > from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > > list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > > requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed > as > > the > > subject of the message to the email address > > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > > ************************************************************* > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Sign up for SBC Yahoo! Dial - First Month Free http://sbc.yahoo.com
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Turbos (was aw geez.) - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 18:56:20 -0500 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Turbos (was aw geez.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Turbos (was aw geez.) > Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 22:12:37 -0400 > From: "Michael" <95m3ltw@charter.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Turbos (was aw geez.) > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> > >However, for every unhappy Mechtech customer, there seem to be > > several ecstatic AA customers. I think there's no question that AA has > > really done their homework, and easily provides the best solution of the > > type > > Not to argue, as you own a induction car, but there is no-one that makes a > well designed kit for the M3, AA included. Dinan is probably the best > supercharged kit out there, but leaves alot to be desired. My test for a > kit would be the ability to survive several track days a year. Nobody > makes one yet. I have yet to attend a school where a > Supercharged/turbocharged car made it all weekend. I have 5 track days and an auto-x on my turbo M3 this year. 10 track days last year, and 6 the year before that. All under boost, with only 1 problem (blown intake bellows during the last session of my first open track day with the turbo). But, to prove your point, my kit resembles what Mechtech actually shipped only in the piping and turbo. I've fabricated my own intake, relocated the MAF, and threw out their fuel enrichment scheme. And eventually, I'll put probably put a larger intercooler on. The Dinan supercharger cars which come out do seem to require less care and feeding on the part of their owners. > Having known several M3 owners who have had everything out there, in their > own words, they would NEVER do it again. Put me in the "I'm not sure, but if I did I'd budget more money" column.