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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in - from JUSTIN GERRY
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:59:15 -0400 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWscatalog?? This person looked at this on their ETK, and the applications listed included the M3. He also wrote that he mounting hardware uses rivet nuts, which might have it attach to the X-brace location points. Not sure. Let me know what you find out. -Justin >>> Rich Beebe <rich@beebecomm.com> 08/14 12:43 PM >>> i'm not sure if the part number is right (i might check on it later) but the LTWs came with an aluminum tray, with plastic uprights riveted on, that he might be referring to. the LTW tray is a bit shorter to clear the splitter, as it sits above it towards the front. i don't think this would be a good option on an M3 though, as it's probably not as sturdy as the plastic one even. made to be light. rich 95 M3 95 LTW > From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > Reply-To: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:11:50 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs catalog?? > > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:01:06 -0400 > From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > Subject: E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs catalog?? > > There has been a small thread on the UUC digest about the possibility of > a BMW undertray that is metal. > > 51 71 8 209 093 Front Aggregate Protection Plate > > Can anyone confirm/deny/figure out if this is a metal replacment for > our plastic undertray on either/or on the E36 M3 2 or 4 door? > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > '76 02 (Whimsical) > '97 M3 (Orion) > BMW CCA#77056 > check out http://users.vei.net/jgerry
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#2. E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs catalog?? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:34:22 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs catalog?? Here is my post to the UUC Digest on the matter > > 51 71 8 209 093 Front Aggregate Protection Plate I said > > By the > simplistic look on the ETK and the part's use, I > doubt it works on the Coupe David says >>> >>> The "Parts Use" function on my ETK indicates that >>> this part fits all engine combinations of the >>> Compact, Coupe, and Sedan; including the M3. Hmm...maybe I am not doing something right but this is what I get for the 'Parts Use' for the M3: 3'E36 Limousine M3 ECE 51_2218 FRONT AGGREGATE PROTECTIVE PLATE 1 3'E36 Limousine M3 3.2 USA 51_2218 FRONT AGGREGATE PROTECTIVE PLATE 1 3'E36 Limousine M3 3.2 ECE 51_2218 FRONT AGGREGATE PROTECTIVE PLATE 1 (I purposely left out all of the other E36 applications since we were talking about the M3 specifically) That being said, I still have my doubts whether it works with the M3 Coupe since it is not listed in the 'Parts Use'. There are Compacts and Coupes listed for other E36s (along with the Limousine and Tourings), but not the M3 Coupe. I am not saying that this is gospel, the ETK could be wrong. I am just saying that it doesn't reflect it as a part for the M3 Coupe. From the diagram, it is not clear where it mounts. If it mounts under the cross reinforcement (X brace), then I am not sure why it wouldn't work. If it mounts where the undertray is, the M3 Coupe's undertray is shaped different (there is a spoiler that protrudes down below into the air stream) than all the other applications listed and I can understand why it wouldn't work for this application. YMMV. Regards, Rich > -------------------- 5 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:01:06 -0400 > From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > Subject: E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs catalog?? > > There has been a small thread on the UUC digest about the > possibility of > a BMW undertray that is metal. > > 51 71 8 209 093 Front Aggregate Protection Plate > > Can anyone confirm/deny/figure out if this is a metal replacment for > our plastic undertray on either/or on the E36 M3 2 or 4 door? > > Thanks, > Justin > > -- > '76 02 (Whimsical) > '97 M3 (Orion) > BMW CCA#77056 > check out http://users.vei.net/jgerry
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#3. metal undertray - LTW? - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:53:14 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: metal undertray - LTW? I was picking up my valve cover gasket at the local dealer, talking shop with my technician buddy. He did mention that BMW made a reinforced under carriage plate, he thought maybe for the LTW. That should be easy enough for the folks on the list to confirm. He said have the parts guy look it up under the LTW first, but it probably costs a bundle. Might be the part number you guys are talking about. So no confirmation, just more rumors... Jonathan 95 M3 no plastic shroud (ripped off two) no pork chops (ripped off three) no brake ducts (lost one a few days ago) front mesh grill held on with zip ties (cracking repainted bumper paint) Does anyone have a driver's side brake duct for sale or donation??
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#4. Re: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in - from nabli@earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:00:29 -0400 From: <nabli@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in The ETK does not specify that part for M3 coupes but does show all other E36 coupes. It does however specify M3 sedans. I don't see how it connects to or over the x-brace but the diagram is not that good. It is a current part number and should cost somewhere around $80 give or take a few $$$. Cheers, Jim E. ----- Original Message ----- From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:59:15 -0400 > From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in > BMWscatalog?? > > This person looked at this on their ETK, and the applications listed > included the M3. > > He also wrote that he mounting hardware uses rivet nuts, which might > have it attach to the X-brace location points. Not sure. > > Let me know what you find out. > > -Justin > > >>> Rich Beebe <rich@beebecomm.com> 08/14 12:43 PM >>> > i'm not sure if the part number is right (i might check on > it later) but the LTWs came with an aluminum tray, with plastic > uprights riveted on, that he might be referring to. the LTW > tray is a bit shorter to clear the splitter, as it sits above > it towards the front. i don't think this would be a good option > on an M3 though, as it's probably not as sturdy as the plastic > one even. made to be light. > > rich > 95 M3 > 95 LTW > > > From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > > Reply-To: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:11:50 -0500 > > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Subject: [E36M3] E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs > catalog?? > > > > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:01:06 -0400 > > From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> > > Subject: E36 Undertray... Might there be a metal one in BMWs > catalog?? > > > > There has been a small thread on the UUC digest about the possibility > of > > a BMW undertray that is metal. > > > > 51 71 8 209 093 Front Aggregate Protection Plate > > > > Can anyone confirm/deny/figure out if this is a metal replacment for > > our plastic undertray on either/or on the E36 M3 2 or 4 door? > > > > Thanks, > > Justin > > > > -- > > '76 02 (Whimsical) > > '97 M3 (Orion) > > BMW CCA#77056 > > check out http://users.vei.net/jgerry > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#5. Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Loctite on the oil pump nut Does anyone know if loctite will hold in the extreme environment of an engine? Thinking of dropping the pan to check the oil pump nut and was wondering if the extreme heat and oil would render the loctite useless... TIA, Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 12:16:26 -0700 From: "Bob Lenarcik" <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut Chester, According to the instructions I got from Korman for the LTW oil pan I bought from them: (in bold font) "Install left hand thread nut with red loc-tite." There is also another reference to red loc-tite on the bolts used to connect the pick up tubes to the pump itself, so I assume that red loc-tite should hold up under those conditions. I also assume my mechanic followed the instructions, but I have not had any reason to doubt his work. I've driven about 20k miles with the LTW pan in place and no issues so far. - Bob -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:52 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Loctite on the oil pump nut Does anyone know if loctite will hold in the extreme environment of an engine? Thinking of dropping the pan to check the oil pump nut and was wondering if the extreme heat and oil would render the loctite useless... TIA, Chester
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Ben Liaw - Rogue Engineering
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:28:46 -0400 From: "Ben Liaw - Rogue Engineering" <ben@rogueengineering.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut If you use Loctite 262 Permanent strength, it'll hold for sure. At least after 5000 hours of testing, according to Loctite. http://www.loctite.com/datasheets/tds/Product_262.pdf Regards, Ben Liaw Rogue Engineering . 201.444.8150 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Loctite on the oil pump nut > > Does anyone know if loctite will hold in the extreme environment of an engine? > Thinking of dropping the pan to check the oil pump nut and was wondering if the > extreme heat and oil would render the loctite useless... > > TIA, > Chester > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#8. Re:shark injector - from Ticalian57@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:32:24 EDT From: Ticalian57@aol.com Subject: Re:shark injector does any one know if you need to keep a battery connected to the cars while down loading the software or will the stored up battery power be good enough
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut - from nabli@earthlink.net
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:50:00 -0400 From: <nabli@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut Chester, You need to use loctite #272 for your application. It is a high temp/high strength application with a temp range of up to ~400 degrees F and it's also impervious to oil. See: http://www.loctite.com/datasheets/tds/Product_272.pdf Cheers, Jim E. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:51 PM Subject: [E36M3] Loctite on the oil pump nut > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Loctite on the oil pump nut > > Does anyone know if loctite will hold in the extreme environment of an engine? > Thinking of dropping the pan to check the oil pump nut and was wondering if the > extreme heat and oil would render the loctite useless... > > TIA, > Chester > > ===== > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:06:15 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector Read and follow the instructions exactly. The instructions call for attaching a stable power supply (ie. battery charger) to the battery to prevent voltage fluctuations to the car which may cause the upload/download to fail and leave the ECU in a confused state. I highly recommend doing what they say. Attached my Sears charger and all went smoothly. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. -----Original Message----- From: Ticalian57@aol.com [mailto:Ticalian57@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:42 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re:shark injector Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:32:24 EDT From: Ticalian57@aol.com Subject: Re:shark injector does any one know if you need to keep a battery connected to the cars while down loading the software or will the stored up battery power be good enough ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************