E36M3 #2518

Wednesday, August 14, 2002 17:02:41

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#1. Re: [E36M3] metal undertray - LTW? - from Dave Kelley
#2. RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector - from twisty M3
#3. Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Kris Welhart
#4. Las Vegas - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Chester Wong
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Jim Bassett
#7. RE: [E36M3] Las Vegas - from Bob Lenarcik
#8. [E36M3] Detailing info - from Low, Roan
#9. RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector - from Mike Frank
#10. Re: [E36M3] Detailing info - from David Bauer
#11. RE: [E36M3] Detailing info - from David Ngo
#12. Re: [E36M3] Detailing info - from Robert Chay

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#1. Re: [E36M3] metal undertray - LTW? - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:46:22 -0400 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] metal undertray - LTW? Folks, if you want the metal underpanel, just get the one from JTD. Don't even waste your time trying to get one from BMW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:53:14 -0400 > From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> > Subject: metal undertray - LTW? > > I was picking up my valve cover gasket at the local dealer, talking shop > with my technician buddy. He did mention that BMW made a reinforced under > carriage plate, he thought maybe for the LTW. That should be easy enough > for the folks on the list to confirm. He said have the parts guy look it up > under the LTW first, but it probably costs a bundle. Might be the part > number you guys are talking about. > > So no confirmation, just more rumors... > > Jonathan > 95 M3 > > no plastic shroud (ripped off two) > no pork chops (ripped off three) > no brake ducts (lost one a few days ago) > front mesh grill held on with zip ties (cracking repainted bumper paint) > > Does anyone have a driver's side brake duct for sale or donation?? > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > > >

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 13:56:23 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector Agreed! Why risk having your car disabled and needing to send you DME in? Doesn't sound fun to me. A battery charger is a relatively inexpensive thing to pick up (got mine at Sears) and could come in handy in the future anyway. If you don't have one, and don't want to buy one, but live in SoCal, you're welcome to borrow mine if you're within a respectable distance of Ventura (or going to Fontana this weekend). Jonathan L. >From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> > >Read and follow the instructions exactly. > >The instructions call for attaching a stable power supply (ie. battery >charger) to the battery to prevent voltage fluctuations to the car which >may >cause the upload/download to fail and leave the ECU in a confused state. > >I highly recommend doing what they say. Attached my Sears charger and all >went smoothly. > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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#3. Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Kris Welhart
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 15:56:44 -0500 From: "Kris Welhart" <kris.welhart@cyou.com> Subject: Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut I also have concerns on this subject and I am going to pull my oil pan = in the near future to make sure all is well, but I would like to get = some more feedback on the level of concern that should be placed on this = matter. Is this problem alive and well, or is this a few and far between = issue that is caused by some other common factor such as an underdrive = pulley?My gut feeling is the latter, but if I am incorrect, I would love = to be corrected. If your oil pump nut has removed itself, I would like = to know about it, as would others I am sure. I have talked about this = with locals and they have heard nothing, except that they agree the = design of the oil pump could be improved. I would also like to know if = there is another way of keeping the nut attached to its home. I remember = something about safety wire, anyone done anything they would like to = brag about? I don't want to have to pull the pan everytime I bounce off = the rev limiter or spin. Just covering all the bases and collecting .02 = in order to try to save 500,000 cents. Happy motoring, Kris=20 -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 11:49:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Loctite on the oil pump nut Does anyone know if loctite will hold in the extreme environment of an = engine?=20 Thinking of dropping the pan to check the oil pump nut and was wondering = if the extreme heat and oil would render the loctite useless... TIA, Chester =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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#4. Las Vegas - from shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:57:42 -0500 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Las Vegas >1993 325is #44 KP - didn't survive Las Vegas :-( Jim, Enquiring minds want to know. What happened? Everything Ok? Shane K. '96 m3 '94 325i #335 KP This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited.

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:11:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut This is an issue....not necessarily from hitting the revlimiter, but we just had a fellow lister have his engine go because of it. Underdrive pulleys do not in anyway affect the oil pump nut. The underdrive pulleys work on the accessories (whether it be crank mounted UDP or accesory mounted UDPs). The oil pump is driven off of a chain from within the engine. The real question is if the oil pump nut was torqued correctly at the factory or not. Some have suggested that spinning the car turns the engine backwards and this would be a cause. Dunno...but I'll be seeing how difficult it is to get at the oil pump to check. About safety wiring it, I don't know about you, but I for sure will not be drilling a hole anywhere.. Red loctite 272 seems to be the ticket. Chester --- Kris Welhart <kris.welhart@cyou.com> wrote: > matter. Is this problem alive and well, or is this a few and far between = > issue that is caused by some other common factor such as an underdrive = > pulley?My gut feeling is the latter, but if I am incorrect, I would love = > to be corrected. If your oil pump nut has removed itself, I would like = > to know about it, as would others I am sure. I have talked about this = > with locals and they have heard nothing, except that they agree the = > design of the oil pump could be improved. I would also like to know if = > there is another way of keeping the nut attached to its home. I remember = > something about safety wire, anyone done anything they would like to = > brag about? I don't want to have to pull the pan everytime I bounce off = > the rev limiter or spin. Just covering all the bases and collecting .02 = > in order to try to save 500,000 cents. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:18:32 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Loctite on the oil pump nut At 02:01 PM 8/14/02, Kris Welhart wrote: >If your oil pump nut has removed itself, I would like = >to know about it, as would others I am sure. <Raising hand> Happened this past weekend on the race car (1993 325is). Motor was (is?) stock, except for cams. No underdrive pulleys. The motor was overrevved last Nov, which may have contributed to the loosening of the nut <shrug>. I personally know of 2 other cars that this has happened to - an E46 330 race car, and an E46 330 street/track car. If you do (did?) none of the following, this may not be too big of a deal. If ANY of these apply, check your nut <g>: - Track and/or race the car. - Car has been overreved. - Motor has been spun backwards (i.e. spun the car and failed to put the clutch in). BMW CCA Club Racing deemed this serious enough to issue a tech bulletin on this. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 KP - in the process of being rebuilt

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Las Vegas - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 14:28:35 -0700 From: "Bob Lenarcik" <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Las Vegas Whaaaat??? Jim - are *you* OK? - Bob (original owner of #44) -----Original Message----- From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com [mailto:shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:12 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Las Vegas Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 10:57:42 -0500 From: shane.a.kleinpeter@accenture.com Subject: Las Vegas >1993 325is #44 KP - didn't survive Las Vegas :-( Jim, Enquiring minds want to know. What happened? Everything Ok? Shane K. '96 m3 '94 325i #335 KP This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received it in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original. Any other use of the email by you is prohibited. ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#8. [E36M3]  Detailing info - from Low, Roan
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:35:33 -0500 From: "Low, Roan" <Roan_Low@Keebler.com> Subject: [E36M3] Detailing info Gruppe, I'm looking for a resource or two on car detailing, perhaps a web site or even a book that I can buy? Recommendations for good mail order/internet retailers would also be appreciated. On a seperate not, any recommendations for a high quality snow-brush. Now that I live in the frozen tundra (compared to FL) of Chicago, I'm going to have to use one. Thanks, Roan.

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector - from Mike Frank
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:48:24 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re:shark injector I sure hope there is "some" difference. I paid an extra $150 plus shipping for the "updated CAI software" when I bought my Conforti intake (was already sharked - back in the day when you had to pull the DME). Does anyone know if you can get an injector for less then $400 if you already paid $400 + 150 for the software. I asked when they first came out and I was told no. The reasoning was literally "something to do with who they sourced the hardware from" - very vague. Mike Frank 97 M3 > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 06:05:05 -0700 > From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@cdsnet.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Re:shark injector > > > > >Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2002 14:50:51 EDT > >From: Ticalian57@aol.com > >Subject: Re:shark injector > > > > > >i just order a injector for my 99 M3 but i dont have a CAI > but i plann > >on > >getting on a little father down the road does anyone know if > the software > has > >to be changed to run with a CAI system ???? not sure whether to > >inject her > >yet but the CAI could be a while down the road i not to sure > how soon it > >could be > > > I called Josh @ Eurosport with the same question. He said > the injector is the same. There is no difference with or > without CAI. Jay

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#10. Re: [E36M3]  Detailing info - from David Bauer
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:53:02 -0500 From: David Bauer <dbauer@blkbox.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Detailing info Roan, Try www.carcareonline.com. I get all my stuff there and they have some good articles. Dave 95 M3 Low, Roan wrote: > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:35:33 -0500 > From: "Low, Roan" <Roan_Low@Keebler.com> > Subject: [E36M3] Detailing info > > Gruppe, > > I'm looking for a resource or two on car detailing, perhaps a web site or > even a book that I can buy? Recommendations for good mail order/internet > retailers would also be appreciated. > > On a seperate not, any recommendations for a high quality snow-brush. Now > that I live in the frozen tundra (compared to FL) of Chicago, I'm going to > have to use one. > > Thanks, > Roan.

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#11. RE: [E36M3]  Detailing info - from David Ngo
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:55:17 -0400 From: David Ngo <dngo@commvault.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Detailing info My favorite detailing web site is http://www.autopia-carport.com Plenty of info on the forums and good articles too. Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Low, Roan [mailto:Roan_Low@Keebler.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:42 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Detailing info > > Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 16:35:33 -0500 > From: "Low, Roan" <Roan_Low@Keebler.com> > Subject: [E36M3] Detailing info > > Gruppe, > > I'm looking for a resource or two on car detailing, perhaps a web site or > even a book that I can buy? Recommendations for good mail order/internet > retailers would also be appreciated. > > On a seperate not, any recommendations for a high quality snow-brush. Now > that I live in the frozen tundra (compared to FL) of Chicago, I'm going to > have to use one. > > Thanks, > Roan. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* >

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#12. Re: [E36M3]  Detailing info - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:55:45 -0400 From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Detailing info http://www.carcareonline.com They have tips too! -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Low, Roan" <Roan_Low@Keebler.com> > > Gruppe, > > I'm looking for a resource or two on car detailing, perhaps a web site or > even a book that I can buy? Recommendations for good mail order/internet > retailers would also be appreciated. > > On a seperate not, any recommendations for a high quality snow-brush. Now > that I live in the frozen tundra (compared to FL) of Chicago, I'm going to > have to use one. > > Thanks, > Roan. >

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