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#1. RE: [E36M3] Las Vegas - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:01:29 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Las Vegas haha! I know what you mean! I think I'm just a cage and fire extinguisher away from HS. Heck, I even have a friend offering to build me a completely (and easily) removeable cage with my only expense being parts. NOOOOOO!!!!!!! Next year... Maybe? ;) In all seriousness, sorry about the car. That really does suck (for lack of a better term). Jonathan L. >From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > >1998 M3/4 - could become an HS racer very easily (nonononono! See what I >mean?) > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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#2. Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 14:07:05 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... on 8/15/02 11:51 AM, <ajoseph1981@earthlink.net> wrote: > I am curious to know the ACTUAL oil pressure readings from people that have > an oil pressure gauge plumbed in. > > My concerns stem from this: I recently added a VDO oil pressure gauge and > here are the readings I've gotten the last couple of months...at low idle > and oil temp ~190 degF the pressure is 10-12psi. At 3K rpm and ~190 degF > oil temp the pressure is high 40's to low 50's psi...Funky sender, air > trapped in the JTD distribution block I added, something more sinister? You've omitted an important piece of information: which VDO gauge? For instance the BMP gauge kit comes with a useless 150 psi gauge (ask me how I know...) Since the E36 oil pump has a pop-off valve set to a nominal 4 bar (58-59 psi) max, that means a 150 psi gauge spends all its time operating in the lower 40% of its range, so it's not very accurate and not very easy to read. On my 80 psi scale gauge I see hot idle oil pressure under 20 psi, but at any kind of working rpm I have the full 58-59 psi. This is with 15W-50 oil in summer or 5W-30 winter. If you genuinely/accurately have only 40-50 psi hot then there's a problem. First try a new pressure sender and make sure the wiring is good. Neil 96 M3
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#3. Re: [E36M3] popping out of gear - from Reid Conti
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:08:18 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] popping out of gear Yeah, the shifter thing is weird. The second time when it happened, my hand was resting, but probably putting next to zero forward pressure on it.. here's my theory: Because the gears are turning, any light pressure you put on the shifter (ie, not enough to push it out of the gate) is enough to get it HEADING in that direction.. and as the gears are moving, they "walk" themselves out. All it takes is a gentle nudge to move the gears from "we're happy here" to "we're starting to move apart" .. because I know I sure didn't put nearly enough pressure on the shifter to shift out under normal conditions.. but maybe under stress it's enough. This has only happened when going WFO.. at least for me. Then the shifter "jumps" out of gear. - reid > Oh.. that reminds me.. my hand was sometimes also on > the shifter when it popped out. Maybe the clutch > thing was a red herring. It certainly makes more > sense for it to be the shifter, especially with the > weak tranny mounts that our cars have. > -Matt
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:24:37 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... At 12:11 PM 8/15/02, Neil Maller wrote: >For instance the BMP gauge kit comes with a useless 150 psi gauge (ask me >how I know...) Oh crap - mine's on it's way here (yeah, a little late, shut up :-)) So, does VDO make less-useless gauge? Jim Bassett
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#5. popping out of gear - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:33:14 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: popping out of gear reid wrote: "This has happened to me < snip > I don't make it a habit to rest my hand on the shifter < snip > was this the case for you? Or was your hand off the shifter entirely? - This has happened to me twice on my 99 as well, generally upr-mid rpm range turning right - at apex - adding throttle (hand on shifter). I don't place my hand on the shifter except to shift and I added jt-d STN rings which have made the shift linkage (almost) _scary_ rock-solid (is there any harm in a rock solid shift mechanism??). Kim L Burgess
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#6. Re: [E36M3] popping out of gear - from Josh
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 12:45:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Josh <g_force_alt@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] popping out of gear > Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 10:21:01 -0700 > From: Scott McClung <scott.mcclung@ubicom.com> > Subject: popping out of gear > > > My '98 M3/4 has done this twice now. At near the > top > of 2nd gear (manual trans) - say around 6K rpm and > at > full throttle - it has popped out of gear, or feels > like that is what happened. Popping out of gear can be caused by bent or worn shifter forks. They can be bent pretty easily, for example, when you miss clutch while shifting gears. Also remember it only takes one miss clutch to bend the fork. I wouldn't expect worn shifter forks, unless you've crested the 100k mile mark or have run the tranny low on fluid. In either case, new shifter forks necessitate dissassembly of the tranny ($$$). Josh '72 tii '98 M3 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] popping out of gear - from HYPERM3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:13:42 EDT From: HYPERM3@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] popping out of gear There are times when my car is nicely warmed up after a spirited romp and I cant get into reverse. No matter if I put all my pressure onto the knob forcing it into gear and letting out the clutch it still isn't in. Sometimes when it does go in, halfway through the backing up process is a loud embarrassing bang when it pops out. Highly discouraging. Alex "HyperM3" Demsky 97 S/C M3
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#8. Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:30:17 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... on 8/15/02 2:24 PM, Jim Bassett at jimbassett@attbi.com wrote: > At 12:11 PM 8/15/02, Neil Maller wrote: >> For instance the BMP gauge kit comes with a useless 150 psi gauge (ask me >> how I know...) > > Oh crap - mine's on it's way here (yeah, a little late, shut up :-)) > So, does VDO make less-useless gauge? > Jim Bassett Yep, there's a perfectly good matching 80 psi VDO unit, which is why it's so hard to understand why BMP supplies a 150 in the kit. BTW, a much better idea than buying this from BMP is to get it from ECIS. Not only does theirs come with the 80 psi gauge, but they have a wiring harness too, which would save a whole bunch of work. Neil 96 M3
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... - from Mel Silva
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:53:55 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... Hey Neil, I'm not "calling you a liar", but... the ECIS website shows a 150psi gauge in their kit. Note that I said "shows" and not "calls out in a detailed description". Because their is no detailed description. Just FYI Mel -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 4:32 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 16:30:17 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... on 8/15/02 2:24 PM, Jim Bassett at jimbassett@attbi.com wrote: > At 12:11 PM 8/15/02, Neil Maller wrote: >> For instance the BMP gauge kit comes with a useless 150 psi gauge (ask me >> how I know...) > > Oh crap - mine's on it's way here (yeah, a little late, shut up :-)) > So, does VDO make less-useless gauge? > Jim Bassett Yep, there's a perfectly good matching 80 psi VDO unit, which is why it's so hard to understand why BMP supplies a 150 in the kit. BTW, a much better idea than buying this from BMP is to get it from ECIS. Not only does theirs come with the 80 psi gauge, but they have a wiring harness too, which would save a whole bunch of work. Neil 96 M3 ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#10. Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 17:23:29 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: While the oil pump subject is on the table... on 8/15/02 4:53 PM, Mel Silva at melsilva@mindspring.com wrote: > Hey Neil, > I'm not "calling you a liar" Mel, But I am a liar, and you can believe me on that! > but... the ECIS website shows a 150psi gauge > in their kit. Note that I said "shows" and not "calls out in a detailed > description". Because their is no detailed description. Just FYI I bought my kit from BMP before ECIS existed, but someone had told me that they got the 80 psi version from ECIS. But maybe that info was wrong? If doing it again I'd still suggest buy from ECIS just to get the wiring harness. But it's still beyond me why anyone would supply a 150 psi gauge. Neil 96 M3
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#11. Fan Shroud removal/installation - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2002 18:35:25 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Fan Shroud removal/installation I dropped something today down behind there, and needed to remove the black plastic fan shroud...I removed the 4 phillips screws I had access to, and the plastic body expander rivet...I expected it to just lift off at that point, but naturally, No Way...Moreover, I couldnt for the life of me figure out what was holding it...I was able to force up part of the front of it, but that was all...Even that portion I was able to lift really made a loud snapping nose as each attachement either was lifted, or broken . Bottom line is I forced too much, and cracked it..I just put all the screws and expansion rivet back ...The crack wont hurt any function, but I want to buy a new one cause I dont like to keep the broken one...But first, I want to hear from one of you guys how this thing is attached, and removed. thanks. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; < 45K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Water Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio