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#1. Re: Independent Service advice in Herndon/McLean VA area - from David Ripton
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 18:04:18 -0400 From: David Ripton <dripton@ripton.net> Subject: Re: Independent Service advice in Herndon/McLean VA area > My son Darren finally got a real job and is moving to Herndon VA and will be > working in McLean. > > We've both depended heavily on Phoenix Imports in East Rochester for supurb > service over the years and he is looking for a new high quality service > facility for his 325is. Curry's is good. They're in Chantilly and Ashburn, both very close to Herndon. > Also recommendations on tracks would be appreciated. Summit Point is nearby, a bit over an hour west from Herndon, just over the WV border. That's where the NCC driving schools are held. (They fill up.) VIR is about as far as you can go and still be in Virginia. Maybe a 5 hour drive. > I assume that the BMW CCA chapter is the National Capital? Yes. -- David Ripton dripton@ripton.net
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#2. Since we're on the subject of tire rubbing... - from Bob Lenarcik
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 20:10:35 -0700 From: Bob Lenarcik <lenarcik@pacbell.net> Subject: Since we're on the subject of tire rubbing... Just got a new set of tires and what do you know, they rub on the front suspension (H&R c/o) even with a 5mm spacer. 8mm seems about right, but I think the H&R 10mm spacers would be a better solution since they have their own lip. Does anyone know of a SF Bay Area retailer that carries H&R spacers? Thanks in advance. - Bob '97 M3/2 P.S. And no, they are not S-03s.
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#3. Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from Jeff Thompson
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:45:03 -0400 From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> Subject: Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail I'm glad that you're unhurt except for your ego, but no wonder my insurance is so high. the fact that anybody (nothing personal, Wayne) could claim this to their insurance is mind-boggling. "I went to drive my car as fast as I could, and crashed. Please pay me." somehow it works on a track at a driver's school, but if I did it on a public road I'd be ticketed 37 times and insurance wouldn't pay me anything. Try this: If you can't afford to total it and walk away, you can't afford to put it on a track. Asbestos on, -jeff >From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> >Now I am sure that you are all wondering about a few things like what >happened with insurance, what about the parts on my highly modified car >and what do I plan on doing now? First, the insurance worked out fine. >The check is in the mail for the full fair market value of the car.
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from donna seeley
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 21:05:02 -0700 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail Jeff, Does that mean you don't buy collision coverage to pay for your own mistakes? Donna 88 M3 race car, liability only 89 325i, liability only ex-95 M3, big collision deductible 91 Dodge Ram, collision because theft coverage requires it On Saturday, August 24, 2002, at 08:53 PM, Jeff Thompson wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:45:03 -0400 > From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> > Subject: Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail > > > I'm glad that you're unhurt except for your ego, but no wonder my > insurance is so high. the fact that anybody (nothing personal, Wayne) > could claim this to their insurance is mind-boggling. > "I went to drive my car as fast as I could, and crashed. Please pay > me." somehow it works on a track at a driver's school, but if I did > it on a public road I'd be ticketed 37 times and insurance wouldn't pay > me anything. > > Try this: If you can't afford to total it and walk away, you can't > afford to put it on a track. > > Asbestos on, > -jeff > > >> From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> > >> Now I am sure that you are all wondering about a few things like what >> happened with insurance, what about the parts on my highly modified car >> and what do I plan on doing now? First, the insurance worked out fine. >> The check is in the mail for the full fair market value of the car. > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the > message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from Reid Conti
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:52:23 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail I get the feeling this is going to be the start of a very long thread. I had never really thought of it that way before. But you know what, I agree. It is a pretty interesting double standard. Driving schools encourage driving "on the edge" a hell of a lot more than street driving does (although it is a more controlled environment, at least). I'm not saying I'm complaining that insurance covers driver's school incidents.. maybe this just means you should take advantage of the fact that you're paying for it anyway, and go ahead and do some driving schools! :) It's 100% ok that Wayne (and others) claim this on their insurance, because (according to almost every insurance policy) this is allowed behavior.. Maybe what you should be doing is asking why insurance companies are ok with this, rather than why someone would make such a claim.. because no matter how you feel about it morally, if you did the same thing, you'd be claiming it on your insurance, too. Since I'm kind of on the fence, here is some food for thought for both sides: * Almost all insurance companies allow this. So I can't fault a driver for making a claim like this. Sure, maybe it was your fault that you rearended someone, but you're not gonna say "my bad, I'll cover this one" to your insurance company. * Those of us who do not track our cars are paying for coverage we're (basically) not using. Then again, we all probably pay for other coverage that doesn't apply to us as well. Maybe you won't use your towing coverage. Or you won't file a comprehensive claim for less than $1000 even though your deductible is $250. So it's not that ridiculous that we all pay for track coverage even if we don't use it. * So you driving much much closer to your (and your car)'s limits on the track. * If your insurance found out that you pushed your car to it's limits on the street and wrecked, they'd probably refuse to pay, calling it reckless.. They allow higher limits on the track, I guess. * But it's a controlled environment at the track, at least.. * I wonder what the number of incidents per track miles are, compared with the number of incidents per road miles? * Even if the number of accidents per track mile are higher, maybe the on-track training makes us safer drivers on the street. * Maybe, indeed, this is why we're covered for driver training -- it improves your street skills as well as your track skills. Have fun with the argument! I'm gonna go to sleep :) - reid On Saturday, Aug 24, 2002, at 20:53 US/Pacific, Jeff Thompson wrote: > Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:45:03 -0400 > From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> > Subject: Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail > > > I'm glad that you're unhurt except for your ego, but no wonder my > insurance is so high. the fact that anybody (nothing personal, > Wayne) could claim this to their insurance is mind-boggling. > "I went to drive my car as fast as I could, and crashed. Please pay > me." somehow it works on a track at a driver's school, but if I did > it on a public road I'd be ticketed 37 times and insurance wouldn't > pay me anything. > > Try this: If you can't afford to total it and walk away, you can't > afford to put it on a track. > > Asbestos on, > -jeff
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#6. For SALE! - from Cesar Omar Torres
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:44:54 -0400 From: "Cesar Omar Torres" <cesar@cfl.rr.com> Subject: For SALE! Dear BMW Owners I have an original BMW WOODKIT Burl Wood 7 pieces (real wood); this is only for the two doors bmw e36, part number (82-11-1-469-575). Original invoice include. I paid for this 7 piece 750.72 at fields bmw in Orlando, FL. Instruction included. Also for sale Original BMW lighted (///M) 5 speed shift nub. For more info or pictures e-mail me at CESAR@CFL.RR.COM price for the wood kit is 400.00 and 85.00 for the nub. I accept Paypal, Personal check, cashier check or certified check. Thanks! Cesar Orlando, FL 1997 BMW M3 407-761-0750 cell 407-854-1419 work 407-281-0163 home
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 09:41:39 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail From all of Reid's comments, I believe that the comment that follows is why "open track" claims are not forbidden: * I wonder what the number of incidents per track miles are, compared with the number of incidents per road miles? I suspect that there are relatively few incidents/track mile and that claims from individuals that do not track drive their (cars) are more frequent. I am uncertain about whether the to substitute "M3s", "BMWs", or just "Sports Cars" for "cars" in the previous sentence. Just my suspicion that "enthusiast" who invest in upgrading their driving ability in addition to upgrading their vehicles tend to have fewer claimable incidents. I could be wrong of course, as Wayne said "there's a first time for everything". Mel
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#8. Mini Cooper S (a little OT) - from David Hogg
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 10:48:19 -0400 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: Mini Cooper S (a little OT) Sorry for the WOB, but I drove one of these yesterday and really liked it. The M3/4 parked next to the Mini looked like a limo! I'm 6'-3" and I was very comfortable in it even with the sunroof. The 2 sons (6 & 8 yrs) fit in back just fine - no worse than the M3 for foot and head room. It's no M3, but for $20K it's incredible. The spousal unit loved it, too. "Cute", "different", and "easy to drive" were the terms she used, and "would look great in the car pool line - and give the SUV ladies a heart attack!" Any wonder I married her? I like the whine of the little bitty supercharger. Where can I get on a Mini internet list to learn the insider scoop on these little machines? Dave Hogg (Mini would be a stable mate to the beloved M3)
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from donna seeley
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 08:18:34 -0700 From: donna seeley <dlseeley@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail My training has gotten me out of more accidents (several) than it's gotten me into (0). I admit to driving more... um, briskly... than I did before track schools, but even so, my skill set has grown so much I'm very rarely surprised on the street. Donna, off to autox a friend's '02 - woohoo! On Saturday, August 24, 2002, at 11:53 PM, Reid Conti wrote: > * Even if the number of accidents per track mile are higher, maybe the > on-track training makes us safer drivers on the street.
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#10. Re: Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from S Lafredo
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Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 11:34:04 -0400 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@fast.net> Subject: Re: Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail I found the few track events, autocross and drivering schools have actually slowed me down on the street. Not that I am a complete angle, but I have learned and come to respect how dangerous and unpredictable it is on the streets. On Sunday, August 25, 2002, at 02:53 AM, Reid Conti wrote: > * Maybe, indeed, this is why we're covered for driver training -- > it improves your street skills as well as your track skills.