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#1. Re: [E36M3] UUC Clutch Bushings - how to + noise? - from Robert Chay
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:59:36 -0400 From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] UUC Clutch Bushings - how to + noise? Hey! It adds character. <g> -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chester Wong" <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > It also looks better when the > door is open and all the pedals are aligned and you don't have this clutch > pedal tilted to the left. :) > > FWIW, > Chester >
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#2. Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:28:55 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail Jeff asks> > You give the same toy to two different kids, and the toy is both fun and > durable. One kid plays with it in a fairly normal way, and has a lot > of fun with it. The other kid uses the durable toy like a hammer to > break other toys, throws it down the stairs, and generally abuses it a > lot more. When the toys break (because they will eventually), > > 1. which kid are you more likely to give a new toy to? Really a pretty poor analogy but I will run with it. I have been to six driving schools and have only seen two accidents which resulted in physically damage covered under insurance premiums. The number of accidents to the number of participants was pretty low (less than 1%) so you can't really say that all 'kids' err.... driving school participants are like the kid using the tool as a hammer. Most driving school participants are very cautious in my opinion. Much more cautious and conscientious of their skills and the environment than on the street. I have gotten more physical body damage to my car on the street (stone chips, dings, etc.) than I have on the track (none since I tape the front of the car). > 2. If you were in the toy insurance business, and didn't have time to > observe every child with the toy, wouldn't it be a decent assumption > that these toys break a lot and you should charge a bit of money to > everybody who owns them? Sure, that is why if I was in the insurance industry, I would charge new drivers and elderly drivers more. Wait a minute, they already do that. If I could carve out the demographic that eats in there car while applying make-up and talking on their cell phone, I would charge them more too. > That's just my view of it. Obviously, I have nothing against people > who track their cars. I hope they stay safe and get all the fun they > want out of it. I just don't want to have to pay for it when somebody > takes out 30 feet of armco and needs $19k worth of work done to their car. Well then, I don't want to pay for it when the teenagers get their license, or when grandma backs into the storage van since she couldn't see behind her, or rush hour Linda wrecks her car as she spilled ketchup on her new blouse while talking to her mother on her cell phone after catching a glimpse of an accident on the other side of the road in her mirror as she was applying her blush. > As Reid pointed out, it really is a strange double standard. Maybe > there should be a middle ground where people who plan to attend schools > could carry an additional line of coverage that was specifically for > track incidents. It would be optional for those of us who don't track > our cars, and if we did we would be out of luck if we bent it up. With > the amount of money that some people spend for track time and related > stuff, some extra insurance money probably wouldn't stop them from doing > it. Great, give the insurance industry another trick to make more money. They would certainly prefer this over canceling people as there is no money to be made unless you collect premiums. Additional premiums are an insurance industry's friend. As an alternative, they would likely cancel coverage for DE events and still try to keep the insurer as their skill level improves and it translates to the street where they would be covered in the case of an accident. This is the best of both worlds for the insurance industry, no coverage for DE and improved drivers with higher skill levels. > Or, as Reid also mentioned, maybe I should just track my car since it is > covered. ;) Maybe you should. Have you ever? If you haven't, how did you come up with your opinions on the matter if you have never seen how a DE is run? Keep in mind, the number of insurance claims resulting from driving events is likely a pittance to the number of claims in the City of Los Angeles during one weekend. Later, Rich - Wouldn't bat an eye at filing for an insurance claim, that is why I pay my premiums. Oh wait, I shouldn't have the nice insurance company pay for the grocery cart into the side of my car or the rock that cracks my windshield. Oh, and I shouldn't have them pay for tree that falls on my car since I live in the woods and I should know that a tree could fall on it. Better yet, maybe I should just leave the car in the garage and take public transportation. PS - I feel safer at DE events than I do on the street driving my car.
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Rotor Tools. WTF? - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:32:49 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotor Tools. WTF? The first time I removed those 16mm bolts, I used a brand new Sears 16mm socket and 18" breaker bar. The bolts had never been loosened since the car left the factory. After some major pulling, I removed the bolts, but also cracked the socket! No penetrating oil was used. (I eat my Wheaties every day!) -rb >Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 12:59:39 -0700 >From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rotor Tools. WTF? > > > > > >Ooooh....someone needs to eat his Wheaties :) > > > >Nah... I ate a good breakfast this morning. ;) > > >might want to use some penetrating oil or something. Have you ever taken > >them > >off? Air tools certainly help...unless they were reinstalled with them > >...doh! > > > >I did try the penetrating oil, and all that did was get me high from the >fumes. They were changed last November, but have never been done by >hand... >they were tightened with an air tool last time. I think I may have to have >it done by my mechanic this time, and just ask him to hand tighten them so >I >can get them off again in a few weeks for the next track weekend. > >Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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#4. Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:47:29 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail Jeff says > > And it isn't a bad stretch, but I'm still not sure of it. I admit that > if you dropped a wheel off an onramp at 100+ mph, then a track school > would certainly help you, even though you shouldn't have been doing it > in the first place. Agreed but it might help. I don't feel that going 100+ mph on an onramp is appropriate behavior. More often than not, I would be most DE participants don't drive this way on the street. I would guess that there are certain other demographics that drive this way on the street. > However, you don't need a track school to learn > what to do when the idiot in the SUV in the lane next to you suddenly > pulls his head out of his ass, jams on his brakes and cuts across your > lane because he was too intent on his cell phone conversation and nearly > missed his exit. Sure you do, you learn how to see around you better to make evasive action and how you car reacts when it approaches its limits, where the limits are, how to threshold brake in a controlled manner, etc. > Learning more car control is never a bad thing, but > when I read the continual posts about adjustable suspensions, bigger > brakes, and sticky tires for the next "school" it makes me wonder. Don't let the comments about the adjustable suspensions and the sticky tires cloud your thinking. These comments are from really a select few of the DE participants as so many cars there are basically stock or next to it. Also, adjustable suspensions and the sticky tires only increase the amount of control, not decrease it. You really should be worried about those talking about increased horsepower, forced induction, nitrous. Wait, although certain of these are occasionally mentioned here, that is more the rice crowd or street drag crowd than the DE participant. See my comment above on the 100+ mph onramp example. > Somewhat yes, somewhat no.... If that's all my premiums were paying > for, there should be no cost differental for insuring an M3 or an > Accord. The history and statistics on a particular model of car do > figure into the premium that you are paying. I'm really sick of > hearing the "high cost of replacement parts" or the "well, sports cars > insurance companies more too" arguments from insurance agents when I > tell them what I drive. And I still get passed every morning by people > in Rav4s and Monteros doing 90mph and not paying any attention. oh well. Ummm, have you ever looked into comparing the cost to repair an E36 M3 and a current Accord? I have since I own both. I'll tell you what I found out, the Accord costs less to repair body damage. But, this is comparing cars which aren't that greatly separated on the market value spectrum. To take it further, compare a Porsche or Ferrari to the Accord. I do not disagree with the insurance industry's method of basing premiums on the type of car, makes sense to me even if there are occasionally anomalies. If you are going to make the argument that there should be no cost differential for insuring an M3 or an Accord, then why distinguish based on any driver demographic (i.e., DE participants)? They both play into the insurance industry's primary concern, the cost of the potential payouts made by the insurance company. Go back to my prior post on my thoughts with respect to your comment about "Rav4s and Monteros doing 90mph and not paying any attention". The only adjustment for these people are their prior claim history. If they can drive 90 mph while not paying attention and avoid any accidents, all the more power to them. But, more often than not, that kind of activity will catch up to them and they will pay via higher premiums. I am fairly confident in saying that the insurance industry is one industry that doesn't need any protection. They are quite able on their own. Later, Rich - Particularly not a fan of GEICO and their practices.
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding - from Dames, Mark
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:03:15 -0700 From: "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding Neil wrote: "drive in such a way make sure these various systems get activated" Hmmm, OK I can see planning to activate the ABS without much drama. How do you plan to activate the ASC (on dry land at least) and live to tell about it? Mark. -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2002 11:42 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2002 13:31:35 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: E46 brake bleeding on 8/21/02 9:51 AM, "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> wrote: > I was just informed that E46's can't be bled with just a standard pressure > bleeder, that the car has to be hooked up to a bleeder computer that opens > certain valves during the bleeding process. Any truth to this wives tale???? > Mark. This is theoretically the case with all cars with ABS or ASC+T/DSC. Some of the brake fluid is captured in the various valves and passages of the ABS/ASC+T/DSC control unit and doesn't get bled using standard methods. your dealer uses his factory electronic tools to cycle these. In practice it doesn't seem to matter much. It's also possible to bleed the brakes, go out and drive in such a way make sure these various systems get activated, then bleed again. Neil 96 M3 ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 11:09:36 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding on 8/26/02 11:03 AM, Dames, Mark at Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US wrote: > Neil wrote: "drive in such a way make sure these various systems get > activated" > > Hmmm, OK I can see planning to activate the ABS without much drama. How do > you plan to activate the ASC (on dry land at least) and live to tell about > it? Yeah well, that last part can be kind of tricky if the road isn't wet... Neil 96 M3
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#7. Front Spring Perches/Strut Tower? - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:31:50 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Front Spring Perches/Strut Tower? So I ended up with some front end clunking last week, which had me worried as it was almost immediately after I changed brake pads and rotors. After hours of tightening, shaking, listening, etc., I found out I have a loose or broken upper spring perch on the front left side (I think it was from a rather huge and extremely hard burm at the last track weekend). I wasn't around when the suspension (H&R Springs/Konis) were installed, but I assume they just used the factory spring perch in the underside of the shock tower (is there a proper name for this part?). Can these just be replaced with factory pieces? Also, I'll replace both sides and will need to have an allignment afterwards. I have my specs from last time, but they were sent by fax and are hard to read. Anyone care to verify that these look appropriate, or make suggestions. This is what I believe the fax states: Front Camber -2.0° Front Caster 7.0 Toe 0.05 Rear Camber -1.6L/-1/7R Toe .20L/.15R Thanks, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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#8. 18" Racing Slicks? - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:35:13 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: 18" Racing Slicks? A buddy of mine with 14" Brembos is in a bit of a dilemna. He runs 8.5x18 Forgelines on all four corners and was going to be running Hoosiers, but his source fell through. The Pilot Sport Cups and Toyo RA-1s don't have the proper sizes, and he'd actually prefer a true "slick" anyway, but will settle on what he can find. I've already told him that 265s on 8.5" wheels is probably not a good/safe idea. Does anyone have ideas on other 18" R-compounds or slicks? Thanks, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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#9. [E36M3] (more)18" Racing Slicks? - from twisty M3
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:50:34 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: [E36M3] (more)18" Racing Slicks? Sorry... Forgot to also ask if anyone knew of 17" wheels that would work with 14" Brembo brakes. Thanks! Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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#10. FS:3.2L EURO motor 98 M3 - from RacerxJLing@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:01:25 EDT From: RacerxJLing@aol.com Subject: FS:3.2L EURO motor 98 M3 30000 kms (18xxx miles) off LHD M3. Includes: Complete engine from valve cover to oil pan Euro exhaust manifold Euro HFM Euro intake box Wiring harness/EWS/3 keys Euro flywheel multiple throttle bodies Does NOT include: Euro radiator/overflow tank/oil cooler/intake snorkel $8900+ship from Orange, CA 92867 (already crated) More info re the conversion to the U.S. chassis @ www.akgmotorsport.com Euro parts can be purchased at BMW NA or James @ www.bimmerworld.com or akgmotorsport.com PM me @ racerxjling@aol.com w/ a contact ph# Serious inquiries only Jeff