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#1. Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:06:31 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail So, to extend your argument to something that EVERYONE pays...taxes. I'm in a tax bracket that gives me the _privilege_ of paying well over 30% of my salary in taxes to Uncle Sam, but at the same time, my income level prohibits me from taking advantage of many government programs (giveaways), tax credits, grants, etc. In other words, I'm paying for benefits that the less fortunate can take advantage of. Should I complain? Should I require that the government give every taxpayer a line-item approval list, to direct what our tax money should be used for, or should NOT be used for? I don't think the argument will go very far. Oh....the people who make $15k per year, pay virtually no taxes, and collect (more than they pay in taxes) their benefits from the government, curse up a storm at us "rich folks" who don't pay enough in taxes. Sure, it's an unfair system, and we have the freedom to leave the US and go somewhere else. But we don't... Getting back to car insurance, we ALL own E36 M3s, so we're willing to pay the necessary fees to own them. You can get an insurance rate quote prior to purchasing an M3, so you have the freedom to decide whether the insurance rate is reasonable or ridiculous. Here's another thing to consider...your insurance rate is probably more affected by the inexperienced drivers who damage their M3s on the street, rather than the experienced drivers who have an unfortunate event on the track. Do you require all M3 owners to be 25 years old and have certificates for completion of mandatory advanced driver training? Or do you let anyone with enough money and the ability to parallel park to get behind the wheel of an M3 and do whatever he wants? It's America, so the freedoms that some people enjoy can become the restrictions that other people hate. It's all about balance... -rb >Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2002 12:28:33 -0400 >From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> >Subject: Re :Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail > >Donna asks: > > >Jeff, > >Does that mean you don't buy collision coverage to pay for your own > >mistakes? > >That really does depend. I have collision now since I am still paying >off my car loan. Whether or not I continue it or increase the >deductable further depends on what I judge the car is worth and how much >money I have. When I was driving a '73 2002, I didn't bother with >collison because I would save the total cost of the car in 18 months. > >But, IMHO, collision for the street and a track situation are totally >different animals. Analogy time: > >You give the same toy to two different kids, and the toy is both fun and >durable. One kid plays with it in a fairly normal way, and has a lot >of fun with it. The other kid uses the durable toy like a hammer to >break other toys, throws it down the stairs, and generally abuses it a >lot more. When the toys break (because they will eventually), > >1. which kid are you more likely to give a new toy to? > >2. If you were in the toy insurance business, and didn't have time to >observe every child with the toy, wouldn't it be a decent assumption >that these toys break a lot and you should charge a bit of money to >everybody who owns them? > >That's just my view of it. Obviously, I have nothing against people >who track their cars. I hope they stay safe and get all the fun they >want out of it. I just don't want to have to pay for it when somebody >takes out 30 feet of armco and needs $19k worth of work done to their car. > >As Reid pointed out, it really is a strange double standard. Maybe >there should be a middle ground where people who plan to attend schools >could carry an additional line of coverage that was specifically for >track incidents. It would be optional for those of us who don't track >our cars, and if we did we would be out of luck if we bent it up. With >the amount of money that some people spend for track time and related >stuff, some extra insurance money probably wouldn't stop them from doing >it. > >Or, as Reid also mentioned, maybe I should just track my car since it is >covered. ;) >-Jeff _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:32:14 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding At 11:13 AM 8/26/2002 -0500, Neil Maller wrote: >Yeah well, that last part can be kind of tricky if the road isn't wet... I own a 95, and don't have these fancy gizmos on my car. If you put the car in the air (all four wheels) and attempt to engage first gear, will the right things cycle when the car doesn't see the front wheels moving? I remember something about the ASC getting in the way of dyno runs, so maybe that situation would activate the needed solenoids, etc. Just a thought. - Chris
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#3. Books by Heinz Heisler - from Paul Robertson
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:29:09 -0700 From: "Paul Robertson" <RobePa@wwc.edu> Subject: Books by Heinz Heisler Hi all I have Advanced Engine Technology by Heinz Heisler and regard it as one of the best engine books. He also has several other books listed in the link below, Have any of you read them and can recommend them? I am always looking for good reads on motor sports! I think there is a great need for a "recommended reading list specific to BMWs/Motor sports. Cheers! Paul Robertson robepa@wwc.edu http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/002-7567764-9012831
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#4. Re: Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail (last post) - from Jeff Thompson
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:34:20 -0400 From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> Subject: Re: Oops, I Did It Again and The Check Is In The Mail (last post) People, Well, several people have replied, and most of them have some really good points. I'm not quite ready to concede that claiming tack events doesn't cost me _anything_, but there are probably a lot of other things out there that cost me a lot more. And, as Ron B. so correctly pointed out, this is just a cost of owning an M3. If I don't like it, I can get another car. Not friggin' likely tho. :) Thanks to everybody for the discussion and not flaming me to a crisp. I'll be quiet now. Later, -Jeff
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 10:39:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding --- Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> wrote: > If you put the car in the air (all four wheels) and > attempt to engage first > gear, will the right things cycle when the car > doesn't see the front wheels > moving? anyone know of any good technical articles on ASC? i'm just guessing here... i believe the ASC throttle butterfly would close in that case, since the computer would think both rear wheels were spinning. i think the only way for the hydraulic system to get worked out is if only one rear wheel was spinning. the computer would apply the brake on the spinning side to transfer power to the non-spinning side. zs
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#6. Microfiche - from Paci, Noah
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:36:34 -0400 From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> Subject: Microfiche I am looking for BMW microfiche. Google didn't help me. Does anyone know where to go to get them? I asked my local dealer, but they have nothing for me. I want to get microfiche for both the 95 M3, and an 87 325. Thoughts? Cheers, Noah.
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:40:13 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding Since ASC uses the ABS pump, there's probably no need to engage ASC to flush brake fluid. Engaging ABS should be sufficient. As far as engaging ASC, you can easily engage it on dry land and live to tell about it. Find a nice smooth grassy field! -rb >Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:03:15 -0700 >From: "Dames, Mark" <Mark.Dames@PDO.Co.Santa-Clara.CA.US> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: E46 brake bleeding > >Neil wrote: "drive in such a way make sure these various systems get >activated" > >Hmmm, OK I can see planning to activate the ABS without much drama. How do >you plan to activate the ASC (on dry land at least) and live to tell about >it? > >Mark. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Microfiche - from David Bauer
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:49:58 -0500 From: David Bauer <dbauer@blkbox.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Microfiche Noah, Try www.koalamotorsport.com. You can find it on ebay occasionally, I picked up an ETM there fairly cheaply. Dave "Paci, Noah" wrote: > > Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 13:36:34 -0400 > From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> > Subject: Microfiche > > I am looking for BMW microfiche. Google didn't help me. Does anyone know where to go to get them? > > I asked my local dealer, but they have nothing for me. I want to get microfiche for both the 95 M3, and an 87 325. Thoughts? > > Cheers, > > Noah. > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* -- This mail has been sent using 100% recycled bits
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#9. Re: Front Spring Perches/Strut Tower? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 12:56:37 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Front Spring Perches/Strut Tower? on 8/26/02 12:13 PM, "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> wrote: > So I ended up with some front end clunking last week, which had me worried > as it was almost immediately after I changed brake pads and rotors. After > hours of tightening, shaking, listening, etc., I found out I have a loose or > broken upper spring perch on the front left side (I think it was from a > rather huge and extremely hard burm at the last track weekend). > > I wasn't around when the suspension (H&R Springs/Konis) were installed, but > I assume they just used the factory spring perch in the underside of the > shock tower (is there a proper name for this part?). Can these just be > replaced with factory pieces? Well, there's something new every day, but I've never heard of a spring perch breaking before. Since you didn't do the installation yourself, you now need to make *absolutely* sure that the struts were put together right. Or more exactly that they get put together right this time, which suggests you should have the other side checked too. Here's what to look for: 1) The front shock shafts have a step on them where the larger diameter shaft from the shock cartridge reduces to the smaller upper diameter. This step is conical, rather than right angled. There's an adapter: Spacer P/N 31 32 1 129 977 with a conical recess underneath and a flat top. If this part is omitted (and don't even think of asking me how I know...) the shaft's conical step will wedge itself through the upper spring perch and damage either that or more often the thrust washer (see 3 below). 2) The upper spring perch sits directly on top of the spacer. You didn't say which year your car is, so here are both part numbers: Upper spring plate (95) P/N 31 32 2 227 348 (larger diameter) (96+) 31 32 2 227 903 (smaller diameter) 3) Above the upper spring plate is a large thrust washer that's slightly conical on the upper side, and flat on the lower one. Support P/N 31 33 2 227 342 This must be installed in the correct orientation: flat side down. (These key parts are all inexpensive, but no dealer is likely to have any of them in stock.) Then above all that comes a thin pressed metal grease cup, the bearing plate (hat), the shock tower reinforcing plate (96+ only, should be added to any 95), an ordinary flat washer, and the shock shaft nut. I may be wrong, but experience (see below) suggests that omission or incorrect assembly of one of these parts is the most likely cause of your problem. I will add that it's not completely unknown for the thrust washer to crack for no apparent reason. "Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment." Neil 96 M3 - Koni/H&R, other stuff
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: Oxygen sensor - from Skip Bogard
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 07:31:10 -0400 From: Skip Bogard <skip.bogard@alumni.duke.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Oxygen sensor In one failure mode of the 02 sensor (code 1221 I think), you can "limp home", because it drops out of feedback mode into open loop (no feedback). It's them programmed to run rich, and while not giving the best gas mileage, it works and you can get home. But in a second alternative failure mode of the O2 sensor (code 1222 I think), it seems that you don't go open loop. The car stays in closed loop feedback mode, but the feedback signal is "wrong", at least 95% of the time. It overshoots...then undershoots erratically out of range. The car won't start, or if it does start ....the idle is so erratic it will cut out before you can move 10 ft. The idle is definitely sinusoidal in behavior and you won't like it. You'll probably drain your battery before you can get 1/4 mile, from repeated attempted starts. If the engine is totally cold, you might convince it to run a while at constant highway speeds. If the engine is hot or if you are limping home through city traffic, you can forget it. Net of this, I recommend you get it changed before you get stuck somewhere and can't move your car. - Skip Boen168@aol.com wrote: > > Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2002 13:50:21 EDT > From: Boen168@aol.com > Subject: Re: Oxygen sensor > > Gruppe, > > My daily driver '95 now has 151K miles and still on its original O2 sensor > yet a friend with an identical car but with 47K miles just had to replace his > ( 'check engine' light came on). Just curious to know the mileage anybody in > our gruppe replaced his/hers. My car still runs great and passes CA. > emissions without fanfare. Would anyone suggest replacing the O2 sensor at > this stage maybe for improvements in gas mileage and drivability or should I > follow the old adage "if it ain't broke, don't touch it"? Thanks! > > Best regards, > David > ole faithful '95 > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > *************************************************************