E36M3 #2553

Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:34:44

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Toyos - from James Clay
#2. Jumping out of gear...symptom of? - from Jason Sarich
#3. Street vs. Track settings - from twisty M3
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: 18" Racing Slicks? - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
#5. Draining Engine Coolant - from Paci, Noah
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: 18" Racing Slicks? - from Scott Smith
#7. Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant - from Scott Yu
#8. Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant - from Jason Jensen
#9. RE: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant - from Paci, Noah
#10. RE: [E36M3] Engine Coolant Disposal WAS Draining Engine Coolant - from Paci, Noah

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#1. Toyos - from James Clay
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:00:06 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Toyos RA-1 - the R compound track tire. They are molded to 8/32, excellent for intermediates or rain. Shave to 5/32 for longer life or 3/32 for a full race tire. James ------------------------------------------------------------------ James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com Engineered BMW Performance World Challenge / SCCA / BMWCCA Racecar Rental Genuine and OEM BMW Parts (540) 639-9648 ------------------------------------------------------------------ Please inquire about our new line of performance street, track, and full race clutch/flywheel systems.

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#2. Jumping out of gear...symptom of? - from Jason Sarich
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:54:58 -0700 From: "Jason Sarich" <sarich_m3@prontomail.com> Subject: Jumping out of gear...symptom of? Ladies and Gents, I have been running into a problem in my 99 M3 where I put the stick into Reverse, and upon engaging the gear, it jumps out. It has been doing this the last few weeks. I can tell that the first time I try to put it in reverse, it doesn't go all the way in...but after it jumps out, I can put it in gear and it will stay there. Is there something I should be concerned about? Something wearing out? -Jason ______________________________________________________________ Get Your Free E-mail at http://www.prontomail.com

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#3. Street vs. Track settings - from twisty M3
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 09:20:31 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Street vs. Track settings Okay, so I'll be getting my car alligned tomorrow, and I can't help but think that it might be "fun" to make some changes. My current settings are: FRONT Camber: -2.0 Caster: 7.0 Toe: .05 REAR Camber: -1.6 Toe: .15 (will be going to .10) Just spoke with my "suspension guy" and he suggested staying at those caster and toe settings (once I fix the rear to .10), but that I should go up to -3.0 front camber and -2.0 rear. Of course, this is still my daily driver, and I don't want to change before each event, as I'm sure I'll never get it back to normal. Does anyone run this much camber on the street? I already get some funky wear, but can swap tires around in such a way that it isn't terrible. How much worse would it be with an extra degee of neg. camber? Any in between settings that anyone would care to recommend? In all honesty, I think the car feels incredibly neutral as is, so I haven't really convinced myself to make any changes. If it can be made better, though... ;) Thanks for any input, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: 18" Racing Slicks? - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:29:07 -0400 From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <astaylor@taylorautosport.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: 18" Racing Slicks? > > >From: "John Van Houten" <jvh_lists@ix.netcom.com> > > > >Unless you are going for the win in BMod, what's the advantage, other > >than bragging rights? > > > >John > > > > I'm fairly certain he won't be doing any "real" racing. No full > cage, but > he does have a roll bar... if I remember correctly. Believe it or not, > these would just be needed for a time trial. However, there are some > bragging rights at stake here. Okay, knowing this, I'll answer my rhetorical question of "why not" ;-) CCA rule or not (on the fire system)...you definately shouldn't run slicks without *ALL* the safety gear: suit, gloves, properly mounted seat, full cage (preferably through the front firewall...aside from a safety standpoint...these things grip! which puts larger forces on the suspension mounting points, which in turn need extra reinforcements), and a fire system. Hell, proper racing heim jointed control arms (not factory ball joints in single shear) are a must. (Unless you want to replace control arms once a weekend). Not only are slicks faster, increasing the energy in a crash, but what makes them faster (grip) breaks stuff on the car alot faster. Slicks are the last step in developing a quasi-pro style race car, or for use on a full blown pro car. And they're not even going to work right unless you can get the load close to the design requirements of the tire. That means downforce...most slicks would scoff at a LTW wing on stilts. They need *real* downforce. Unless they were designed to be a tire for a spec series like Clio Cup (support for BTCC) or the like... Not for lapping days. </soapbox> ;-) Andrew http://www.taylorautosport.com/

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#5. Draining Engine Coolant - from Paci, Noah
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:05:15 -0400 From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> Subject: Draining Engine Coolant Does anyone have a trick for draining engine coolant without making a toxic slippery mess in the garage? It seems like it is going to get really messy..is it possible to siphon it out? Cheers, Noah

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: 18" Racing Slicks? - from Scott Smith
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:21:17 -0700 From: Scott Smith <scott@gelatinous.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: 18" Racing Slicks? > > because Hoosiers aren't half the price, and they suck after 5 laps, > > and they last about as long as slicks (2-3 weekends). Sure the > > 235/645/18 is $400 per tire. But that's because it's the Ferrari > > Challenge size. Go UP one size, to 245/645/18, and it's $252/tire, > > about the same as a Hoosier. > > > > Once you run slicks, you can never go back. > > All very true and if i was racing in Modified (hopefully next > season)--slicks make lots of sense. > > However, there was no mention that his friend was racing and seemed to > imply it was schools/lapping days, in which case Hoosiers/Kumhos/Pilot > Cup/Toyo's are just fine. Slicks are very fast, but also harder to > drive==more dangerous. > > Unless you are going for the win in BMod, what's the advantage, other > than bragging rights? driving slicks is different from driving Hoosiers. Why practice on Hoosiers if you'll race on slicks? The reason to run them is cost: they are about the same price as Hoosiers, and last as long! The ONLY reason to run Hoosiers is if the race rules require it -- i.e. stock or prepared classes. Now if it is just a lapping day / school, then run Toyo's. Don't run Hoosiers... Toyo's are cheaper, last forever, and provide plenty of feedback. Scott

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant - from Scott Yu
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 10:26:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant Something that worked pretty well when I did my radiator/hoses/coolant was keeping the one of the old L-shaped sections of hose that I was replacing, and holding the short end over the drain plug area to funnel it directly into a bucket. Worked pretty well, I'd say I avoided at least 80% of the mess I made the first time. Actually, I think it would be hard to find a shape more convenient than that hose section... --- "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> wrote: > Subject: Draining Engine Coolant > > Does anyone have a trick for draining engine coolant > without making a toxic slippery mess in the garage? > It seems like it is going to get really messy..is it > possible to siphon it out? > > Cheers, > > Noah __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant - from Jason Jensen
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:28:25 -0400 From: "Jason Jensen" <jasonjensen75@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant And for that matter where do you dispose of the stuff? I'm sure it isn't exactly fit for the storm drain, but last time I changed coolant no matter where I went no one would take the stuff...Ended up in a hole next to my parking lot...(covered of course to protect the dogs, cats, and kids) J >From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> >Reply-To: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:13:50 -0500 > >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:05:15 -0400 >From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> >Subject: Draining Engine Coolant > >Does anyone have a trick for draining engine coolant without making a toxic >slippery mess in the garage? It seems like it is going to get really >messy..is it possible to siphon it out? > >Cheers, > >Noah > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant - from Paci, Noah
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:25:22 -0400 From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant oh, good thinking, It didn't occur to me to replace the hoses. heh. this all started cause I am doing the timing belt...before long I think I will be doing an engine swap, just cause the timing belt(87 325es) needs replacing. Cheers, Noah. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Yu [mailto:segascott@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:27 PM To: Paci, Noah; E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant Something that worked pretty well when I did my radiator/hoses/coolant was keeping the one of the old L-shaped sections of hose that I was replacing, and holding the short end over the drain plug area to funnel it directly into a bucket. Worked pretty well, I'd say I avoided at least 80% of the mess I made the first time. Actually, I think it would be hard to find a shape more convenient than that hose section... --- "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> wrote: > Subject: Draining Engine Coolant > > Does anyone have a trick for draining engine coolant > without making a toxic slippery mess in the garage? > It seems like it is going to get really messy..is it > possible to siphon it out? > > Cheers, > > Noah __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Engine Coolant Disposal WAS Draining Engine Coolant - from Paci, Noah
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Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:26:34 -0400 From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Engine Coolant Disposal WAS Draining Engine Coolant The local dump (Fairfax county, VA) has a coolant disposal tank that you can dump it in. Your tax dollars at work -----Original Message----- From: Jason Jensen [mailto:jasonjensen75@hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 1:28 PM To: Paci, Noah; e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant And for that matter where do you dispose of the stuff? I'm sure it isn't exactly fit for the storm drain, but last time I changed coolant no matter where I went no one would take the stuff...Ended up in a hole next to my parking lot...(covered of course to protect the dogs, cats, and kids) J >From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> >Reply-To: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: [E36M3] Draining Engine Coolant >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 12:13:50 -0500 > >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 13:05:15 -0400 >From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> >Subject: Draining Engine Coolant > >Does anyone have a trick for draining engine coolant without making a toxic >slippery mess in the garage? It seems like it is going to get really >messy..is it possible to siphon it out? > >Cheers, > >Noah > > >************************************************************* >List Commands >UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. >DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > >To issue a command/request to the server: >Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >************************************************************* > > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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