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#1. Re: [E36M3] Drifting racing? - from matthew c. mead
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:05:00 -0400 From: "matthew c. mead" <mmead-bmw@goof.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drifting racing? On Wed, Aug 28, 2002 at 07:54:47AM -0500, Jason Knight wrote: > Recently some friends mentioned that a mutual friend > does drifting, or something like that. Apparently he > runs with this group that goes to tracks and the > intent is to "drift" through the various turns (for > instance I heard they run at Buttonwillow). I > wouldn't imagine this is timed, and I can't even > speculate what sort of tires are used for an event > such as this, but I'm curious if anyone is involved > with this or knows what it is about. I'm so to tire > care and monitoring times that this seems 180 degrees > from time trialing or racing, but also seems fun in an > abstract way. Not that I'm looking to participate. > Then again, the wife does have a Camaro, and it could > probably drift with the best of them. And this may be > off topic, but the curiosity is tearing me apart. Check out this link: http://www.driftsession.com/ It sounds like the Japanese phenomenon of drifting is hitting the west coast. At any rate, there's a large group of youths with automobiles in Japan setup to "drift." It's not an activity geared toward getting fast, making the most distance or best time, but having fun and drifting with style. I think of it as kind of like the X games of auto sports. -matt -- matthew c. mead 97 Dakar M3/4 - sharked, xbraced 97 White GS-R/4 - stock (wife's) 92 Black Miata - dropped, dampened, headed towards SM http://www.goof.com/~mmead/
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#2. RE: Questions about brakes - from Paci, Noah
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:29:29 -0400 From: "Paci, Noah" <npaci@rr.com> Subject: RE: Questions about brakes Brakes are one of the easier jobs to do if you have the tools, I bet if you indicated where you are located more than one lister would offer to help you do the job or do it for you for many, many $$ less. Either way, I had good luck recently buying rotors and pads from www.vinesauto.com for an e46 328, they had the best prices. The pads and rotors for the 328(which are close in size to the $260 with shipping the pads are identical and the rotors are roughly the same size as the M3 rotors). I personally dislike the metal masters, I would get one of the 3 OEM pads, vines has them all, go with the middle grade hardness and get normal OEM rotors, nothing slotted, drilled, cryo'd. The dust concern is not a real one, the metal masters are not dustless, and they are annoyingly squeeky(anti squeal helped alot). If you don't wait for the light to come on you will save yourself the $25 for the new brake wear sensors as well. :) I would be more than happy to do it for a couple of bucks if you can get your car to northern virginia. Cheers, Noah
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#3. Re: [E36M3] door panel adhesion - from David Bauer
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 09:24:02 -0500 From: David Bauer <dbauer@blkbox.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] door panel adhesion Gary, I used Goop brand adhesive on my door panels and it's doing fine after a year of Houston heat and humidity. Dave 95 M3 "Gary A. Preece" wrote: > > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 19:15:22 -0400 > From: "Gary A. Preece" <gapreece@entreky.net> > Subject: door panel adhesion > > Hey Guys and Gals, > > The plastic piece that was attached with some mystery glue to my door panel > has come loose. It is the plastic one that has friction fasteners at the > top of the panel that pushes in horizontally. I have tried Liquid Nails and > hot glue to no avail. Does anyone know what else to try? Thanks. > > Gary Preece > 95 Avus M3 > > PS - I went out and bought all new fasteners to use after I can get at least > a little adhesion. NOT CHEAP! > > ---
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro HFM and Injectors - from Matt Henson
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:32:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Henson <hensonator@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Euro HFM and Injectors --- RogRacer@aol.com wrote: > > > Jeremy writes.... > > << My car was down on power, especially low end, > with > the installation of the larger meter while running > the stock injectors. >> > > Jeremy...this doesn't really make any sense. If the > stock injectors were > maxing out you'd notice it at high rpm where the > engine is making peak power. > That is where flow rate is highest. At low rpm, > the stock injectors are not > even close to maxing out. > > If you indeed noticed a low rpm effect, I'd submit > it was the result of some > other variable. > > -Roger I was thinking the same thing. If anything, larger injectors should have worse performance at low RPMs since they can't be controlled as precisely. My bet is that the software that came with the larger injectors was just better and that's why it ran better. Jeremy, which software did you run with the stock injectors? -Matt __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
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#5. Re: Street vs. Track settings - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:24:14 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Street vs. Track settings on 8/28/02 8:13 AM, "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> wrote: > Okay, so I'll be getting my car alligned tomorrow, and I can't help but > think that it might be "fun" to make some changes. > > My current settings are: > > FRONT > Camber: -2.0 > Caster: 7.0 > Toe: .05 > > REAR > Camber: -1.6 > Toe: .15 (will be going to .10) > > Just spoke with my "suspension guy" and he suggested staying at those caster > and toe settings (once I fix the rear to .10), but that I should go up to > -3.0 front camber and -2.0 rear. Of course, this is still my daily driver, > and I don't want to change before each event, as I'm sure I'll never get it > back to normal. > > Does anyone run this much camber on the street? I already get some funky > wear, but can swap tires around in such a way that it isn't terrible. How > much worse would it be with an extra degee of neg. camber? Yeah, that's right about where I run ( -3.x F, -2.0 R) every day during track season. Yes there's irregular front tire wear, but it's not too bad. Rotate tires (if no stagger) and/or flip them on the rim to equalize. Of course I don't commute and don't do a lot of mileage... Neil 96 M3
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Questions about brakes - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:35:36 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Questions about brakes I said > > Do it yourself for a few hundred dollars instead and it only takes a few > tools and a Bentley manual is helpful. > I recommend OE equipment (Jurid or Textar) for the pads and OE rotors or the > Balos (Steve D). Steve D or Nick Alexander can get you the pads and the > brake parts as well as many other places. You didn't mention any disdain > for brake dust. With that in mind, you can't do better than the Jurid or > Textars in my opinion. Ed responded with > > With all due respect, I'd have to disagree with using Jurids or Textars. > My 97M3 came with Jurids from the factory. After just 1 day of driving, > my wheels were noticeably black with dust. Ahh yes, brake dust. Well, within the context of David's original email, he mentioned no disdain for the brake dust which I confirmed inn my response and have seen no subsequent comment otherwise from David. If that is still the case, I see no reason not to go with the Jurid or Textar (and even Pagid if there are no problems like I mention below). If brake dust was an issue, then my response would have been completely different. Personally, trying to eliminate brake dust is akin to eliminating any dust created when working in a wood shop. Dust is a component of braking like dust is a component of sawing/trimming/sanding wood. The amount that sticks to the wheel obviously varies and trying to reduce or eliminate (not really possible) usually involves compromises (like reduced performance, squeal, etc. which generally aren't worth it IMO). What really is brake dust? Well, brake dust must be worn pad material and worn rotor material. Both of these items contribute to the dust. The make-up of these parts determines how much dust 'sticks' to the wheel surface as far as I can tell. I have Porterfield R4S pads on my M3 right now in my effort to try something other than what the factory provided and to see if they would be a duel pad for me in my street/track situation. I need to make some efforts to reduce the amount of squeal though (I sound like a garbage truck when I use light braking effort) but less brake dust sticks to the wheels compared to the Jurids I had. They fared similar to the stock pads at the track in the similar ambient conditions and usage although they wore faster than the stock pads IMO. > I got OEM Pagids and > Brembo rotors all around from Steve D and it takes about 4 days to get > the same amount of dust on my wheels. The brake modulation feels > stock (maybe the Jurids are softer and grab better). And since the Pagids > are OEM, they have the proper anti squeal backing plates. My brakes > have never rattled or squealed. I would have recommended the Pagids but I thought that Steve D stopped selling them or there was something different about them now as I recall something to that effect on his website the last time I was there. I can't check right now do to the software at my work which blocks any websites relating to 'vehicles' (stupid Websense software) so maybe someone else would care to respond. As far as Brembos specifically, I recommended Steve D as a source if you look in my original comments. I know that he carries good stuff so he could supply all of David's needs as would any BMW dealer if this was preferred. Nothing wrong with regular Brembo or Balo rotors as well as the OE rotors. Don't get me started on slotting or drilling though (worthless and even potentially an added danger IMO). As always, YMMV. Regards, Rich - Different advice depending on what I think people are looking for! - Still feel the BMW engineers came with a good package for most circumstances right out of the box :-) Those guys most of known what they were doing.
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#7. OT: Stereo overhaul...need comments/advice/recommendations - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 10:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: OT: Stereo overhaul...need comments/advice/recommendations For the audiophiles on the list: Well, after having the car for almost 4 years and the stereo system for what was probably 3.5 years, it's time for a bit of an overhaul. Here is what I have so far: - Nak MB-75 6-disc changer - a/d/s/ P840.2 8-channel amp - a/d/s/ 335is.2 fronts - JL Audio Stealthboxes The original writeup that I did is: http://www.geocities.com/chester_p_wong/car_audio/stereo_upgrade.html I find myself not even using the stereo system because, well, the engine with an AA exhaust and BTG Racing's LTW flywheel just kicks butt. Also, even though the Nak has 6 disc capacity, I still find myself wanting more. I want MP3 playback capability! So, I'm at the crossroads where I'm going to replace the head unit. I'm leaning heavily towards the Alpine CDA-7897 and perhaps the MP3 capable Alpine 6 disc changer. So, here are a few regrets from the first time around: - I should have run power *and* ground from the head unit to the trunk. I ran power only and got alternator whine. I then ran a ground, but only to a ground point somewhere behind the dash. - Although my amp bracket is nice and it keeps the amp out of harm's way, it's a pain to adjust crossover points, etc. - I ran RCAs but I cut off the ends at the head unit side and crimped on terminals to plug directly into the back of the head. I thought it would make for a cleaner install, but I kinda regret cutting the ends. I will be running 3 sets of RCAs (even if I don't use all of them). The alpine head has 3 sets of outputs: 1 - fronts, 1 - rears, 1 - subs. I will be running power and ground...any recommendations on wires? Last but not least, I'll probably make the amp and/or sub box removeable...for track days, etc. So...I appeal to you experts for advice and recommendations. The amp has crossovers built in, but so does the head unit. Which should I use? How would you configure the a/d/s/ separates? Bi-amped or regular? Should I ditch the stealthboxes for rear channels and go with a single or double 10" sub arrangement? Recommendations for patch cables? Does brand really make a big difference? TIA!!! Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com
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#8. Yokohama AVS ES100 vs Kuhmo 712? - from Sean Burke
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:20:25 -0400 From: "Sean Burke" <sburke@ee.net> Subject: Yokohama AVS ES100 vs Kuhmo 712? Has anyone heard anything on the new Yokohama AVS ES100 tires? I'm currently running AVS Sports, but need to replace them very soon. My upcoming wedding has severly limited my tire budget. I was going to go with the Kuhmo 712's but the AVS ES100 intrigues me. The car is used for mostly street with a little autox every now and then. Thanks, --Sean '98 M3/4 Seems slow after driving an '02 911 turbo all Monday
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Yokohama AVS ES100 vs Kuhmo 712? - from Toby Smith
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 11:29:23 -0700 From: "Toby Smith" <tobys@microsoft.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Yokohama AVS ES100 vs Kuhmo 712? I have ES100's on my e30 and I absolutely LOVE them. That said, I do not have much experience with performance tires, but these are much better than the worn pirelli's that were previously on the car. FYI, if you order ES100's from TireRack before September, they will give you a cool little 1/10th scale R/C Porsche from HPI Racing! I missed out on this deal and am very disappointed. -Toby -----Original Message----- From: Sean Burke [mailto:sburke@ee.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 11:24 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Yokohama AVS ES100 vs Kuhmo 712? Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:20:25 -0400 From: "Sean Burke" <sburke@ee.net> Subject: Yokohama AVS ES100 vs Kuhmo 712? Has anyone heard anything on the new Yokohama AVS ES100 tires? I'm currently running AVS Sports, but need to replace them very soon. My upcoming wedding has severly limited my tire budget. I was going to go with the Kuhmo 712's but the AVS ES100 intrigues me. The car is used for mostly street with a little autox every now and then. Thanks, --Sean '98 M3/4 Seems slow after driving an '02 911 turbo all Monday ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Drifting racing? - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:54:56 -0400 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Drifting racing? Its on the East Coast also! NASA Virgina region is having a drift contest at their Hyperfest at Lowe's Motor Speedway on September 7- 8. They have one small video on their site. It is one activity that, I think, is geared toward attracting younger drivers to organized motorsports and away from street racing. http://www.nasaracing.net/ Dave > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 20:20:12 -0700 (PDT) > From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> > Subject: Drifting racing? > > Recently some friends mentioned that a mutual friend > does drifting, or something like that. Apparently he > runs with this group that goes to tracks and the > intent is to "drift" through the various turns (for > instance I heard they run at Buttonwillow). I > wouldn't imagine this is timed, and I can't even > speculate what sort of tires are used for an event > such as this, but I'm curious if anyone is involved > with this or knows what it is about. I'm so to tire > care and monitoring times that this seems 180 degrees > from time trialing or racing, but also seems fun in an > abstract way. Not that I'm looking to participate. > Then again, the wife does have a Camaro, and it could > probably drift with the best of them. And this may be > off topic, but the curiosity is tearing me apart. > > Jason > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes > http://finance.yahoo.com > > > ************************************************************ > * List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes > you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files > available in the list's GET directory. GET > filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************ > * > > >
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Anyone have a source for fog light air ducts? - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 14:54:56 -0400 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Anyone have a source for fog light air ducts? James Clay with Bimmerworld will probably reply, but they have one of the best brake duct systems that I am aware of. It does take a flange in the inner fender liner to attach the brake cooling hose. See: www.bimmerworld.com Dave > Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 21:20:07 -0400 > From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> > Subject: Anyone have a source for fog light air ducts? > > Does anyone have a source for air ducts (to be used for > brake cooling) that fit in the E36 M3 fog light opening and > accepts a 3" hose? > > If so, does the air duct require modification or can it be > slapped right in? > > Finally, does it mount on the front or rear of the bumper? > > Thanks for your help! > > Geof > > > > ************************************************************ > * List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes > you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files > available in the list's GET directory. GET > filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************ > * > > >