E36M3 #2563

Friday, August 30, 2002 20:33:46

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#1. Diff and exhaust - California - from Jim Bassett
#2. RE: [E36M3] 3:1 Ratio Clear Heat Shrink Tubing - from Dorffer, Rich
#3. Rear subframe operations - from Dorffer, Rich
#4. Re: [E36M3] 3:1 Ratio Clear Heat Shrink Tubing - from Neil Maller
#5. Re: [E36M3] Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s - from Chester Wong
#6. Re: Euro Oil Cooler Questions - from Neil Maller
#7. RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
#8. RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations - from Dave Kelley
#9. A/C Condensation - from KResener@aol.com
#10. Re: Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s - from Michael Kelley

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#1.  Diff and exhaust - California - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 13:51:19 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: <FS> Diff and exhaust - California I've got a couple of items off of the race car that I no longer need and are taking up space at Bill Arnold's shop. - Original 3.15 *open* diff - ~86,000 miles on it. Good condition (I swapped it out for an LSD). $200/OBO - '95 M3 exhaust (cat-back). Also good condition (installed RE exhaust). $150/OBO. Items can be picked up at Bill's shop in San Rafael, or I will deliver to just about any SF Bay Area, or Sacramento area, location. (If you're in the LA area and are interested, email me SOON. I have to break-in the race car motor, so a trip to LA this weekend - yeah, I know - may be possible.) Note prices are "OBO", so make a reasonable one and they're your's. Cash/money order/cashier's check/PayPal accepted. Cheers, Jim Bassett

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#2. RE: [E36M3] 3:1 Ratio Clear Heat Shrink Tubing - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:55:24 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 3:1 Ratio Clear Heat Shrink Tubing I had said > > Also, other types of brake lines already come with a form of sleeving or > tubing to protect the stainless steel lines (e.g., Earls). Chester says > > How about silicone sealant? I would be worried about the high temps melting > the plastic stuff off. Teflon is heat resistant as is silicone. I am not sure what you mean by silicone sealant? How would you spread the silicone sealant? How and where would it be used? I don't know what sort of temperatures stainless steel brake lines see in various applications. At that point in the brake system (i.e., the brake lines), I can't imagine that the outside of the brake line sees temperatures much, if any, in excess of 275 F (the stated upper operational limit of the tubing) in a driving school application for instance. The rotors and calipers take most of the brunt of the heat as far as I can tell. Furthermore, the worst that would happen is the tubing melts some or detiorates faster, I don't think there would be any detriment to the brake system if this did occur. Maybe Neil Maller can comment on the durability and temperature resistance since he has a similar set-up (shrink tubing with similar properties) on his M3 which he takes to the track and certainly isn't any slouch getting around from what I know and his brakes probably see fairly high temperatures. The tubing in my application as well as Neil's is polyolefin. Also, my intended use is on my E30 325is which will most certainly never have the brake lines see 275 F in a daily driver only. For that matter, the stainless steel lines are overkill :-) Best regards, Rich 95 M3 90 325is - soon to have Fischer stainless steel lines with clear shrink tube 89 325is

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#3. Rear subframe operations - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:10:09 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: Rear subframe operations Chester says > > Also, have you replaced the exhaust hangers? Of course, I'd recommend you do > that with the aftermarket exhaust because (a) you'll already have it off and > (b) it's lighter than stock so they won't be stressed as much. To which Dave responded > > What aftermarket exhaust hangers do you recommend. Where do you > buy them? Umm...if you look again, Chester recommends replacing the 'exhaust hangers' as the same time you do the 'aftermarket exhaust'. He makes no mention of 'aftermarket exhaust hangers'. I think it is safe to say that Chester was recommending one replace the OE exhaust hangers with new OE exhaust hangers. I personally don't know of any aftermarket units per se. Just OE and OE BMW units. Steve said > > I replaced the Bimmerworld RTB's with Powerflex last night and > they feel much nicer. To which Dave asked > > Where are you buying Powerflex bushings? In the line before Steve mentioned the Powerflex bushings, he stated "I have a set of Powerflex bushings (thanks to Andrew/Taylor Motorsport) and I'm gung-ho to tighten up the back this weekend." I would surmise he bought them from Andrew at Taylor Motorsport. :-) Regards, Rich

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#4. Re: [E36M3] 3:1 Ratio Clear Heat Shrink Tubing - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 16:34:29 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 3:1 Ratio Clear Heat Shrink Tubing on 8/30/02 3:55 PM, Dorffer, Rich at RDORFFER@CleIndians.com wrote: >> Also, other types of brake lines already come with a form of sleeving or >> tubing to protect the stainless steel lines (e.g., Earls). > > Chester says > >> How about silicone sealant? I would be worried about the high temps melting >> the plastic stuff off. Teflon is heat resistant as is silicone. > > I am not sure what you mean by silicone sealant? How would you spread the > silicone sealant? How and where would it be used? > > I don't know what sort of temperatures stainless steel brake lines see in > various applications. > Maybe Neil Maller can comment on the durability and temperature resistance > since he has a similar set-up (shrink tubing with similar properties) on his > M3 which he takes to the track and certainly isn't any slouch getting around > from what I know and his brakes probably see fairly high temperatures. The > tubing in my application as well as Neil's is polyolefin. I really didn't know either, which is why I thought of Teflon first due to it's high temp nature. When I couldn't make that work right I went with the next best 135C/275F polyolefin instead, and figured I'd keep an eye on it to see how it works out. Despite 20+ track days a year for a couple of years it hasn't melted at all and has remained pliable. So I'm now satisfied that it's fine for the application. Kudos to Rich for tracking down the transparent version. I had to go with black - but it was cheap ;) Neil

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:26:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s 63 12 1 393 343 - Bosch left yellow headlight 63 12 1 393 344 - Bosch right yellow headligh 63 12 8 363 493 - Bosch left headlight 63 12 8 363 494 - Bosch right headlight 63 12 8 363 495 - ZKW left 63 12 8 363 496 - ZKW right Chester --- Robert Chay <rchay@mindspring.com> wrote: > Anyone have the BMW part #'s for the European Ellipsoid headlamps? ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes http://finance.yahoo.com

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#6. Re: Euro Oil Cooler Questions - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 17:33:41 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Euro Oil Cooler Questions on 8/29/02 5:43 PM, "Riley, Scott" <sriley@cardinalcapital.com> wrote: > I've installed a number of LTW items (dual pickup oil pan, euro oil cooler, > etc.) on my '95 M3. I am still experiencing high oil temps (280-290) during > extended sessions on the tracks here in Texas. It appears that the location > of the euro oil cooler (mounted to the underside of the radiator) doesn't get > a tremendous amount of airflow. On the E36 M3, the bottom of the radiator > lines up with the bottom of the lower spoiler grill/intake. Therefore, when > the euro oil cooler is mounted under the radiator, the airflow is weak at > best. > > When I was searching through the ETK (Parts CD) earlier today, I noticed the > following part: 17 21 2 227 344 Air Duct. It appears to be a plastic air duct > that channels air to the euro oil cooler. Maybe mounted behind the grill > above the splitter hardware. > > I wanted to see if anyone was familiar with this part, how it was installed > and whether it will work. A friend of mine also suggested that I buy some > lightweight aluminum flashing and fabricate a duct/channel that would provide > some airflow to the oil cooler. > > TIA, > > Scott Riley > '95 M3 I-Stock Scott, Something seems off to me. The highest oil temps I've seen on track in a 99F ambient are about 250-260F. And that's with no oil cooler on a short track where you spend most of the time revving the crap out of the engine in 3rd gear. Even making allowance for up to 15F higher ambient in TX it seems hard to imagine that your oil cooler is functioning at all if you see 280-290F. I assume that your oil cooler is located roughly where the vertical baffle inside the stock plastic undertray used to be? This baffle seems to be there to prevent air from bypassing the radiator in the cooler-less US M3, but of course with the oil cooler in the low position you'd now want some air to do that. Looking at the air duct P/N you referenced, it appears that it may replace that baffle, although it's always hard to tell from the parts CD drawings. However the oil cooler kit that Racing Dynamics sells comes with what appears to be this very same part, see: http://www.racdyn.com/LocalizedContent/USA/USA_HomePage.asp then drill down to the E36 series, and click on the cooler picture to enlarge it. There also seems to be another duct of some kind in that photo. Neil 96 M3

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations - from Andrew-Taylor Autosport
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:20:07 -0400 From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <astaylor@taylorautosport.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations > Chester says > > > Also, have you replaced the exhaust hangers? Of course, I'd > recommend you do > To which Dave asked > > > Where are you buying Powerflex bushings? > > In the line before Steve mentioned the Powerflex bushings, he > stated "I have a set of Powerflex bushings (thanks to > Andrew/Taylor Motorsport) and I'm gung-ho to tighten up the back > this weekend." > > I would surmise he bought them from Andrew at Taylor Motorsport. > > :-) Well, it's really Taylor Autosport, (motorsport will suffice, though ;-) but I'm easier to find as Autosport. -Andrew http://www.taylorautosport.com/

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations - from Dave Kelley
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 19:29:30 -0400 From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations Thanks, I had just asked Rich. Dave > Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 18:20:07 -0400 > From: "Andrew-Taylor Autosport" <astaylor@taylorautosport.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rear subframe operations > > > Chester says > > > > Also, have you replaced the exhaust hangers? Of course, I'd > > recommend you do > > > To which Dave asked > > > > Where are you buying Powerflex bushings? > > > > In the line before Steve mentioned the Powerflex bushings, he > > stated "I have a set of Powerflex bushings (thanks to > > Andrew/Taylor Motorsport) and I'm gung-ho to tighten up the back > > this weekend." > > > > I would surmise he bought them from Andrew at Taylor Motorsport. > > > > :-) > > Well, it's really Taylor Autosport, (motorsport will suffice, though ;-) but > I'm easier to find as Autosport. > > -Andrew > http://www.taylorautosport.com/ > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >

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#9. A/C Condensation - from KResener@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 20:12:21 EDT From: KResener@aol.com Subject: A/C Condensation Gruppe, After an hour or so of fairly high speed interstate driving this afternoon (hey, it's Indiana, there's room...) with the a/c on, I took my favorite big, long, sweeping right hand exit home (nicely beating the kid in the Sunbird that attempted to follow. I know, I know, I'm good) and had what felt like a cup or so of ice cold water drop on my right foot. I must have a clogged drain tube or some such thing. Anyone had a similar experience that can share how to unclog? Thanks, Kurt '95 ///M3

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#10. Re: Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s - from Michael Kelley
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Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 21:27:20 -0400 From: "Michael Kelley" <mkelley@nc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s Bobby, here you go: ZKW left 63 12 1 393 271 right 63 12 1 393 272 Connector 61 13 1 392 222 Mike 98M3C > From: "Robert Chay" <rchay@mindspring.com> > Subject: Euro Ellipsoid Part #'s > > Anyone have the BMW part #'s for the European Ellipsoid headlamps? > > TIA, > -Bobby

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