E36M3 #2591

Tuesday, September 10, 2002 23:53:23

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Heated mirrors - from Reid Conti
#2. Re: [E36M3] USAA Insurance - from Reid Conti
#3. [E36M3] OT USAA Insurance - from Low, Roan
#4. E36M3 Service II / what to do? parts? - from matthew c. mead
#5. High(er) Octane Fuel Source - from Paul Smith
#6. RE: Toe in Adjustment - from BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)
#7. Assistance on Pre-purchase Inspection in West Palm Beach, Fl - from Eric ///M Foster
#8. RE: USAA Insurance - from BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)
#9. Re: Klunk Found and Weeping Seals - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#10. Re[2]: Heated mirrors - from LoweSeaton@aol.com

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#1. Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Heated mirrors - from Reid Conti
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 16:53:45 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: Re[2]: [E36M3] Heated mirrors do all E36 M3's have heated mirrors? I have a 95 that does not appear to heat, perhaps it's just I have bad elements.. I do have heated seats if that makes a difference.. - reid On Tuesday, Sep 10, 2002, at 06:13 US/Pacific, Andrej Dolenc wrote: > Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 09:08:11 -0500 > From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> > Subject: Re[2]: [E36M3] Heated mirrors > > LoweSeaton LoweSeaton writes: > >> chester_p_wong@yahoo.com writes: > >>> The mirrors are heated all the time...regardless of rain or outside >>> temp. > >> I agree. However, my mirrors have long since stopped heating up. >> What is >> the cause/fix? It is not a big concern since I live in Dallas, just >> curious >> if it is a cheap fix. > > As far as I know, the heating element is built into the mirror glass > itself. > You'd have to replace the mirrors themselves to regain the heating > functionality. > > Good time to upgrade to the Euro glass - the drivers side is convex > and makes > a difference in how much road you see behind you. The heating element > appears > to be stronger too, the drivers side mirror on my car clears up a lot > faster > than the passenger side one (only put in the euro glass on the drivers > side). > > Andrej > '97 M3 > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] USAA Insurance - from Reid Conti
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:02:47 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] USAA Insurance >>> (the way it is > written, even attending a NASCAR event where you get hit in the > parking lot > would be excluded). I assume this is now on every Allstate policy.<< > > Yikes. I dont see how that can hold up. 'Attending' a timed event > cannot > be construed as 'participating' in a timed event. On what grounds can > they > withold coverage if youre a spectator? Is it even legal? Is it legal > to > withhold coverage if you have an auto mishap while you are visiting > friends > with 'red' hair? Or visiting 30 yr old males with basset hounds? > Wouldnt it > be judged equally as capricious? why not? > Yeah. Try telling this to those who have had their car stolen from them by the police for attending a street race :) It appears to hold some kind of legal water. - reid

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#3. [E36M3] OT USAA Insurance - from Low, Roan
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:55:38 -0500 From: "Low, Roan" <Roan_Low@Keebler.com> Subject: [E36M3] OT USAA Insurance Sure makes perfect sense, just like I was turned down for owning guns (who happen to be stored unloaded in a 800lb gun safe when not with me) If I get a discount for an alarm, I should also get one for owning guns? No? -----Original Message----- From: Juan Rico [mailto:juan_rico@captionsinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 17:33 To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] USAA Insurance Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 15:27:10 -0700 From: Juan Rico <juan_rico@captionsinc.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] USAA Insurance A bit OT, but I'll believe anything these days. The house I just purchased almost fell out of escrow because nobody wanted to sell me house insurance coverage. The reason: I have three Dobermans... AAA, All State and Farmers flat out refused... -----Original Message----- From: Scott Yu [mailto:segascott@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 3:03 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] USAA Insurance Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 14:58:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Yu <segascott@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] USAA Insurance Umm... wasn't that NASCAR parking lot comment in jest? --- Paul Elliott <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:53:52 -0400 > From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: USAA Insurance > > >>(the way it is > written, even attending a NASCAR event where you get > hit in the parking lot > would be excluded). I assume this is now on every > Allstate policy.<< > > Yikes. I dont see how that can hold up. > 'Attending' a timed event cannot > be construed as 'participating' in a timed event. > On what grounds can they > withold coverage if youre a spectator? Is it even > legal? Is it legal to > withhold coverage if you have an auto mishap while > you are visiting friends > with 'red' hair? Or visiting 30 yr old males with > basset hounds? Wouldnt it > be judged equally as capricious? why not? > > Paul Elliott __________________________________________________ Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost http://dir.remember.yahoo.com/tribute ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#4. E36M3 Service II / what to do?  parts? - from matthew c. mead
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:48:34 -0400 From: "matthew c. mead" <mmead-bmw@goof.com> Subject: E36M3 Service II / what to do? parts? My M3 has 52k on it. I've done the oil/filter and air filter change. I've done brake fluid and checked on pad and rotor wear within 6 months, done the diff fluid, transmission fluid also within 6 months. I've got antifreeze to replace the engine coolant and a microfilter for the cabin environmental system. Looking through the list of items in my Bentley manual, it looks like I should replace the fuel filter and the spark plugs as well as check out the power steering fluid situation. Can you think of anything else I should check that isn't on the list in the Bentley manual? I noticed from 94 to 95 the interval on O2 sensors jumped from 50k to 100k. Should I replace them at 52k? www.performancemotorcars.com (through eAuto) lists Bosch FGR 8 KQC spark plugs at $5.29 each. Are these the ones to get? At 52K on the clock, should I bother with wires? They look spendy at $180 over on www.bmpdesign.com. www.performancemotorcars.com also lists a Mahle fuel filter for the M3. Is this a decent filter? I won't be horribly upset about getting parts from the local BMW dealer - with club discount they were cheaper than shipping parts from www.bmpdesign.com, but if the parts at the site above are the right things to get I don't see a point in spending more to have them tomorrow. THANKS! -matt -- matthew c. mead 97 Dakar M3/4 - sharked, xbraced 97 White GS-R/4 - stock (wife's) 92 Black Miata - dropped, dampened, headed towards SM http://www.goof.com/~mmead/

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#5. High(er) Octane Fuel Source - from Paul Smith
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:05:14 -0500 From: Paul Smith <pauls@ontario.com> Subject: High(er) Octane Fuel Source I asked at a local parts store. I was able to find a station (marathon) that had 110 octane racing fuel. Mix it with 93+ (or what ever) and you have a great mixture. A bit more than the additive, but much higher octane. Paul Smith Regarding: From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] [SoCal] High(er) Octane Fuel Source At 02:03 PM 9/10/02, Philip wrote: >Say, anyone know of a good source to obtain high(er) octane unleaded fuel >in the Orange County/Los Angeles area? You can go to www.76.com, and do a search on stations that have "racing fuel". Cheers, Jim Bassett

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#6. RE: Toe in Adjustment - from BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:33:24 -0400 From: "BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <bill_boom@hp.com> Subject: RE: Toe in Adjustment > -----Original Message----- > From: E36M3 [mailto:e36m3@bmw-m.net] > Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2002 16:58:54 -0700 > From: Robert.Eric.Fesler@nsc.com > Subject: Toe in Adjustment > > Anyone know the relation ship between turns and toe angle (or > inches)? In other > words if I want to dial out 3/16 of total toe-out how many > turns should I turn each > adjuster? 3 degrees of negative camber and 3/16 toe-out is > eating my tires but damn > it sure is fun to drive. I'm finally catching up on my digests and noticed no one has responded to this yet. Eric, when I adjusted my toe recently I found that one full turn of the tie rod equals right around 1/3" of toe on that wheel. So if you want to dial out (3/16")*(1/2) or 3/32" on each side, each side needs to be turned about (3/32)/(1/3) = 9/32 or a little more than a quarter turn. Note that this is not scientific and it probably depends on factors like existing camber and toe, and total tire diameter - but it's a ballpark. Also note that your camber is eating your tires much more than your toe is, so unless you're changing camber too don't expect much improvement. - Bill

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#7. Assistance on Pre-purchase Inspection in West Palm Beach, Fl - from Eric ///M Foster
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:09:30 -0500 From: "Eric ///M Foster" <e36m3digest@jedinite.com> Subject: Assistance on Pre-purchase Inspection in West Palm Beach, Fl Forwarding for a local CCA member who is not on the Digest... can anyone help? ----- Original Message ----- From: Davangmuitet@aol.com To: kcbmwclub@jednite.com Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 7:21 PM Subject: Need Assistance on Pre-purchase Inspection in West Palm Beach, Fl Eric, As discussed via telephone, I would appreciate if you would forward my request to BMWCCA members in the area of West Palm Beach and see if there is anybody who would be kind to help me inspect a 1988 528e currently for sale at a dealership in the West Palm Beach, Florida (zip code 33409). Alternatively, I am seeking information for a BMW mechanic shop in the West Palm Beach area who is affiliated with our Club, so I can send the car in for inspection ( I have already tried the only BMW dealership there, but they cannot fit in my schedule). My name is Vuong Nguyen. I am currently located in Leawood, Kansas, and can be reached at 913 897 0282 during evening or 913 762 3540 during day time. My member number is 117494. I 'll provide more details, once someone who would be willing to help contacts me. Thank you very much for your help. Vuong. email id : davangmuitet@aol.com

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#8. RE: USAA Insurance - from BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)
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Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:21:46 -0700 From: "BOOM,BILL (HP-Roseville,ex1)" <bill_boom@hp.com> Subject: RE: USAA Insurance I smell a bruised, dead horse here, but couldn't resist: > From: "matthew c. mead" <mmead-bmw@goof.com> > > On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 01:43:13PM -0500, m3ltw@msn.com wrote: > > ... > > The insurance industry is getting wise! Darn. > > I don't understand why people can't take responsibility for their > accidents... Making a claim, without any misrepresentation of what happened, for something that is legitimately covered by my insurance carrier, and expecting that claim to be paid is not a failure to take responsibility for my actions. I pay good money to be covered for what I am covered for. The insurance companies are doing just fine, and I have no reservations about making a legitimate claim. The fact that they might be able to make more money by *not* covering track days is not my concern. > The insurance carriers provide coverage that is intended to be > used in public, on the street, driving among other drivers. That's not necessarily true. Insurance companies have known of the existence of driving schools on road courses for some time without feeling the need to explicitly exclude them like they have recently been doing. When I asked mine if I was covered for it, they said yes. Being at the track makes me a better driver in emergency situations (not *despite* the fact that I'm going faster than I would be in public, but *because* of it.) So for all we know, the actuaries have figured out that for every $30,000 loss they incur from covering someone who totals their car at the track, they may have saved themselves a $300,000 hospital bill for injuries that were avoided as a result of an accident *not* happening because another person they insure benefited in an emergency situation from skills they learned at the track. > The fact that the wording is > currently so broad for carriers that have awoken to this risk is > probably due to a fraudulent claims history connected with > driver's events/racing/autocross. Agreed. I think the reason we are seeing the new wording in some policies has a lot to do with fraudulent claims. - Bill

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#9. Re: Klunk Found and Weeping Seals - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:13:18 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: Klunk Found and Weeping Seals neil.maller@gte.net writes: > Hmm, that's interesting. What shocks/springs? I'm trying to remember whether > I trimmed my rear bump stops or not when I put the H&R/Konis on, but it was > so long ago I forget. Think I'll go and look... > > Neil > 96 M3 Neil - You can be assured he is NOT using Bilsteins :-) I guarantee you won't get enough suspension travel with my Bilsteins to come close to bottoming out. Bilstein designed their shocks to support a cement truck. Seriously, you really don't have to trim the bumpstops on the rear. I know you don't need to with Bilstein and I'd bet the same for Koni. Why? Because the rear shock does not need that much range of travel. I'll bet the rear wheel can't move up and down as much as the front wheels and the rear shock is mounted in board of the rear wheel. Then consider the way the rear shock is mounted. It attaches to the shock mounts way up in the truck making it quite long to start. Bottom line: The rear shocks don't come close to bottoming out regardless who makes the shock. The rear bumpstops are just there to hold up the dust boots. I completely removed my Bilstein bumpstops (front and rear!) 2 years/20,000 miles ago. I got so mad with the front Bilstein struts that I totally removed the internal bumpstops and for good measure took the rear bumpstops and dust boots off too. Removing the front bumpstops was a noticeable improvement. Removing the rear's had no affect. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 - we don't need no stinking bumpstops!

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#10. Re[2]: Heated mirrors - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:47:53 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re[2]: Heated mirrors reid@conti.net writes: > do all E36 M3's have heated mirrors? I have a 95 that does not appear > to heat, perhaps it's just I have bad elements.. I do have heated seats > if that makes a difference.. Reid - Yep! All E36 M3's are supposed to have heated mirrors. If yours don't heat up, then you have burned out elements same as me. Here is a little trivia. What other "heated" parts are there on the M3? Answer: windshield washer jets and driver's door lock. Now for the really obscure trivia. The outside mirrors and washer jets are ALWAYS heated, regardless of the outside temperature. Only the driver's door lock is temperature controlled. And you know how to "turn on" the heated door lock? You lift up the handle and wait a few seconds. If you ever have occasion to look at your brake ducts, you will find two temperature sensors - one in each side. The one in the driver's side brake duct is for the OBC temperature display. The one in the passenger's side brake duct is a silver dollar looking thing. It controls the driver's door lock heating element. If the outside temperature is below about 40 degrees, the driver's door lock is heated. Above 40, no heat. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 BMW CCA #131505

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