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#1. Re: [E36M3] Strut/shock replacement - from Chris Teague
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 07:37:32 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Strut/shock replacement Mark, I have greased the strut bearings each time I remove them. I used blue loctite on the rear shock, and it works fine. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 08:09:43 -0400 (EDT) > From: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> > Subject: Strut/shock replacement > > > Anybody recommend [or tried] packing grease in the strut hat bearing when replacing the struts?They came off dry, but were still working well -- probably because they are located high in the wheel well. Also, should I use the red Loctite on the rear-shock-to-trailing-arm bolt? Mark Greer'97 M3 Sedan
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Strut/shock replacement - from Rich Beebe
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:08:39 -0400 From: Rich Beebe <rich@beebecomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Strut/shock replacement i have also repacked my hats each time i haven't replaced them. i try my best to clean them up first also. i just torque the rear shock bolt down to 80ft.lb. and i haven't had any back out/loosen on me yet. rich From: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> > Anybody recommend [or tried] packing grease in the strut hat bearing when > replacing the struts?They came off dry, but were still working well -- > probably because they are located high in the wheel well. Also, should I use > the red Loctite on the rear-shock-to-trailing-arm bolt? Mark Greer'97 M3 Sedan
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#3. RE: [E36M3] '95 5-Spoke Rear Wheels - from Greg Gantt
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 12:26:07 -0400 From: Greg Gantt <ggantt@gantt-consulting.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] '95 5-Spoke Rear Wheels Rich, Thanks for the response to my inquiry. If I get real lucky, I'm hoping to find a used pair but don't thing this is very probable. Alternatively, I plan to get a quote from BMW for a new set with the CCA discount. I figure this will be a very expensive option. I like the classic look of the wheels and that they're forged (strong & lightweight). If you know of anyone with a pair for sale, or if you've got any other ideas how/where to obtain these wheels I'd be most grateful. Thanks again for your help with the PN. Greg -----Original Message----- From: Rich Beebe [mailto:rich@beebecomm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:21 AM To: Greg Gantt; E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] '95 5-Spoke Rear Wheels i guess you didn't find it on bimmerforums, huh? LTW 8.5" p/n: 36.11.2.227.360 rich From: Greg Gantt <ggantt@gantt-consulting.com> > Anyone have the part number for 1995 silver painted 5-spoke 8.5" rear forged > wheels? Also, anyone with a pair of these interested in selling, please > contact me via e-mail. Thanks. > > Greg
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#4. RE: M3 vs non-M3 Control Arms - from Paul Robertson
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:47:07 -0700 From: "Paul Robertson" <robepa@wwc.edu> Subject: RE: M3 vs non-M3 Control Arms Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 16:02:55 -0700 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: M3 vs non-M3 Control Arms I ordered new control arms for my '95. Amnd they mistakenly sent me control arms for the non-M E36. It appears that the geometry is the same, the only difference being the additional material on the non-M arm to support the sway bar attachment. Yes there is a differance. The lower ball joints on non M e36 cars is set in a rubber bushing that removes road noise and make the steering inputs much morer vague. When I put M control arms in my 325 is (now a 332is) it made a big differance! Paul Is there any drawback to simply using these arms on my '95? I really hate to have to go through the hassle of a return unless I have to. Any advice would be appreciated. -p
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Ed Yee
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:07:18 -0400 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins Mike, I have a 97 M3 and since I'm in South FLA, my AC is on almost all the time. My AC has never turned off by itself. There was some talk earlier on the board about the AC control unit's printed circuit board going bad causing intermittent operation. The recycle air button is independent of AC operation. I usually run the AC with the recycle air off unless I'm behind a diesel or I'm driving by the landfill. Of course, using the recycle with the AC will allow for more cooling since you are cooling already cooled air. My previous 318i with manual HVAC had an interlock where if you press the recirculate air button, the AC would turn on automatically but you can still turn on the AC without using the recirculate air button. I'm not sure if the same interlock occurs in the newer digital display HVAC control in 96+ cars. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:16 AM Subject: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:54:58 -0700 > From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> > Subject: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > I recently purchased a 1997 M3 and think I've found a few pesky BMW > Gremlins. Lately with the heat and all, I've started using the A/C more > often. Occasionally, the A/C will turn off completely. No matter what > I do it stays off - even if I toggle with the ac on /off button, etc. > Then a few minutes later it will come back on again - with and without > me messing with the controls even! > > Any ideas what's going on here? > > In a related note, I've noticed recently (not sure if this is the case > all the time or not) that this occurs most frequently when waiting at a > traffic light. When I start moving again, the A/C kicks back on. > > Let me know what the deal is with this! > > Also, do I need to have the recycled air button on when I'm running A/C? > When I purchased my car the dealer told me I needed to hit that > everytime I use A/C. He made it sound like I could break something if I > didn't. Does that really effect anything other than recycling the air? > i.e. will it damage the a/c system if I don't/do use it? > > Let me know! > -Mike > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Reid Conti
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 11:29:53 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins My 95 M3 turns on the A/C when you hit the recirc button.. just another data point :) - reid On Saturday, Sep 14, 2002, at 11:13 US/Pacific, Ed Yee wrote: > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:07:18 -0400 > From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > Mike, > > I have a 97 M3 and since I'm in South FLA, my AC is on almost all the > time. > My AC has never turned off by itself. There was some talk earlier on > the > board about the AC control unit's printed circuit board going bad > causing > intermittent operation. > > The recycle air button is independent of AC operation. I usually run > the AC > with the recycle air off unless I'm behind a diesel or I'm driving by > the > landfill. > Of course, using the recycle with the AC will allow for more cooling > since > you > are cooling already cooled air. > > My previous 318i with manual HVAC had an interlock where if you press > the > recirculate air button, the AC would turn on automatically but you can > still > turn > on the AC without using the recirculate air button. I'm not sure if > the > same > interlock occurs in the newer digital display HVAC control in 96+ cars. > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:16 AM > Subject: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > >> Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:54:58 -0700 >> From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> >> Subject: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins >> >> >> I recently purchased a 1997 M3 and think I've found a few pesky BMW >> Gremlins. Lately with the heat and all, I've started using the A/C >> more >> often. Occasionally, the A/C will turn off completely. No matter >> what >> I do it stays off - even if I toggle with the ac on /off button, etc. >> Then a few minutes later it will come back on again - with and without >> me messing with the controls even! >> >> Any ideas what's going on here? >> >> In a related note, I've noticed recently (not sure if this is the case >> all the time or not) that this occurs most frequently when waiting at >> a >> traffic light. When I start moving again, the A/C kicks back on. >> >> Let me know what the deal is with this! >> >> Also, do I need to have the recycled air button on when I'm running >> A/C? >> When I purchased my car the dealer told me I needed to hit that >> everytime I use A/C. He made it sound like I could break something >> if I >> didn't. Does that really effect anything other than recycling the >> air? >> i.e. will it damage the a/c system if I don't/do use it? >> >> Let me know! >> -Mike >> >> >> >> ************************************************************* >> List Commands >> UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing >> list. >> DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. >> GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). >> >> To issue a command/request to the server: >> Send a message with the command you wish executed as the >> subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. >> ************************************************************* >> >> > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:30:12 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins At 01:33 PM 9/14/2002 -0500, Reid Conti wrote: >My 95 M3 turns on the A/C when you hit the recirc button.. just another >data point :) Mine too. I'd sure love to know how to defeat this "feature." If I wanted A/C, I'd hit the A/C button too! - Chris
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#8. RE: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Mike Frank
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:05:11 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins Mike, Do all the lights/display go out? Maybe some go out but operation isn't consistent with the display? If so it sounds like your climate control unit is going bad. I had very similar symptoms when mine started to go. It gets worse. If you pop the OBC and apply pressure to the large (blue?) connector on the back of the unit you can probably get it to turn on and off. This is a very common problem. These things seem to fail like clockwork after about 5 years. Solution: buy a new climate control. Good news: not backordered anymore (tells you how many were failing). Bad news: ~$200. I did see some detailed instructions about reflowing solder joints on the PCB to fix the problem - almost certainly a cracked trace/joint. I took mine apart and took a look at it and decided to just buy a new one. BTW, I'm an electrical engineer and have all the tools, supplies, and experience necessary. However, it's very easy to spend a good deal of time on this and 1) you don't fix it 2) you fry or damage something 3) It works temporarily and fails a week, month, year later. Not worth the hassle personally. Once you install the new unit you will have to make a trip to the dealer for some "programming", unless you like the temp readout in Celsius. I have a good relationship with the parts/service people at my local dealer so they just did it for free (bought the CC from them). Otherwise I think they may charge you 1/2 to 1 hour of labor. No idea about the recirculating air thing. FWIW, I never use mine. Must be why it crapped out. :) HTH, Mike Frank 97 M3 > -------------------- 6 -------------------- > Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 13:54:58 -0700 > From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> > Subject: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > I recently purchased a 1997 M3 and think I've found a few pesky BMW > Gremlins. Lately with the heat and all, I've started using > the A/C more > often. Occasionally, the A/C will turn off completely. No > matter what > I do it stays off - even if I toggle with the ac on /off button, etc. > Then a few minutes later it will come back on again - with and without > me messing with the controls even! > > Any ideas what's going on here? > > In a related note, I've noticed recently (not sure if this is the case > all the time or not) that this occurs most frequently when > waiting at a > traffic light. When I start moving again, the A/C kicks back on. > > Let me know what the deal is with this! > > Also, do I need to have the recycled air button on when I'm > running A/C? > When I purchased my car the dealer told me I needed to hit that > everytime I use A/C. He made it sound like I could break > something if I > didn't. Does that really effect anything other than > recycling the air? > i.e. will it damage the a/c system if I don't/do use it? > > Let me know! > -Mike
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#9. Re: M3 vs non-M3 Control Arms - from Neil Maller
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:45:20 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: M3 vs non-M3 Control Arms on 9/14/02 9:23 AM, Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> wrote: > I ordered new control arms for my '95. Amnd they mistakenly sent me control > arms for the non-M E36. It appears that the geometry is the same, the only > difference being the additional material on the non-M arm to support the > sway bar attachment. > > Is there any drawback to simply using these arms on my '95? I really hate to > have to go through the hassle of a return unless I have to. Send them back. The non-M control arms have lighter duty ball joints in softer rubber inserts. Neil
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#10. Injector service - from Rob Verenna
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:44:54 -0400 From: Rob Verenna <rob@willraceforbeer.com> Subject: Injector service I'm looking for a place to send my injectors to be cleaned/blueprinted/whatever while I've got them out of the car. Anyone got any recommendations? I know on one list someone posted about a place that was ~$30 per and had excellent turn-around times, but I forget where that was. Any advice is appreciated. - rob
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#11. Re: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Neil Maller
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 16:51:43 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins on 9/14/02 9:23 AM, "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> wrote: > I recently purchased a 1997 M3 and think I've found a few pesky BMW > Gremlins. Lately with the heat and all, I've started using the A/C more > often. Occasionally, the A/C will turn off completely. No matter what > I do it stays off - even if I toggle with the ac on /off button, etc. > Then a few minutes later it will come back on again - with and without > me messing with the controls even! > > Any ideas what's going on here? > > In a related note, I've noticed recently (not sure if this is the case > all the time or not) that this occurs most frequently when waiting at a > traffic light. When I start moving again, the A/C kicks back on. Is your auxiliary electric cooling fan functioning when you're stopped with the A/C on? If not the A/C limit switch could be cutting out from overheating. You should also have the R134A refrigerant charge (pressure) checked. Incorrect charge could cause the evaporator to freeze up, which would also trip the system. > Also, do I need to have the recycled air button on when I'm running A/C? > When I purchased my car the dealer told me I needed to hit that > everytime I use A/C. Total BS. > He made it sound like I could break something if I > didn't. Does that really effect anything other than recycling the air? > i.e. will it damage the a/c system if I don't/do use it? It just recircs the air, which will help initial cooling under extreme temp conditions. Neil 96 M3