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#1. Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Ed Yee
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:04:34 -0400 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins Reid, I just checked out my HVAC. If I turn off the AC and hit the recirc button, the AC doesn't turn on. I think the difference is your 95 M3 (also my 94 318i) with its manual dial operated HVAC control unit and the 96+ push button auto HVAC control units. It used to bug me when I lived in Austin with my 318i and the weather got cooler, when I hit the recirc, the AC would come on and the air would be frigid, causing me to compensate with the heater control. The dealer claimed that the design prevented sudden fogging of the windows by using the AC to dry the air. Kind of makes sense, but I prefer individual control like my present car, although I don't like the auto HVAC to go full blast when I start may car, trying to cool the interior to the set temp. Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> To: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > My 95 M3 turns on the A/C when you hit the recirc button.. just another > data point :) > > - reid > > On Saturday, Sep 14, 2002, at 11:13 US/Pacific, Ed Yee wrote: > > > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:07:18 -0400 > > From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > > Mike, > > > > I have a 97 M3 and since I'm in South FLA, my AC is on almost all the > > time. > > My AC has never turned off by itself. There was some talk earlier on > > the > > board about the AC control unit's printed circuit board going bad > > causing > > intermittent operation. > > > > The recycle air button is independent of AC operation. I usually run > > the AC > > with the recycle air off unless I'm behind a diesel or I'm driving by > > the > > landfill. > > Of course, using the recycle with the AC will allow for more cooling > > since > > you > > are cooling already cooled air. > > > > My previous 318i with manual HVAC had an interlock where if you press > > the > > recirculate air button, the AC would turn on automatically but you can > > still > > turn > > on the AC without using the recirculate air button. I'm not sure if > > the > > same > > interlock occurs in the newer digital display HVAC control in 96+ cars. > > > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:16 AM > > Subject: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:06:59 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins Well. I've been sitting here trying to understand why anyone would ever want to recirculate the air in their car WITHOUT passing it through the chilling coil? What would be the advantage? Why would you need to recirculate the stale air? Huh? Am I missing something? I suspect BMW got this right, having the AC come on whenever you ask for recirculation! Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 19:04:34 -0400 > From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > Reid, > > I just checked out my HVAC. If I turn off the AC and hit the > recirc button, the AC doesn't turn on. I think the difference is your > 95 M3 (also my 94 318i) with its manual dial operated HVAC > control unit and the 96+ push button auto HVAC control units. > > It used to bug me when I lived in Austin with my 318i and the weather > got cooler, when I hit the recirc, the AC would come on and the air > would be frigid, causing me to compensate with the heater control. The > dealer claimed that the design prevented sudden fogging of the windows > by using the AC to dry the air. Kind of makes sense, but I prefer > individual control like my present car, although I don't like the auto > HVAC to go full blast when I start may car, trying to cool the interior > to the set temp. > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> > To: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> > Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 2:29 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > > My 95 M3 turns on the A/C when you hit the recirc button.. just another > > data point :) > > > > - reid > > > > On Saturday, Sep 14, 2002, at 11:13 US/Pacific, Ed Yee wrote: > > > > > Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:07:18 -0400 > > > From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> > > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > > > > Mike, > > > > > > I have a 97 M3 and since I'm in South FLA, my AC is on almost all the > > > time. > > > My AC has never turned off by itself. There was some talk earlier on > > > the > > > board about the AC control unit's printed circuit board going bad > > > causing > > > intermittent operation. > > > > > > The recycle air button is independent of AC operation. I usually run > > > the AC > > > with the recycle air off unless I'm behind a diesel or I'm driving by > > > the > > > landfill. > > > Of course, using the recycle with the AC will allow for more cooling > > > since > > > you > > > are cooling already cooled air. > > > > > > My previous 318i with manual HVAC had an interlock where if you press > > > the > > > recirculate air button, the AC would turn on automatically but you can > > > still > > > turn > > > on the AC without using the recirculate air button. I'm not sure if > > > the > > > same > > > interlock occurs in the newer digital display HVAC control in 96+ cars. > > > > > > Ed > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Mike" <mike@worklife.com> > > > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > > > Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2002 10:16 AM > > > Subject: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#3. '98 M3 4dr., automatic FS - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 22:22:27 -0400 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: '98 M3 4dr., automatic FS For Sale. Beautiful 4dr. Automatic M3, White/Gray, immaculate, all service up to date. 63,500 Highway miles, owned by a Dentist that commutes 150 miles to his office. Complete records, One owner, Loaded, Just Zymoled. All power options, Harmon Kardon Sound System, heated seats, OBC, Sunroof, Cruise, M contour wheels with new Yokohama AVS tires, Maintained and serviced by local BMW CCA President. JC Chip, heat shield and ITG filter, 3.2 L OBD ll, 277 hp. Southern Car located in Knoxville, TN, Contact eevans@planetc.com 865-694-3088 for Pix. VIN WBSCD0326WEE14115. $24,995 Firm. Evan
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 23:28:14 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittant A/C Questions + Pesky BMW Gremlins At 07:03 PM 9/14/2002 -0500, Joe Dyer wrote: >Well. I've been sitting here trying to understand why anyone would ever want >to recirculate the air in their car WITHOUT passing it through the chilling >coil? What would be the advantage? Why would you need to recirculate the >stale air? Huh? Am I missing something? I suspect BMW got this right, >having the AC come on whenever you ask for recirculation! Imagine yourself stuck in traffic on a fine fall day on the Cross-Bronx in NYC, surrounded by noxious exhaust fumes... Give me my interior "stale" air over the "fresh" stuff outside any day! It's only insult to injury that I am forced to run the air conditioning as my poor car sits idling in traffic, and then just heat up the air again so it doesn't become a meat locker in the car. - Chris
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#5. Cabrio Rear Speakes In A Coupe ///M3 - from Bill P
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 12:02:34 -0400 From: "Bill P" <billpanop@suscom.net> Subject: Cabrio Rear Speakes In A Coupe ///M3 I am in the precess of redoing my stereo in my 1995 E-36 ///M3. I was wondering,how hard and is it possible to add the rear speakers out of a cabrio. Unless I am mistaken they are on the sides of the rear seat. Also you guys with the parts cd's, what partnumbers would be needed to do this conversion? The reason I want to do this is that I am planning on getting JL Audio stealth boxes and do not want to sacrifise my rear fills. While on this subject, anyone have a set of JL Audio stealths they want to sell of trade? Bill P
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#6. It's spreading like an STD! - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 13:00:52 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: It's spreading like an STD! I was out of state last week visiting the corporate office in South Park (I mean Woodland Park, home of the Texas 7), CO. I got home on Friday in the evening. Saturday morning (yesterday) I go outside to fondle (I mean caress, I mean, ...never mind) my M3 (Penny) and saw a Cosmos Black Coupe parked across the street. The garage was open and the familiar, sexy sounding, Red, 996 Porsche Carrera 2 was gone. I had to investigate. My neighbor and I had traded cars about 6 months ago so I could re-align his Porsche after he installed H&R springs. I guess he liked driving Penny and decided to get his own 97 M3 Coupe. I sent him and invitation to the e-mail list yesterday. He has had the car three weeks and has already Sharked and JC-CAI'd the car. I'm gonna have trouble keeping up with him soon. Mel
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#7. Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 14:16:59 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found As I was replacing my rear shock mounts today (with E46M3 bits -- studs reversed and welded onto Z3 reinforcement plates), I nearly could not finish the job. The previous owner, who was nice enough to equip the car with Bilstein's in the first place, was unfortunately nice enough to leave me a nasty surprise. One of the allen keyways at the top the Bilstein shaft was nearly completely stripped! For those not familiar, this is how you hold the shaft from spinning while you remove the nut at the top of shaft. I think BMW OE shocks have flats, instead of the allen keyway, probably for this exact reason. I managed to just barely get the new part on and snugged up but I'm sure that next time I will not be able to use the same method. I was able to tap the allen wrench in with a hammer to facilitate the repairs this time but that won't be possible next time as it is just about completely rounded now. Two questions come to mind: 1) Has anyone experienced this before and found an alternate solution for holding the shaft (and not damaging it)? 2) How long of a life do Bilstein's have? Perhaps next time I won't have to worry about because the next time they come off will be to replace the entire shock?? Thanks, Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 (now ready for Sept 28-29 at MidOhio, except for changing tires)
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 18:27:34 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found Jeremy, It is not the end of the world if your strut shaft is stripped or mangled. If you are removing the top nut and using an air impact wrench, you can just blast it until the nut comes off. [It should break loose on the first hit.] If you are using hand tools only, you still are not out of luck. Be sure to have your spring compressors on the spring. Then just slide the dust boot down a little to expose the very top of the shaft. Use a big pair of Vise-Grips to clamp the top of the shaft. Don't worry about damaging the shaft. The very top part never goes into the strut anyway. And the steel is so very hard your Vise-Grips aren't going to even nick it. Assembling is the same methods. Be careful not to overtighten the strut top nut with the air wrench. The convex shaped washer under the strut bearing is easy to break if overtightened. As for life expectancy? I suspect your Bilsteins will last a good long while. At the rate mine are wearing, I'd say mine will last forever. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, Texas
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:12:15 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found Jeremy, You might be right about the dust boot. Sorry about that. I remember the bottom snaps onto the top of the housing. And yeah, I think the top is held up by a washer. There is no rubber bumpstop to hold the dust boot up like stock struts. I don't know if you can peel the dust boot off the washer or not. I suppose as a last resort, you can grab the shaft very low, just above the housing (unsnap it from the housing and slide the dust boot UP) with a pair of Vise-Grips. Like I said, the steel really is so hard you are not going to damage it with a pair of Vise-Grips. Wrap a piece of electrician tape (or cheese cloth or rubber something or other ???) around the shaft and then clamp on the Vise-Grips. If you think it is bad to have a damage allen socket, I had to deal with one that had the top 1/4" of the shaft broken off! I have no idea how somebody could break the tip of the Bilstein shaft off. I used air tools so it did not slow me down. Good luck! Lowell
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2002 19:22:17 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein rear shocks --> trouble found Sounds like air tools is the ticket. :) Thanks! Jeremy Lucas 95 M3