E36M3 #2608

Tuesday, September 17, 2002 06:33:34

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#1. Subject: Re: Which suspension to buy - from Mo Karamat
#2. 235/40/18 S03s - from Juan Bruce
#3. RE: Bumpstops Missing? - from Bob Stommel
#4. M3 retrofit parts ?s - from eevans@planetc.com
#5. Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from Geof McLaughlin
#6. Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from NickG
#7. RE: Bumpstops Missing? - from Mike Frank
#8. RE: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from Matt Malfa
#9. Ack! Erratic Water Temp Gauge - from Peter Guagenti
#10. Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from John Van Houten

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#1. Subject: Re: Which suspension to buy - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:10:35 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Subject: Re: Which suspension to buy -------------------- 5 -------------------- on 9/16/02 9:13 AM, Pilewan23@aol.com wrote: > Hello M3 owners I'm looking at replacing at least the struts/shocks with > either Koni or Bilstein. What is the preferred shock. Just worried about the > Koni reliability. > Ajay Ajay, Good Question! I was asking the same thing a few months ago.. I liked the ride of the koni's, so I went with them. I also bought the Eibach's springs. This combination is stiffer than stock, but by no means jarring. I am very happy with it. I also believe that Koni's have a lifetime warranty, and can be rebuilt if you have issues with them. (If this is untrue, someone please correct me) Another data point. Good Luck! Mo

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#2. 235/40/18 S03s - from Juan Bruce
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 17:12:37 -0700 From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> Subject: 235/40/18 S03s I know this is a rather odd question but has anyone tried squeezing 235/40/18 S03s on 18x8.5 et38 wheels under the fenders of their M3? I've run 235/40/18 MXX3s and S02s with the rear fenders rolled and had no problems however I've heard that the S03s tend to run wider than the S02's. The spec page on the Tire Rack's web site lists the following: S03 S02 Section width: 9.7 9.3 Tread width: 8.5 9.2 The MXX3s were wider still than the S02s but I don't have the old specs for comparison. Alternatively I have been kicking around the idea of running Toyo's. Some of the World Challenge guys are really impressed with them and they are offering a free 500 mile trial. They even have them in the hard to find 245/35/18 size. Although I don't know if they will offer the same level of performance on the track as the S03s or S02s. Before you ask why I am worried about the on track performance of my street tires on 18 inch wheels let me explain. I could be running R compounds on another set of 17s but I'm not racing this car and running 2.6 deg of negative camber means that driving my street tires on the track makes for almost perfectly equal wear across the tire. Juan Bruce BMW CCA GGC '95 M3 with almost bald 235/40/18 S02s on BBS RCs '85 M635CSi In need of a track car so I can stop worrying about the performance of the tires on my street car. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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#3. RE: Bumpstops Missing? - from Bob Stommel
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 19:56:22 -0500 From: Bob Stommel <rstommel@iquest.net> Subject: RE: Bumpstops Missing? Mike: For Konis, cut one inch off the TOP of the OEM bump stop (not the bottom -- that's where the dust boot attaches). One inch should be somewhere around the first ridge groove from the top of the bump stop. Cut at the deepest part of the groove. If you want to get exotic, you can get custom sizes of bump stops to fit Konis from Truechoice (http://www.truechoice.com/), but you won't be able to use the dust boot. HTH, Bob Stommel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:28:54 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: Bumpstops Missing? Does anyone else out there with the Koni/H&R Setup NOT run bumpstops in the front? When switching from Sports to DTM springs recently I "think" I remember not having bumpstops in the front. I know I have trimmed bumpstops in the rear, but don't remember any in the front. Is removal part of the recommended procedure when installing? I can't remember because it's been a few years. I spoke with Roland from H&R when installing so I did whatever he recommended at the time. I think I could possibly use a small bumpstop (for street driving) due to the H&R DTM springs being so damn short in the front. Thanks, Mike Frank

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#4. M3 retrofit parts ?s - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 21:37:50 -0400 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: M3 retrofit parts ?s Hi, Can anyone verify that my '95 M3 keyless entry OEM module will work on a '99 E36 M3? Same question re: the 6 disc CD changer currently in the '95? Also is there any reason why I can't put the staggered wheels from the '99 on my '95? I currently have the JC chip and intake setup in the '95, I know I can't swap chips, but what about intake? What's the going rate for the JC chip/program tool for OBD ll cars? TIA Evan

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#5. Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:05:43 -0400 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s At 08:43 PM 9/16/02 -0500, eevans@planetc.com wrote: >Can anyone verify that my '95 M3 keyless entry OEM module will work on a >'99 E36 M3? No idea. >Same question re: the 6 disc CD changer currently in the '95? Won't work...6-disc CD changers for 96+ are different. > Also is there any reason why I can't put the staggered wheels from the > '99 on my '95? No, that's fine. >I currently have the JC chip and intake setup in the '95, I know I can't >swap chips, but what about intake? No problem. >What's the going rate for the JC chip/program tool for OBD ll cars? $349 from Turner Motorsport.

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#6. Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from NickG
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:32:13 -0400 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s > I currently have the JC chip and intake setup in the '95, I know > I can't swap chips, but what about intake? The intake will physically fit, but there will be an opening on it (about 1" round hole) that will remain open. This is for the thermostatic sensor on the '95, which the '96+ cars don't have. Nick

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#7. RE: Bumpstops Missing? - from Mike Frank
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:16:35 -0500 From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> Subject: RE: Bumpstops Missing? Bob, Are you talking about the rears? I've done what you mentioned for the rears, but I'm wondering about the fronts. I don't recall any dust boots on the front. Can't imagine they would work well on a strut. Am I losing my mind? Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Stommel [mailto:rstommel@iquest.net] > Sent: Monday, September 16, 2002 7:56 PM > To: e36m3@bmw-m.net > Cc: mfrank28@comcast.net > Subject: RE: Bumpstops Missing? > > > Mike: > > For Konis, cut one inch off the TOP of the OEM bump stop (not > the bottom -- > that's where the dust boot attaches). One inch should be > somewhere around > the first ridge groove from the top of the bump stop. Cut at > the deepest > part of the groove. > > If you want to get exotic, you can get custom sizes of bump > stops to fit > Konis from Truechoice (http://www.truechoice.com/), but you > won't be able > to use the dust boot. > > HTH, > Bob Stommel > > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 15:28:54 -0500 > From: Mike Frank <mfrank28@comcast.net> > Subject: Bumpstops Missing? > > Does anyone else out there with the Koni/H&R Setup NOT run > bumpstops in the front? When switching from Sports to DTM > springs recently I "think" I remember not having bumpstops in > the front. I know I have trimmed bumpstops in the rear, but > don't remember any in the front. Is removal part of the > recommended procedure when installing? I can't remember > because it's been a few years. I spoke with Roland from H&R > when installing so I did whatever he recommended at the time. > I think I could possibly use a small bumpstop (for street > driving) due to the H&R DTM springs being so damn short in the front. > > Thanks, > > Mike Frank > >

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#8. RE: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from Matt Malfa
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 00:03:18 -0400 From: "Matt Malfa" <matt@shortshifter.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s Actually, 10/95-12/95 M3s are wired to take the same Alpine I-Bus unit as MY96+ M3s. However, if we are talking about the Pioneer, then you are correct that Evan is SOL. - -Matt -----Original Message----- From: Geof McLaughlin [mailto:gfmiiilist@attbi.com] >Same question re: the 6 disc CD changer currently in the '95? Won't work...6-disc CD changers for 96+ are different.

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#9. Ack! Erratic Water Temp Gauge - from Peter Guagenti
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Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2002 22:05:36 -0700 From: Peter Guagenti <peter@guagenti.com> Subject: Ack! Erratic Water Temp Gauge Thanks to everyone who replied on my control arm question. But, just as I fix one problem, another gremlin surfaces... My water temp gauge (in the factory cluster) is giving me erratic readings. One minute it will read low, the next minute it will read dead center, then it will pogo back and forth. These aren't really gradual movements that would make it seem my thermostat is off -- it takes more like 2-3 seconds to go from one state to the next. There is no extra delay in warm-up time, it just only makes it to a hair's breath shy of dead center. My oil temps have remained constant through all of this -- about where they should be for the ambient temp and driving conditions. Any advice on what it may be? Should I be looking at the sender? The thermostat? Something in the instrument cluster? Any help would be appreciated. -peterg

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#10. Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s - from John Van Houten
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 06:27:09 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvh_lists@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 retrofit parts ?s >Can anyone verify that my '95 M3 keyless entry OEM module will work on a >'99 E36 M3? Not sure about the 99s, but the BMW factory alarm from my 95 pluged right into my 97 without difficulty. John

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