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#1. Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 18:39:00 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! I dont know...He says: 'my 97 will be stripped and turned back to stock for sale'. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; 45-50K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Reid Conti" <reid@conti.net> To: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Cc: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! > lease return? > > - reid > On Tuesday, Sep 17, 2002, at 14:42 US/Pacific, Paul Elliott wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:46:15 -0400 > > From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> > > Subject: TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! > > > > Ahmad, > > > >>> So, my 97 will be stripped and turned back to stock for sale. Here > >>> is what > > needs to go!!!<< > > > > These parts add up to just over $1000. This is such a relatively > > little > > amount that I would think you could recoup most of it in your sale > > price, > > especially if you consider the time and effort thats going to be > > required to > > remove and replace it all! I would think there's easily 5-7 hrs of > > labor > > just to R&R these parts. At the going dealer rate around here of > > about 90 > > bucks, About half your sale price will be taken by labor charges. I > > dont > > know. If it were me, Id probably be more than willing to say to Mr car > > buyer, Look, I'll be glad to split the cost of these parts with you in > > the > > sale price. Hed be nuts to pass them up, for where else is he going > > to get > > these for this price! > > > > Paul Elliott > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > '99 White M3; 45-50K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank > > pulley: > > 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; > > Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, > > Excelon, > > JLAudio > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > > List Commands > > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > > > To issue a command/request to the server: > > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > > ************************************************************* > > > > > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] H&R coilovers - from Jeff A
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 17:46:35 -0500 From: "Jeff A" <aabel@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] H&R coilovers Kit, Just as an FYI, the 525s that I'm running are a specific GC custom wound spring from Eibach (if you recall, we exchanged posts on bimmerforums). They offer more travel than H&R race springs (515lb) as well as Eibach 'off the shelf' 500's that GC carries, and have a slight 'football shape'. Springs are cheap, I think 55 each. You may just want to call Jay at GC and get a set. Jeff Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 13:29:15 -0400 From: "kitwetzler@mindspring.com" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: H&R coilovers I just replaced my rear H&R coilover springs with Eibach ERS 2.5" ID 450 lbs/in 7" springs. Very nice! I think they raised the car 1/4" or so, I gotta fix that, but other than that, the car rides very nicely. It's stiffer over small stuff but much better over big stuff and the turn-in is amazing! feels great. I am gonna try to put 400s up front and go up to 525s in the rear. Anyone have a set of 525s they'd want to trade for 450s? (Eibach 2.5" 7" springs) thanks! -kit -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************
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#3. TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:20:01 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> Subject: TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! >>I know I wouldn't be very interested in an M3 with "go-fast" parts << To me, this is just a ridiculous prejudice that some people have. Buy a car, invest in thousands of dollars for go fast parts, and sell the car a year later after putting 15K miles on the parts. Why thats a jeopardy for anybody just never ceases to amaze me. Are these parts so damn fragile that normal use over a year's time is enough to render them useless? Thats the way youre talking. Cant Koni Shocks, Big brakes, Superchargers, etc, etc, withstand a year's worth of non track use? If they cant, shame on anybody who buys them new or not. But, assuming you should be able to get at least 50k to 100K miles , or possibly well more, on many performance upgrades, I just dont understand the 'logic' thats says that go fast parts decrease the value of the car, or are worth less than nothing, etc, etc. I think its just a stupid myth, and dumb predudice, not backed up with evidence. Paul Elliott --------------------------------------------------------- '99 White M3; 45-50K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio
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#4. Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! - from Rex Tener
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:22:54 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! At 06:12 PM 9/17/2002 -0500, Paul Elliott wrote: >I just dont understand the 'logic' thats says that go fast parts decrease the >value of the car, or are worth less than nothing, etc, etc. I think its >just a stupid myth, and dumb predudice, not backed up with evidence. Hi Paul, I think the reason people like stock cars, is so they can personalize them the way they *want* to. So, for me, that is one reason I want to buy stock cars. I see the same thing with houses. I bought a pretty much completely stock 50 year old house and have been making the changes that I want too! I just drywalled the garage over Labor Day weekend. :-) -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com 1996 BMW M3, SCCA SFR Solo II Street-Mod #173
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#5. Re: Towing E36 with an X5 - Brake Control Box experience - from Dan Snyder
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:34:22 -0400 From: "Dan Snyder" <m3ltw@msn.com> Subject: Re: Towing E36 with an X5 - Brake Control Box experience > From: Nick <nbartelt@comcast.net> > Subject: E36M3 Help!!! Towing E36 with an X5 - Brake Control Box experience > needed!!! > > Help!!! Towing with an X5 - Brake Control Box experience needed!!! > > Need to hook up a electric trailer brake control box in my X5. > Can't find anyone who has done one. > Trying to get this done ASAP!!! > > If you have any experience, please call or email. > > Thanks, > Nick > nbart@comcast.net > 615-202-1236 - cell You'd think BMW would make this one easy, but they don't. Dealers won't do this for you (that I know of, at least), but they should be able to get you the tech bulletin on wiring a brake controller. (I can't find mine) There is a specific connector you can order to tap into the brake light circuit (part number is on the bulletin), but it isn't required as a GOOD shop can tap into this manually. BUT, beware since most of the wiring is NOT straightforward they could potentially screw up something and cost you quite a bit. The shop that installed my controller (and another friend's) was Adams Enterprises in McHenry, IL. It took them about 3 hours to do it (down from 5 hrs the first time they did it), as there is no pre-wiring for a brake controller, and they did a very nice job. Dan
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#6. WTB: front bumper cover - from Scott Smith
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:57:30 -0700 From: Scott Smith <scott@gelatinous.com> Subject: WTB: front bumper cover I may be interested in purchasing a front bumper cover for an E36M3. Preferably white, preferably in the San Francisco bay area. Please email me (scott@gelatinous.com) offline with details. Thanks! Scott
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#7. Anyone happen to have access to a CarFax account? - from Geof McLaughlin
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:34:58 -0400 From: Geof McLaughlin <gfmiiilist@attbi.com> Subject: Anyone happen to have access to a CarFax account? I am buying a 1995 M3 drivetrain and want to make sure that the seller's account of mileage jives with the vehicle history. Can anyone run a CarFax report for me on VIN #WBSBF9328SEH05560 and send it to me at gfmiiilist@attbi.com? Thanks. Geof
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#8. Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! - from Ed Yee
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 21:50:51 -0400 From: "Ed Yee" <edyee@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! Paul, Nobody is implying that the "go fast" parts wear out. The implication is that the rest of the car is subjected to accelerated wear and tear because the car is driven harder (tracked) or that the stock parts of the car are not up to the increased stress of mounting the new parts. For example, installing stiffer sway bars can cause excess stress on the the sway bar mounting tabs. I've read that they can tear (Turner sells reinforcement plates that get welded in). Super/turbo-chargers increase cylinder pressures, increase potential of detonation, and can cause accelerated wear of the clutch, the guibo, the differential and of course the tires;-) Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:20:01 -0400 > From: "Paul Elliott" <elliott.paul@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! > > >>I know I wouldn't be very > interested in an M3 with "go-fast" parts << > > To me, this is just a ridiculous prejudice that some people have. Buy a > car, invest in thousands of dollars for go fast parts, and sell the car a > year later after putting 15K miles on the parts. Why thats a jeopardy for > anybody just never ceases to amaze me. Are these parts so damn fragile that > normal use over a year's time is enough to render them useless? Thats the > way youre talking. Cant Koni Shocks, Big brakes, Superchargers, etc, etc, > withstand a year's worth of non track use? If they cant, shame on anybody > who buys them new or not. But, assuming you should be able to get at least > 50k to 100K miles , or possibly well more, on many performance upgrades, I > just dont understand the 'logic' thats says that go fast parts decrease the > value of the car, or are worth less than nothing, etc, etc. I think its > just a stupid myth, and dumb predudice, not backed up with evidence. > > Paul Elliott > --------------------------------------------------------- > '99 White M3; 45-50K miles; Dinan stage II SC kit with 6" RMS crank pulley: > 11 psi; AA Aquamist Water/Methanol Injection; Fikse FM-10s; X-Brace; > Dinan Koni Suspension; Stygar SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, > JLAudio > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! - from DocWyte
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 19:22:01 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! I just bought a '95 M3, and I specifically got one that was in stock condition. I did so for the following reasons: Most modified cars are driven hard and put away wet. I might not want the modifications that are on the car. The modifications may have been installed improperly and cause more problems down the road. The last one is particularly true of stereo systems and alarms. If you get a one armed retard stereo/alarm installer hacking up your wiring harness you'll have strange electrical issues up the wazoo... -josh --- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 16:22:54 -0700 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies > for SALE!!! > > At 06:12 PM 9/17/2002 -0500, Paul Elliott wrote: > >I just dont understand the 'logic' thats says that > go fast parts decrease the > >value of the car, or are worth less than nothing, > etc, etc. I think its > >just a stupid myth, and dumb predudice, not backed > up with evidence. > > Hi Paul, > > I think the reason people like stock cars, is so > they can personalize them > the way they *want* to. So, for me, that is one > reason I want to buy stock > cars. I see the same thing with houses. I bought a > pretty much completely > stock 50 year old house and have been making the > changes that I want > too! I just drywalled the garage over Labor Day > weekend. :-) > > -- > Rex Tener > rex_tener@yahoo.com > 1996 BMW M3, SCCA SFR Solo II Street-Mod #173 > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! News - Today's headlines http://news.yahoo.com
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#10. RE: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! - from Mel Silva
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Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 22:34:58 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] TONS of M3 Aftermarket Goodies for SALE!!! I'm going to jump in here and throw my cup of gasoline on the fire only because I have experience in this issue. I have mentioned several times on this list that I sold my open track car, Pepe ('88 Mustang) to buy the my M3, Penny. You might consider that this was a very specialized vehicle that I sold to a very small niche market (Namely within the Norcal Shelby Club from which all the research for which parts to combine originated). I doubt very seriously that anyone that had not seen this car stomp all over red-group and running with the pack in blue group (groups in Norcal SAAC are Yellow [novice], red, blue, green [full tilt, tube frame, retired race cars, etc]) could appreciate how well sorted this car was. Plus it was still street legal (if I put the cats back on after the track event). I also knew that I didn't want to sell the car to an 18-20 yr old just because he could afford it because I wanted Pepe (Le Pew, black with twin white stripes, get it?) to go to good home not get wrapped around a tree somewhere off Hwy 9. It took me 6 months to sell my car because a) I didn't budge (much) on the price and b) I was selective about who I would let buy the car. The bottom line here is that any modified car can be sold (or bought) if the right market is sought (jeeze I sound like my marketing prof in college ;P). Although it needs to be treated more like a pet adoption than a car sale. I would love to have most of the parts Ahmad is selling and if he needs the cash now for some other reason than what I am attempting to address, so be it. But, I also think that he can sell the car to the right buyer with the modifications in tact and get MORE MONEY for the deal. There's a little salesman in everyone, you just have to know where to find it and be enthusiastic about what you are selling, right? I think that mailing lists like this and websites like Roadfly are a good place to start while Autorader is not. I probably came across preachy, obtuse and arrogant, but that was not my intent, On another unrelated note, I took a flight out of Houston early this morning. I always park my M3 on the 3rd floor of the garage (easy to remember, eh?). Anyway when I left this morning the garage was mostly empty but, when I came home this evening, I had an M5 parked on one side of me and a sporty looking 740i on the other side. It was a cute moment that nobody else was there to share with so I thought I would blast it out into cyberspace. Cheers, Mel ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Except for the fact that aftermarket goodies (in my experience) will generally scare away many potential buyers. I know I wouldn't be very interested in an M3 with "go-fast" parts unless I knew the owner, or was looking for an "extra" M3 to turn into a track-only car. I wouldn't be able to help myself from thinking "aftermarket stuff equals abused car."