E36M3 #2651

Wednesday, October 02, 2002 16:30:47

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Bill P
#2. RE: [E36M3] Insurance - from Mel Silva
#3. RE: [E36M3] JTD Aluminum Undertray panel - from Mel Silva
#4. Koni Mileage - from twisty M3
#5. Re: [E36M3] Insurance - from Reid Conti
#6. Re: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Jason Knight
#7. RE: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Mel Silva
#8. best way to mount and wire an infinity basslink in an M3/4 - from Petro, John D (CORP)
#9. JTD Aluminum Undertray panel - from Steve Walsh
#10. RE: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Mel Silva

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#1. 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Bill P
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:55:49 -0400 From: "Bill P" <billpanop@suscom.net> Subject: 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever My car in a ERT Supercharged (6 psi) 1995 E-36 M3. I have just started noticing some oil on the garage floor. It is coming from the left (drivers) side of the motor. I looked under the car and it was pretty greasy. I used degreaser and cleaned it up pretty good and changed the oil/filter while under the car. I drove the car around and it drives and picks up GREAT. No problems when driving the car other then a burning oil smell mostly after you get on it (but not always, maybe 75% of the time). I don't see any blue smoke coming out the exhaust pipe. I do see some white smoke coming out the exhaust when shifting at redline ( I guess it is running a bit rich). After driving for about 1600 miles on the new oil/filter change (PA to Atlanta and back). I checked the car again. The oil was again under the car (clear like new) on the left (drivers) side. Covering the sway bar and the suspension. Oil was present on the wheel as well. I checked and saw that the car was 1 3/4 quarts low. I cleaned it up added oil and parked the car. After a few days the oil was on the garage floor again. Not much but enough. It seems that the oil is coming for above the oil pan, but not sure. It looks like it may be spaying when the motor is under load (again not sure). What could this be? Cracked Oil pan (car is low and has bottomed out before)? Oil pan gasket? Cracked head or blown head gasket (no overheating issues)? Lose or cracked hose? The next problem is the other day I tried to get something out of the back seat and when I pulled up on the lever on the drivers side seat (Vader style manual seat) I felt a snap or break and now the seat will not tilt forward. The lever just goes up/down with no spring loading feel. Did the spring break or come loose? How do you fix this and what part number form BMW will be needed? Thank You Bill P

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#2. RE: [E36M3] Insurance - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:07:24 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Insurance For that matter, in most cities doesn't getting to work qualify as "#2 demonstration of driving skills..." :P Mel Wouldn't a "lapping day" fall under part of #2: "An activity that challenges the speed or handling characteristics of a vehicle...or demonstrates driving skills..."? Jim Bassett - not an insurance agent :-) 1998 M3/4 - retired from the track, full coverage for the street 1992 325is #44 KP - only carries liability ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#3. RE: [E36M3] JTD Aluminum Undertray panel - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:18:40 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] JTD Aluminum Undertray panel I was wondering about this... When I bought my sedan the undertray was missing and the pork chops where pretty much toast. So, I bought all new pieces, including the fender liners. When I finally crawled in there it install everything, I could not get the stupid undertray to fit. This piece marked "51.71-8 156 259" (or 209 can' make it out clearly) had to be removed before the undertray would fit, but it doesn't look like a clean install, because of the screw locations for the piece I removed. Anyone with the ETK care to comment on the description for this part number? I could take some pictures if anyone is interested in solving this mystery with me. Thanks, Mel -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:50 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] JTD Aluminum Undertray panel Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 11:47:49 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] JTD Aluminum Undertray panel At 09:30 AM 10/2/02, alex.fadeev@verizon.com wrote: >AFAIK the JTD shield is only certified to work on 2 and 4-door E36M3s. Pretty correct. It was initially designed on Jim Powell's Sedan IIRC, but it's primary use is for replacing the Coupe's undertray. Remember, the M3 Sedans & Coupes have different undertrays. The Coupe undertray is unique, whereas the Sedan's is the same as non-M E36s (shorter/smaller, less prone to damage and departing the vehicle at high speeds :-)). >Testing and if necessary trimming the fit to make it work on E36 non-M3 is >a pet project of mine since I'm tired of swapping pork chops on my wife's >328i. My completely un-scientific expectation is that it'll fit with minimal trimming. The pork chops appear to be the same on all E36's - at least they look the same on my M3 Sedan & 325is Coupe. I haven't checked the ETK to confirm the same part numbers, however. >Alas, life and work are temporarily getting in the way of this project Hate it when that happens :-) Cheers, Jim Bassett ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#4. Koni Mileage - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:21:28 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Koni Mileage Any one have experience with the life expectancy of Koni SAs for an E36M3? These may end up on a street-only car with stock springs. Thanks, Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Insurance - from Reid Conti
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:24:53 -0700 From: Reid Conti <reid@conti.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Insurance If insurance companies want to exclude driving schools, that is their choice. We can debate all year the merits/drawbacks to this decision. However, I am VERY amused by the fact that they SPECIFICALLY exclude improving your driving skills on a closed course. So, driver's schools, even skidpad exercises.. I guess it's better that we improve or challenge our skills on the street instead! The safest possible thing to do would be a non-timed autocross -- low speed, nothing to hit, closed course, not even racing against the clock. And it's excluded. Hah. Well, time for y'all to dump USAA.. - reid On Wednesday, Oct 2, 2002, at 11:33 US/Pacific, Patrick Dargan wrote: > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 14:18:33 -0400 > From: "Patrick Dargan" <darg01@earthlink.net> > Subject: Insurance > > > > Definitions for exclusions in my policy (USAA) have been changed to > read: > > "...Driving contest or challenge includes, but is not limited to: > > 1- A competition against other people, vehicles, or time or > > 2- An activity that challenges the speed or handling characteristics > of a > vehicle or improves or demonstrates driving skills, provided the > activity > occurs on a track or course that is closed from non-participants..." > > Well, sounds like that specifically means Driving Schools, > Autocrosses, Car > Control Clinics, etc. > > They are specifically excluding activities that improve driving > skills. Go > figure. > > I wonder about lapping days? > > > > > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Jason Knight
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:26:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever With respect to leaking oil, there is dye that can be put in the oil to determine from which point the leak is coming from. My mechanic has the stuff, not sure where a do it yourselfer could buy it. With respect to the seat back cable, below is from a previous request of the same nature: Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:30:31 -0500 From: Tobin Finley <tfinley@fdt.net> Subject: Re: Broken Seat Don't despair. This is one of the easier fixes on our M3s. I've done it twice so far. What happens is that the bowden cable that actuates the release of the tilt mechanism breaks. A new bowden cable should cost you about $20 from the dealer. First raise your seat to the highest possible level. Release the upper lever from the seat back panel by inserting a screwdriver in the opening and pulling on it. Next remove the headrest. To remove the seat back panel you will need a Torx nut set (I forget which size). The screws are on the bottom. Then carefully lift off the panel, and marvel at the real leather covering. Now your cable is exposed and you can see where the upper and lower connections are. The lower one is a bit tricky because it has a circlip on it. Once you've removed the old cable, simply thread the new one through the frame and use a pair of needle-nose pliers to reconnect the ends under tension. Reattach all hardware and you're done. Instant gratification. Jason ? Cracked Oil pan (car is low and > has bottomed out > before)? Oil pan gasket? Cracked head or blown head > gasket (no overheating > issues)? Lose or cracked hose? > > The next problem is the other day I tried to get > something out of the back > seat and when I pulled up on the lever on the > drivers side seat (Vader style > manual seat) I felt a snap or break and now the seat > will not tilt forward. > The lever just goes up/down with no spring loading > feel. Did the spring > break or come loose? How do you fix this and what > part number form BMW will > be needed? > > Thank You > > Bill P > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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#7. RE: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:31:04 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever Bill, Is there an oil line (supply and/or return) going to the supercharger? I'm assuming that the supercharger is on the intake (drivers) side of the car. Mel -----Original Message----- From: Bill P [mailto:billpanop@suscom.net] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:55:49 -0400 From: "Bill P" <billpanop@suscom.net> Subject: 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever My car in a ERT Supercharged (6 psi) 1995 E-36 M3. I have just started noticing some oil on the garage floor. It is coming from the left (drivers) side of the motor. I looked under the car and it was pretty greasy. I used degreaser and cleaned it up pretty good and changed the oil/filter while under the car. I drove the car around and it drives and picks up GREAT. No problems when driving the car other then a burning oil smell mostly after you get on it (but not always, maybe 75% of the time). I don't see any blue smoke coming out the exhaust pipe. I do see some white smoke coming out the exhaust when shifting at redline ( I guess it is running a bit rich). After driving for about 1600 miles on the new oil/filter change (PA to Atlanta and back). I checked the car again. The oil was again under the car (clear like new) on the left (drivers) side. Covering the sway bar and the suspension. Oil was present on the wheel as well. I checked and saw that the car was 1 3/4 quarts low. I cleaned it up added oil and parked the car. After a few days the oil was on the garage floor again. Not much but enough. It seems that the oil is coming for above the oil pan, but not sure. It looks like it may be spaying when the motor is under load (again not sure). What could this be? Cracked Oil pan (car is low and has bottomed out before)? Oil pan gasket? Cracked head or blown head gasket (no overheating issues)? Lose or cracked hose? The next problem is the other day I tried to get something out of the back seat and when I pulled up on the lever on the drivers side seat (Vader style manual seat) I felt a snap or break and now the seat will not tilt forward. The lever just goes up/down with no spring loading feel. Did the spring break or come loose? How do you fix this and what part number form BMW will be needed? Thank You Bill P ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#8. best way to mount and wire an infinity basslink in an M3/4 - from Petro, John D (CORP)
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 16:38:54 -0400 From: "Petro, John D (CORP)" <John.Petro@Corporate.GE.com> Subject: best way to mount and wire an infinity basslink in an M3/4 Friends: thanks to fellow lister Vince T., I have an infinity basslink on its way. Can anyone advise on the best way to wire it into a stock (non-HK) stereo--- splice it into + and - on one, two or four speakers? I've heard and read in the archives that only one is necessary, but are two or four better from an input level/match or output standpoint? Also, does anyone have the code key for the colored wires in the harness? I know to wire up a dedicated hot (off the battery) and ground for it rather than tap into the factory harness, so I'm just looking for the colors of the four sets of speaker leads. Finally, has anyone bolted the basslink to the back of the rear seat (non-fold down) rather than the trunk floor? I'd rather not drill into the floor if I can avoid it, and the usual mounting spot (rearmost left corner) is no good for me. Any advice, experience, etc. would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance. John

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#9. JTD Aluminum Undertray panel - from Steve Walsh
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Date: Wed, 02 Oct 2002 13:58:41 -0700 From: Steve Walsh <stevewalsh@earthlink.net> Subject: JTD Aluminum Undertray panel The JT Design underpanel kinda fits a 325. I have one on mine, and I've had it for more than 2 years. But recently it turned itself into a BIG airdam when air got between it, and the lower bumper edge. Now maybe it's the way I had it fastened, but I fixed it big time !! I hadn't drilled the lower bumper edge for the front-most 2 attachment points, 'cause they don't match the 325's contours. Now I have. I used an electric nibbler to modify the underpanel shape to better match the 325 contour and also put nutserts into the frame rails, and extended down 2 supporting strips to take the weight off the fender liners (cause thats where mine always broke). It's not going anywhere now.

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#10. RE: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 15:58:13 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever With regard to the oil dye, it is pretty inexpensive and is available for the A/C system as well. The expensive part is the UV light so you can see the coloring of the dye. A regular black light might work, but I have never tried it. Most mechanics use this stuff regularly to diagnose these leaky problems. Its easy, it works and it reduces the amount of time diagnosing a problem so you can get to the repair bit where they make their money. Mel -----Original Message----- From: Jason Knight [mailto:knight2244@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 3:30 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2002 13:26:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 1995 M3 Oil Leak And Broken Seat Lever With respect to leaking oil, there is dye that can be put in the oil to determine from which point the leak is coming from. My mechanic has the stuff, not sure where a do it yourselfer could buy it.

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