E36M3 #2654

Thursday, October 03, 2002 14:31:20

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Tire Rack - from Doug Wirth
#2. Re: SMG and the M3 - from Jeff Thompson
#3. RE: [E36M3] M3 SMG the only option? - from Dorffer, Rich
#4. Re: M3 SMG the only option? - from Burgess, Kim L
#5. YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from Jim Bassett
#6. World Challenge - from Ward, Chris
#7. Re: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from Andrej Dolenc
#8. RE: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from Birkhead, Rob
#9. Re: [E36M3] Ordering parts and stuff from Demon Tweeks in UK - from Rob Verenna
#10. Re: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from DocWyte

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Tire Rack - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 10:56:07 -0700 From: Doug Wirth <DWirth@serena.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Tire Rack I just wanted to see if anyone has a BMW friendly rep at Tire Rack. Thanks Doug Wirth *********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. ***********************************************************************

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#2. Re: SMG and the M3 - from Jeff Thompson
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 14:15:25 -0400 From: Jeff Thompson <jthompson@telco.com> Subject: Re: SMG and the M3 Several people have posted interesting things on the pros and cons of the SMG, but the one that struck me was the one about certifying different engine and transmission combinations. Has anybody thought about the fact that the engine and transmission are _the same_ in the "SMG" M3? Just a bunch of actuator crap hung off a 6 speed ZF box (so it really is a electronically controlled conventional tranny, not sequential). At first I couldn't figure out why anybody would want to do that, but I wonder if the certification powers-that-be would consider that another "combination". The right way to make a manual and SMG option would be to design a true _Sequential_ Manual Gearbox. Then your only options would be whether you want a to clutch and move the lever yourself, or whether you want paddle shifters. If you want paddles it's 3 actuators, some connectors and a different ECU image. I guess it was easier/cheaper to adapt the tranny they had. bummer. -Jeff

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#3. RE: [E36M3] M3 SMG the only option? - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:11:26 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 SMG the only option? Rex says > > They also do this so they don't have to write off as much of a loss on > those engines, gotta' keep those earnings up. They did the same thing with > all the Nikasil V8 engines they replaced in the mid '90's. Yep, Brett also noted this as a prior example of this 'accounting treatment'. :-) Later, Rich

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#4. Re: M3 SMG the only option? - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:20:00 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Re: M3 SMG the only option? This all leads me to wonder what the double-clutchin' non-syncro guys said when transmission syncros were introduced!!! KLBurgess w/left pedal, center pedal, and right pedal w/cable actuation

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#5. YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:29:40 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) OK, it's finally time to replace the stock struts & shocks on the M3 - for those of you keeping score, that's nearly 120K miles. And I'm starting to notice them now :-) So, I'm planning on going with Koni SAs, since I want to get as close to a stock ride as possible and want to keep the stock springs & UUC Swaybars. Archived posts seemed to indicate that this was a good set up. My question is related to RSMs. I've got what I think are E46 RSMs on the M3 now (they were whatever was on the race car; I swapped the JTD ones into the race car). Will these work with the Koni's? I'm not planning on doing a whole lot of adjusting; since the car is strictly a daily-driver now, I plan to "set & forget" :-) (And thanks to those that responded to Twisty's post on the life of Koni's - he asked on my behalf as I'm planning on buying his used set. :-)) Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - finally a bit wallowy 1992 325is #44 KP - stiff, very stiff

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#6. World Challenge - from Ward, Chris
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:36:13 -0400 From: "Ward, Chris" <CWard@ContractLumber.com> Subject: World Challenge Just received the new Roundel and they had a piece about PTG racing in the World Challenge series next year with Bill Auberlen and Boris Said driving E46 M3's. I guess that means the M3GTR is officially retired from competition. Chris Ward 95 M3

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#7. Re: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:41:19 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) (GASP), great, another suspension post... *laugh* Koni SA's will work just fine with stock and JTD RSM's (I have the JTD's). The only issue that I know of is that the Koni DA's top shaft is thicker than the stock one, so the RSM's need to be tweaked to make 'em work. SA's - no problem. The rears are pretty much bolt'n'go, the fronts are cut'n'gut as you know. As far as getting as close to stock as possible, that was my goal as well (the rest of my suspension is still bone stock). I think mine are at about 1/2 turn from full soft in both the front and rear. At 120k, you'll notice a HUGE difference once you put on the Koni's. I did at 80k. If you haven't done the RTB's, good time to do those as well. Mine were pretty crispy when we pulled 'em out. Andrej '97 M3 Jim Bassett writes: > OK, it's finally time to replace the stock struts & shocks on the M3 - for > those of you keeping score, that's nearly 120K miles. And I'm starting to > notice them now :-) > So, I'm planning on going with Koni SAs, since I want to get as close to a > stock ride as possible and want to keep the stock springs & UUC Swaybars. > Archived posts seemed to indicate that this was a good set up. > My question is related to RSMs. I've got what I think are E46 RSMs on the > M3 now (they were whatever was on the race car; I swapped the JTD ones into > the race car). Will these work with the Koni's? I'm not planning on doing a > whole lot of adjusting; since the car is strictly a daily-driver now, I > plan to "set & forget" :-) > (And thanks to those that responded to Twisty's post on the life of Koni's > - he asked on my behalf as I'm planning on buying his used set. :-)) > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 - finally a bit wallowy > 1992 325is #44 KP - stiff, very stiff

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#8. RE: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from Birkhead, Rob
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 11:35:40 -0700 From: "Birkhead, Rob" <rbirkhead@bb.directv.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) The e46 RSMs fit with the Konis no problem. Since they are fairly similar in design with the e36 ones (just beefier) it is a non-issue. I have run them with Koni DA and H&R Bilstiens. You will be really surprised at what a difference they make. I am positive your shocks have been gone for a long, long time...;) Rob 95 M3 <-just stiff enough -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jimbassett@attbi.com] Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2002 11:30 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:29:40 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> Subject: YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) OK, it's finally time to replace the stock struts & shocks on the M3 - for those of you keeping score, that's nearly 120K miles. And I'm starting to notice them now :-) So, I'm planning on going with Koni SAs, since I want to get as close to a stock ride as possible and want to keep the stock springs & UUC Swaybars. Archived posts seemed to indicate that this was a good set up. My question is related to RSMs. I've got what I think are E46 RSMs on the M3 now (they were whatever was on the race car; I swapped the JTD ones into the race car). Will these work with the Koni's? I'm not planning on doing a whole lot of adjusting; since the car is strictly a daily-driver now, I plan to "set & forget" :-) (And thanks to those that responded to Twisty's post on the life of Koni's - he asked on my behalf as I'm planning on buying his used set. :-)) Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - finally a bit wallowy 1992 325is #44 KP - stiff, very stiff ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. *************************************************************

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Ordering parts and stuff from Demon Tweeks in UK - from Rob Verenna
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 14:40:00 -0400 From: Rob Verenna <rob@willraceforbeer.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Ordering parts and stuff from Demon Tweeks in UK Mike- I haven't ordered directly from them, although Shane K. has and will probably chime in or contact you directly. I ordered through Jack Money at ElephantMotorsports, a fellow club racer and enthusiast - great guy to deal with, even if he does drive an E30 M3. :) Jack was just about the same price (I assume he's set up as a distributor) and I didn't have to deal with any of the issues of the trans-atlantic sale, the stuff just showed up at the shop. It was drop shipped directly from DemonTweeks and I think most/all came USPS, even the seats. Jack also gives a 10% club racer discount. So, given the negligible price difference and for the convenience of dealing with a US business and a fellow club racer to boot, I recommend giving Jack a chance (www.elephantmotorsports.com). - rob Michael Turgeon <turgeon1@yahoo.com> wrote: >Has anyone ordered equipment from Demon Tweeks in the >UK? > >If so, how was the stuff shipped and were there any >customs charges? > >Further, did the exchange rate make up for the >shipping costs? > >Reply in private unless the information is helpful for >others. =================================================================== EASY and FREE access to your email anywhere: http://Mailreader.com/ ===================================================================

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#10. Re: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) - from DocWyte
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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2002 12:22:45 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) If you're going to get the single adjustable koni's I highly recommend getting the TC Kline externally adjustable rears. That way you can adjust the shocks from inside the trunk, rather than having to pull the shocks off the car. If you do get those, you'll need the TC Kline rear shock mounts, as the shock shaft is much larger and you'd have to drill out the E36/46 stock rear mounts... -josh --- Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2002 11:29:40 -0700 > From: Jim Bassett <jimbassett@attbi.com> > Subject: YASP - Yet Another Suspension Post :-) > > OK, it's finally time to replace the stock struts & > shocks on the M3 - for > those of you keeping score, that's nearly 120K > miles. And I'm starting to > notice them now :-) > > So, I'm planning on going with Koni SAs, since I > want to get as close to a > stock ride as possible and want to keep the stock > springs & UUC Swaybars. > Archived posts seemed to indicate that this was a > good set up. > > My question is related to RSMs. I've got what I > think are E46 RSMs on the > M3 now (they were whatever was on the race car; I > swapped the JTD ones into > the race car). Will these work with the Koni's? I'm > not planning on doing a > whole lot of adjusting; since the car is strictly a > daily-driver now, I > plan to "set & forget" :-) > > (And thanks to those that responded to Twisty's post > on the life of Koni's > - he asked on my behalf as I'm planning on buying > his used set. :-)) > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 - finally a bit wallowy > 1992 325is #44 KP - stiff, very stiff > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com

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