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#1. Re: [E36M3] As the Rotor Turns.... - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:30:16 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] As the Rotor Turns.... Officially, BMW says you can't turn M rotors, but it your just cleaning off the surface you won't hurt anything. Steve D at Ultimate Garage did a set for me that had really bad pad build upon them and they are just fine. Just don't decided that you'll bead blast your rotors clean. You'll have little silica particles imbedded in your rotor and they will never be the same. Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Riley, Scott" <sriley@cardinalcapital.com I have 2 pairs of "previously used" Euro rotors in my garage for my '95 M3. Both pairs have less than 1k miles on them. As I was trying different racing pads (Pagid, Hawk, etc.), I purchased new rotors each time to make it an accurate comparison. Now, that I've settled on Hawk Blues, I want to use these other rotors as backups at the track for club racing. I thought that it would be a good idea to turn them ever so slightly to freshen them up. I am aware that there is a min. thickness, but I am no where near it at this point. First question, does this sound like a good plan? I know, for example, that MB does NOT recommend turning rotors, at least not on my wife's CLK. Secondly, where is a good place to have this done? The last time I turned a rotor was in shop class back in high school.
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#2. Re: [E36M3] As the Rotor Turns.... - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:36:42 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] As the Rotor Turns.... M rotors are balanced which is part of the reason why, also the thinner the rotor the less heat capacity it has. Jeremy Lucas 95 M3, with turned Euro rotors for street use ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Kelley" <d.kelley@usa.net> > I don't know what kind of driving you do, but I have turned stock M3 > rotors and used them on the track with both Hawk HP+ and Hawk > Blues with no problems. I can't see any scientific reason that turning > them would be a problems as long as you are above minimum > thickness and I have a degree in Metallurgical Engineering! > > Dave Kelley >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re:JV versus Par Intake - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 19:37:48 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re:JV versus Par Intake Thanks for the opinions guys, I went with the JC intake... -josh --- "Roger W. Graves" <rogracer@earthlink.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2002 19:44:45 -0400 > From: "Roger W. Graves" <rogracer@earthlink.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Re:JV versus Par Intake > > On 10/9/02 6:20 PM, "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 11:55:19 -0700 (PDT) > > From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> > > Subject: JC intake vs PAR intake > > > > Ok, > > > > Here's the deal. I have the chance to pick up a > used > > JC euro hfm intake setup locally. However, my > friend > > Pete makes the PAR intake setup, which I've heard > is > > pretty nice and very similar to the ECIS setup. > > > > Price difference between the two is $150. Is it > worth > > the extra cash to get the JC intake? Both have > heat > > shields, etc. > > > > -josh > > > > ===== > > Josh Wyte > > Momentum Motorsports > > 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST > > Tough call. I have the JC intake and have seen the > PAR set-up. If the used > JC set-up is in good shape, I think I'd spend the > extra. The PAR set-up > appears to be a good value, but the shield in the JC > set-up is better > fitting and I think the ITG filter is superior to > the K&N knock-off in the > PAR. > > Just IMO. > Roger > > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you > from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the > list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the > requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as > the > subject of the message to the email address > e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > > ===== Josh Wyte Momentum Motorsports 508-833-3024 After 5 pm EST __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Intermittent airbag light - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:42:31 -0500 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittent airbag light It's not that uncommon. According to my local independent shop (Bimmerhaus), it's usually caused by a problem in one of the front seat belt latches, which are supposed to "tell" the SRS system whether the belt is fastened. Sometimes there's actually nothing wrong; when you carry passengers in the rear seat, they can kick the wiring harness and cause a spurious fault. Whatever the cause, once the fault is encountered, the light will keep coming on until the SRS fault is cleared from the computer. A shop can read the code from the body computer and tell you where the fault may be. I was shlepping kids in a carpool last winter, and my light came on as you've described. I had the shop clear the fault, and I made sure the more "energetic" child didn't sit behind my seat, and the light never came back on. - Alain ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 4:40 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittent airbag light > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 05:42:25 -0400 > From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Intermittent airbag light > > Mine has always done this at start up as long as I've owned it. > > Jeremy Lucas > 95 M3 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Juan Bruce" <jbrucebmw@hotmail.com> > > I'm having an intermittent airbag light on my M3. It typically comes on > at > start up and stays on until a few minutes into my drive and does not > come on > again until I restart. Does anyone have any ideas about how to track > this > down?
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Re: JC intake vs PAR intake - from Jeremy Warfield
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:19:09 -0400 From: "Jeremy Warfield" <jww95@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: JC intake vs PAR intake Rob, I'm not quite sure where these remarks came from, but the original post questioned the differences between some no-name intake setup (par?) and JC's. Anyway, I had a few comments below.... Rob wrote: >>> sorry that we agree to disagree on this. I have just dyno tested both the ECIS and the JC intakes, and the JC won by a substantial margin. Care to share the details of the comparison? Data plots, test conditions, test equipment, etc? >>> I don't boubt that on some cars both might make similar *peak* numbers, but I am sure that the area under the curve will be much better with the JC. I seem to recall a head to head test of the two intakes by the late Boston Performance Group that would beg to differ, so if someone has a stored version of the page, please post up. >>> Either way, we are talking about expensive BMW Motorsport cars here, who wouldn't want to spend a few bucks more for the nicer product? Well by this logic, the engineers of the expensive BMW M cars would have designed an intake that would far surpass any aftermarket solutions in terms of form and functionality. that's all, Jeremy- '95 m3 (ECIS Euro Intake and a whole lot more)
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#6. Re: [E36M3] A032R Chunked - from Joe Dyer
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 20:49:28 -0700 From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@attbi.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] A032R Chunked Underinflated! The wear is mostly on the shoulder which means you were rolling them over. Joe ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Foos" <David.Foos@prairiecomm.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 3:10 PM Subject: [E36M3] A032R Chunked > Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 14:44:41 -0500 > From: David Foos <David.Foos@prairiecomm.com> > Subject: A032R Chunked > > Hi All, > > I'm new to the list although I've been around the 'club' for a while. > (Note: this was also x-posted to the UUCDigest) > > During the Motor City School this weekend at Grattan, I corded my Left-Front > A032R tire (turn 1). The set was brand new, with the exception of being heat > cycled and 'scrubbed-in' one evening at Gingerman. I was a bit surprised by > the way the tire separated into evenly spaced sections, approximately 2x2" > in size. Has anyone ever seen this before (see link below)? > > http://my.core.com/~mfoos/bad_tire.jpg > > I'm still running stock camber, and I know I need to add some additional > camber for the track. How much should I be shooting for? I'm guessing around > -3 deg. > > -Dave > 95 M3 > > BTW: The MC school this weekend was great fun! Thanks to anyone who was > involved in its preparation/operation. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >
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#7. EvoSport Underdrive Pulley Install - from Chris Teague
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:04:20 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: EvoSport Underdrive Pulley Install I ordered a set of underdrive pulley's to be installed since I have a leaky radiator that needs to be replaced. But they pulley's won't be here for 2 weeks, and I need to install the radiator soon. Anyone know if it is possible to replace the pulley's with the radiator in place? If it matters, I probably won't reinstall the clutched fan, so that may make it easier. Chris 97 M3/4
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#8. Re: [E36M3] EvoSport Underdrive Pulley Install - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 21:24:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] EvoSport Underdrive Pulley Install Yeah, not a problem. Chester --- Chris Teague <cteague@cox.net> wrote: > Anyone know if it is possible to replace the pulley's > with the radiator in place? If it matters, I probably > won't reinstall the clutched fan, so that may make > it easier. ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
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#9. Another case of suspension noise - from Johnny Lee
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Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2002 00:33:26 -0400 From: Johnny Lee <mclee@comcast.net> Subject: Another case of suspension noise I changed the RSM on my car about a month ago (Ground Control) myself and everything seemed fine. Car drove normally but after a week I start to notice noise coming from the back of the car. It doesn't happen all the time, only when I go through minor bumps at slower speed, and it doesn't even happen all the time either. The noise is similar to a wire hanger vibrating. fearing that I did something wrong, I took my car to the mechanic and they suspected that the rear shocks had gone south. So I replaced the rear shock (stock) and the wire hanger noise is gone. However a new noise occurs when I go through the situation. It is not as ugly as before and it only happens on the right rear of the car. Like a small "thump" when I go through bumps at slower speed. Again, it doesn't happen all the time and absolutely no nice when I am doing highway speed when I hit expansion joints, minor speed bumps, cracks on the road, etc. I am puzzled but I want to check to see anyone on the list have any ideas before I take it back to the mechanic for further diagnostics. Could the stiffer RSM have made some problems to manifest earlier? I do think that if I revert back to stock RSM the noise could possibly go away. But I think that is more like masking a problem instead of solving it... Thanks in advance, Johnny 1998 M3/4
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: JC intake vs PAR intake - from Rob
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Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2002 23:15:45 -0600 From: "Rob" <speedmaster@telus.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: JC intake vs PAR intake Hello Listers, I must say that I regret jumping on the original thread. I should have been sensitive and remembered from previous years that this group is very passionate about intake discussions! I have no interest in trying to sway anyone towards any of the systems from JC, ECIS, Dinan, PAR, etc. and really don't have the energy to argue back and forth about it. I have owned, driven and tested many of them and I prefer the JC systems for my own personal cars. I will answer a couple of questions below, but otherwise prefer to stay out of the discussion. Sorry for prying open the can of worms :) > >>> I don't boubt that on some cars both might make similar *peak* numbers, > but I am sure that the area under the curve will be much better with the JC. > > I seem to recall a head to head test of the two intakes by the late Boston > Performance Group that would beg to differ, so if someone has a stored > version of the page, please post up. ****Yes I too recall that test, and both systems made very similar numbers. > >>> Either way, we are talking about expensive BMW Motorsport cars here, who > wouldn't want to spend a few bucks more for the nicer product? > > Well by this logic, the engineers of the expensive BMW M cars would have > designed an intake that would far surpass any aftermarket solutions in terms > of form and functionality. ***Not in my book of logic. If cost had no bearing on the final direction of marketed products, we probably would have seen the "Euro" M3 engines in North America. Also, mfg's such as BMW have concerns other that outright power when building an air intake system. Noise level, ease of maintenace, and filter life to name a few. Regards, Rob